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danegrey 12-12-2017 03:05 PM

370Z still considered a Japanese Muscle Car
 
still made the list, just gave me a smile for the day

https://www.autobytel.com/car-buying...MwMDY4Njc2MwS2

enjoy

ayrton88 12-12-2017 04:56 PM

Kind of an insult to all these cars if you ask me. I always considered a muscle car as extremely limited. Fast in a straight line and that's it. In fact, I would consider the muscle car the opposite of a sports car.

gsx95 12-12-2017 05:26 PM

It seems like the definition of "muscle car" as used by the author of that article (and everyone else these days) is different from what it used to mean. Modern American muscle cars can handle really well now...in fact, they are some of the best handling "bang for the buck" vehicles around today. Only the older cars from the 60s and 70s handled poorly. So I'll take the compliment happily!

Zingston 12-12-2017 06:09 PM

"That's a cool amount of power for what is still a cool car"

Yeah baby, that's my Z!!! :rofl2:

yaoxiao4 12-12-2017 07:13 PM

only true muscle car now days are challengers/chargers, big, heavy and great in a straight line

vtec to vvel 12-12-2017 09:37 PM

I don’t know if I would consider my Z a muscle car. I don’t even think they consider the GTR a muscle car, but rather a performance machine.

Shultzie 12-13-2017 06:07 AM

What's up with the four doors being included in this list?:eek:
I understand our Z's shouldn't be included in there either because I consider a 2 seater a sports car. Geez these young writers today. :rofl2:

2011 Nismo#91 12-13-2017 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Shultzie (Post 3714701)
What's up with the four doors being included in this list?:eek:
I understand our Z's shouldn't be included in there either because I consider a 2 seater a sports car. Geez these young writers today. :rofl2:

Mustang, Camaro, and Corvette are the original American muscle cars.
Yeah that's just because there is only 2 other car's from Japan that meet the muscle car specs (RWD, 2Door, Front Engine, "cheap"). Unless you change what the definition of a muscle car the 370z will always be a Japanese muscle car.

ayrton88 12-13-2017 09:52 AM

I don't know. When I hear the term muscle car I get visions of Vin Diesel yanking on a shifter....in a car that is probably an automatic. I consider the Z a sports car and that's it. Is a Ferrari an Italian muscle car?

Shultzie 12-13-2017 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91 (Post 3714744)
Mustang, Camaro, and Corvette are the original American muscle cars.
Yeah that's just because there is only 2 other car's from Japan that meet the muscle car specs (RWD, 2Door, Front Engine, "cheap"). Unless you change what the definition of a muscle car the 370z will always be a Japanese muscle car.

I consider the Corvette a sports car. I feel you are right on the Mustang and Camaro, but shouldn't you include Nova's, Old Charger's, Challenger's,Chevelle's,Fairlane's,GTO's,Super Bee's, Road Runner's,etc. etc.
The list is quite long actually. :stirthepot: :happydance:

s2krazyyy 12-14-2017 02:05 AM

I feel like the Z has kind of a big burley rugged feel to it(at least for its size) and thats why it gets put in the category of "Japanese muscle car". It has some muscle car qualities while having the handling of a Japanese sports car.

Zoren 370 12-14-2017 11:29 PM

Hmm..considering the average height of a Japanese is around 5'5"
Maybe I'll agree the 370 Z is good enough for a muscle car to a Japanese perspective. But not in any way the American muscle description.

Hell, They even call the GTR as Godzilla. A Japanese version of an American icon King Kong.

JARblue 12-15-2017 03:44 AM

I need some more muscle ... looks like I should get a Civic or a Maxima :wtf2:

alcheng 12-15-2017 04:33 PM

the title of the article is "Japanese Muscle Car", so it's about Japanese production cars, and the writer already explain how they define the difference between Japanese muscle cars and American muscle cars...

so why do you guys throw in all those opinions about American muscle cars??


:confused::confused:


but.... I am little :wtf2: when seeing a Maxima is on the list.....

UNKNOWN_370 12-16-2017 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ayrton88 (Post 3714777)
I don't know. When I hear the term muscle car I get visions of Vin Diesel yanking on a shifter....in a car that is probably an automatic. I consider the Z a sports car and that's it. Is a Ferrari an Italian muscle car?

The v12 versions are kinda sorta

Zoren 370 12-16-2017 09:41 AM

:iagree:

Most V8 10 and 12.

Larso1 12-16-2017 11:35 AM

Seems like the Nissan Skyline series should be on the muscle car list too. They didn't import them to the US back then (produced up to about 2002 I believe) but they had up to 500hp. They are starting to import them used to the US now. They bring big bucks

Zoren 370 12-16-2017 11:57 AM

Right hand drive. Lots of documentation needed but yes you can buy one in the US. Ravmotorsports I believe imports them. You contact Bear.

mikeb 12-17-2017 06:21 AM

A first gen base Camaro came with a I6, a relatively "weak" engine. Buyers could muscle up with a variety of V8s. Needless to say several other cars of the era offered the same muscle options. Handling was not the focus. A Vette by comparison tend to only offer a performance engine and did focus on the sport. The line blurry today, but the 370 is sport

UNKNOWN_370 12-20-2017 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeb (Post 3715527)
A first gen base Camaro came with a I6, a relatively "weak" engine. Buyers could muscle up with a variety of V8s. Needless to say several other cars of the era offered the same muscle options. Handling was not the focus. A Vette by comparison tend to only offer a performance engine and did focus on the sport. The line blurry today, but the 370 is sport

True that... Ive had my camaro 2.5 months now... Im kinda shocked and awed now that im used to its size how i can pretty much toss it around like my Z and it holds up great as a sports car. Its main weak point are those Eagle F1 tires by goodyear. Considering the price, they are a severely subpar tire. Lines definitely blurred. Still prefer a sports car size like the Z, generally speaking.

Zoren 370 12-20-2017 07:01 PM

Unknown what model Camaro you have now?

Magic Bus 12-20-2017 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3716404)
True that... Ive had my camaro 2.5 months now... Im kinda shocked and awed now that im used to its size how i can pretty much toss it around like my Z and it holds up great as a sports car. Its main weak point are those Eagle F1 tires by goodyear. Considering the price, they are a severely subpar tire. Lines definitely blurred. Still prefer a sports car size like the Z, generally speaking.

Unknown, I totally get what you're saying. I have recently let go of my 13, 6mt sport Z after several months of overlap with the new M2. As mentioned in my review between the 2 awhile back, the M2 is the better car. However I do plan on getting another nimble 2 seat car (as a 2nd car) in 3-4, years for that smaller sports car size feel. A Cayman, if Nissan doesn't come out with a good Z35 would foot the bill. I'm starting to get old, so let's not f*** around Nissan!


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