No you're not....I am one of the MK1 TT gurus and continue to spend a lot of time supporting that car. The MK 2 TT went largely ignored by the serious MK 1 guys Even though it's a better car...It was just a FAIL stylistically. The TTS is nice, but too late to the game with this driveline combo, too expensive, and (based on Audi's track record) will be far to costly to maintain down the road.....

Mod, you don't know anything about Audis...lol

Yea thats right! JK!


Even tho I used you for alot of advice in those forums and bought your stuff too. I still have your modshack intake sitting in my garage. I agree the MK2 is a better car than the MK1 but I actually like the looks better than the MK1 too, but thats just me. The kid that got my MK1 has basically killed the car within a year of owning it. What a waste.

Exactly! No arguments here! Cars nowadays are getting so much better that pricing on cars like the TT RS is almost unjustifiable. Creature comforts and luxurious features are to be found on the TT RS... but is that all to price it, as it is?

LOL...Yeah....55,000 posts on the Audi forums...I'm just a Post Ho!

LOL thats a joke right?

Not at all! The original (before the addition of the spoiler) was the best. Silver. Lovely looking thing. Audi has lost its mind. Now, it's too aggressive with too many angular folds.

Don't even get him started.

I heard those 2004.5's were FLAWLESS...and cheap too!

Mod...you had to go there.

uh ohs!!

Guys the Zed was only .5 secs behind the ttrs and given they only got 5.9 secs to 100km/h for the Zed, I think they probably could've squeezed out a bit more form the Zed. The MOST BASIC of TT's in australia cost approx 70,000 and that is for a 4 cylinder. 70,000 is the price for a Zed with virtually all the fruit in australia. Now for very little if any performance gains from the TT RS you are paying approx double what the Zed is worth. I prefer the looks of the Zed hands down, performance is really on par, interior is good too. What is it with people going on about Audi interiors, i have sat in a tt, good but please take a pill, it's not heart stopping. All in all the Audi is just way too overpriced for what you are getting. Someone else here said 'Mafia prices"

BTW, the "fit" of panels etc on Japanese cars is second to none. I wish all these people who go on about the fit of German cars would suddenly become objective.

Ok, just go to a Nissan dealership and see the MSRP price on the car window.

P.S. I too know people at Motorambar, people who actually make the orders to the factory and have a spreadsheet with the dealership price (invoice?) and MSRP of every 2009 370Z model that is offered on PR . A close Family member used to be the one that placed the orders. Document is dated 7/31/09
370Z Base MT DNP 35,061 / MSRP 37,500
370 NISMO DNP 47,000 / MSRP 50,550

That's what I was thinking initially but the Z should be around 5-5.2 sec for 0-60 and to get to 62mph maybe 5.3???

Plus, they got a 4.5s with the Audi???


I think they just effed up the 0-60 run and didn't bother to redo it.....

isn't the audi a 4 banger 2.0? how can you compare it to a v6 3.7.?

Its...turbocharged?

Something's not right with the 370Z's 0-60 time of 5.9 seconds. All the magazines' I've read have gotten the Z to 60mph in the range of 4.6-5.2 seconds but almost a full second with these amateurs??? Either they're not pushing the car hard enough or they don't know how to drive.

I can tell you this....the new TT is hands down much better then the orig TT. I have a 2002 here parked in my garage! I hate driving it cause it's just a VW with an award winning body!
The new TT actually doesn't look like a chick's car and uses the Audi parts bin. Now I've only driven the VR6 models because they have always been lower maintenance then the turbos. My wife's is a 1.8T has been flashed with some suspension mods and wheels and tires. She loves her car!! I feel it suits her...being a chick.
I've noticed that the folks who talk crap about the TT probably haven't owned it(or even driven it). That's the only real way to do a comparison. Drive them back to back and you'll understand! Also everyone keeps ignoring all the features the TT has that the Z doesn't have! I've notice that the Z is extremely flexy even though I've stiffened up the susp. The stock TT is three times as stiff (0 body flex). I miss all the room I had in the TT compared to the Z (6'3" 230 lbs).
I think the TT styling is better (classy) then the Z. The Z just screams "all business" in the looks department!
And 0-60 times are really not that important when so many cars on the street are within a second of us. I'll never understand the penis size thing!
Now if they import the TTRS and I have an opportunity to purchase through work....hmm...it's all about the dollar. Even though business didn't slow down like I expected! ;)

the TT-RS has a inline 5 with a single turbo.

Your point?

The one bad thing I have heard about the TTS was some turbo lag with it being a 4 cyl with a K04 turbo (somewhat large). I wonder if having the extra cyl (and Im sure the TT RS is still using a K04) stops some of that lag. If it comes to the US and I had the money I would think hard about it. But I will never have the $$$ for a $60K to $70K car.

Now Nisaan put a SC or turbo in the Z, give it DSG and AWD and now your talkin. Love the body of the 370Z best of all so far from Nissan.

^^^ that was his point, Kevr :)

The TTS is a 4 cyl but the TT RS is a 5 cyl. Both use a K04 turbo I think.

nice..took the audi tt's third and highest performer to beat out the z :/
their v10 R8 is still slower than a base GT-R..IMO audi doesnt do that well when it comes to producing performance...the m3 has similar performance to their regular r8..when it comes to German automobiles, Id consider a Porsche or BMW (in the performance aspect)

I dont think they are really trying to make super fast cars just high quality comfortable sports cars that are quick and lux.

No, shaba', that's hardcore economic reality down at Puerto Rico, U.S.A.! That's why I keep telling youse guys to consider yourselves blessed for living in the continental U.S. Our politician$, with few exception$ are douchebag$ that provide the least public services (our roads are like the lunar surface!), but simultaneously impose heavy taxation on us. It's a dead-end street OR migrating to the Mainland. Cheers, and may God bless all of you in 2010, dudes!
(BTW, I placed the Agent Provocateurs on ignore, AK!)

And you have the torsional stiffness measurements of both cars? From what I have read the Zed is very stiff, so i don't know wehat angle you are coming from?

I can perk that thing up for you, but your Wife may (or may not) need it. I've been designing and building a small group of performance parts for the TT for 8-9 years now.......All my really good car buddies still own TT's....:tup:

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your intakes sure are different looking than when I bought one for my MKI. Looks better now.

How can you compare two cars with one costing twice as much as the other?

The only winning aspect of the Z is it's price and reliability. The TTRS has all the rest IMO

Totally agreed. I also looked briefly at the Cayman as well as the TT, and found what you said to be very true - Cars like the Z are just a much better value for the dollar. When you factor in Audi reliability, the TT and the TT RS were just not competitive. I also couldn't get comfortable in the TT.

Interestingly, the only car that I felt was even close to the Z in terms of smiles per dollar was the Mazda MX-5. They can get pricey when you option them out, but even at $28k, it's a hell of a driver's car, despite what others may think.

PM me pricing! I was trying to decide what to do for her! She wants the dual exhaust (w/ 3.2 valence). That would work nicely also!