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AK370Z 12-21-2009 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sascuderi (Post 336320)
Thanks for all the input. Its going to be very hard to decide what to do.

When I have a car, especially a new one, I like to drive it everyday! I would get down and frustrated if I had to just look at my new Z all winter sitting in my garage. I'd go nuts!! Plus in NJ the last thing you want is to have to pay insurance on two cars, one of which sits unused all winter.

I do apprecite all your input. This seems to be a very active board (even more that the Maxima.org where I usually lurk!), so if I do get my Z I will be sure to return!

Thanks again

Where in South Jersey are you? I drove around ALL south jersey in snow today.. Z drives like a dream on the snow with Blizzaks. :tup:

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I seriously am considering getting rid of my Z because of how horrible it drove in the snow. Not even a small amount of snow is drivable. Today I'm going to look at Nissan Versas. If I'm gonna keep the Z...only time will tell.

Is it possible to transfer the car and the payments over to someone else easily? I'm looking for potential buyers.
I'm assuming you have summer tires. They are absolutely horrible. EVEN me (with years of RWD experience) spun out my brand new Z with 300 miles last year on Route 322. Yup, 8pm at night with a busy two way traffic I spun my Z 180 degrees. This year I put some thinner winter rims/ tires and wishing for more snow :tup:

shadow2k 12-21-2009 08:11 PM

I drive my Taurus on crappy weather days, and the aftermath of the salt on the roads.

Out of all the great reasons to have a 2nd car in my case, #1 comes down to this. People are stupid. If they're going to smash into one of my cars because they think 4wd makes them invincible, I'll be driving my Taurus. It's happened before, and I'm sure it will happen again.

I drive my Z when it's dry, and the salt has been washed away. I'm driving it today, but I'll be in the Taurus tomorrow with the threat of freezing rain/snow.

It makes me appreciate the Z even more to have to drive my Taurus now and then.

kannibul 12-21-2009 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 336316)
How do you know I even need GAP insurance? Maybe I own my car outright or made a decent down payment. Let me worry about me.

It's pretty easy to assume that if you're bitching about parking or renting storage and how much that costs, then you are more than likely making a payment...then consider depreciation, even with a large payment, and well, let's face it, insurance companies don't like to pay out...it's against their business model. If you wiped out a bare-base model Z, you'd count yourself lucky if they paid $22K...

That and you don't have a 2nd vehicle, and can't see the logic in protecting your investment by getting some much more suitable for winter driving on a number of levels.

No offense, of course. Also, I, along with others are just offering advice. If you don't want advice you don't want to hear, don't ask for it.... :)

Zeto 12-21-2009 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 336307)
say what? u sure it wasnt salvaged? over here an a4 2001 costs at least 6-10000 depending on condition and mileage. 1500 would get you exactly what i mentioned above: a pos rustbucket with the engine blowing smoke, sagging suspension, leaking dampers, bald worn out tires, brake pads worn all the way to the rivets, floorpan falling off, windshield cracked, headlights weak, wipers unoperational

I got it off Craigslist from this chick who lost her license due to 3 DUI's. It was actually in pretty decent condition. I checked the car fax. Just needed new brakes. And it drives like a dream and I'm beating the crap out of it everyday lol! Things to note it does 140,000 miles, the bumper has some damage and the driver side headlight is weaker. I dont know if it's the ballast or just the bulb. In any case I'm loving it and it loves the snow. And if expensive repairs do happen I'll just buy another one lol!

DooDooBrown 12-23-2009 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 336297)
I wouldn't mind the $1200 subaru option but parking in Chicago costs a premium. I'd have to find a local storage garage but I'm not that motivated and would rather drive my Z with the snow tires.

If you got a Jeep, you could just put in in 4 Low and drive through buildings.....:tup:

kraphy 12-28-2009 08:21 AM

I'm keeping my car...I was really pissed for a couple days after the storm. I'm getting a used VW Passat to get me to and fro. I DD 150 a day. Cars 3 months old with over 10k. That's the reason for considering the Versa....fuel efficient and better than the Z in the snow. hahaha

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 336309)
:bowrofl::roflpuke2::icon18::inoutroflpuke: downgrading all the way down from a z to a versa cuz of a little snow. at least get a wrx or an evo instead. come on man, anything but a versa!


Z eliminator 12-28-2009 09:27 AM

We save our money and buy new 370 parts for the next year. If it is a nice day on Sundays i take it out of the garage and drive it around the city for 15 min, and then put it away, It keeps the baterry charged and helps the tires stay round. It run a lot better in the cold.

370Zsteve 12-28-2009 09:40 AM

It was 50 F and sunny here yesterday. Drove 50 miles, then gave the Z it's first douche. Today I'm gonna wax it while it's in the garage.

OldGuy 12-28-2009 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by sascuderi (Post 333718)
Hello:

I am seriously considering getting the Z as my new car, but concerned about the winter.

I would need to use the Z as my daily driver but noticed they all come stock with summer tires only. Living in the Northeast this could be a problem!

For those in that live in areas that get snow and ice, what do you do? Keep it in the garage until spring? Use snow tires? Replace the stock tires with all season tires? Drive with the stock summer tires and hope for the best?:eekdance:

Mine is grounded unti April. I have an Altima coupe for winter. The Z is just too pretty for salt and cinders and not safe enough in the snow and ice, even with winter tires, due to low clearance and rear wheel drive and the danger of some idiot driving carelessly in the snow and ice and hitting my beatiful new car. Pick up a scuffed up old Civic somewhere for $500 bucks and rest easy and be safe.

OldGuy 12-28-2009 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 336354)
Regarding insurance, you should speak with your insurance company. Most will let you drop coverage on a car while you initiate coverage on another for part of the year. Just be sure to keep comprehensive coverage on whichever car you're not using.

My insurance copverage (except for casualty and theft) is suspended on both my sportscars (Miata since 1996 and Z now, also) from 11/15 through 4/15. Never had a problem doing that.

kannibul 12-28-2009 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by OldGuy (Post 345444)
My insurance copverage (except for casualty and theft) is suspended on both my sportscars (Miata since 1996 and Z now, also) from 11/15 through 4/15. Never had a problem doing that.

Are you financing your Z? If so, how do you suspend coverage on it? Seems the bank would throw a fit and try and repo the car (at least, that's what I've been told)

kannibul 12-28-2009 02:32 PM

We had a "nice" winter storm over the weekend. 8" of snow for us...I ventured out 3 times total since the storm happened Thursday night, twice with our Civic, once with my truck. No work today, they decided to stay closed...FWIW. Yes, we have salt/sand trucks and road clearing equipment....sadly, they do nothing more than a lane of highway and call it good...and even then...

I have to say that I can not imagine someone stupid enough to drive the Z in conditions like what we have here, or anything short of a cleared-to-pavement and dry roadway. Here we have 1-2" of ice formed by compression of vehicles running over the snow and salt/sand and sun melting it just enough to refreeze overnight. What's left is polished in places to near black-ice levels of slickness. On hte roads we have two tracks cutting groves in the ice that make your car do 4-wheel-steering between the channels, so your rotating a bit in both directions (and random left-to right as well) while trying to go straight...

But, with my Civic and my Truck - I don't worry about wrecking 40K worth of Z, or my insurance premiums going up because someone hit me, or the salt/sand eating paint/metal...in fact, I can come home, look in my garage, and see my perfectly clean, happy (though cold) Z sitting there, waiting for me to start her up in a few months.

Anyhow...smart thing to do would be to spend that $1500 for wheels and tires for the Z, and get a second vehicle to drive in the winter...

Pharmacist 12-28-2009 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by OldGuy (Post 345437)
Pick up a scuffed up old Civic somewhere for $500 bucks and rest easy and be safe.

With a 500 dollar car, I guarantee you that you will neither "rest easy" nor "be safe":ugh2:

OldGuy 12-28-2009 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 345695)
Are you financing your Z? If so, how do you suspend coverage on it? Seems the bank would throw a fit and try and repo the car (at least, that's what I've been told)

No. I've always been able to be a cash customer for my cars. I sell my current one myself and walk in to the dealership (or lately the Internet sales guy) with my checkbook in hand and no trade. I wind up getting excellent and simple offers. I realize this is unusual. I can also tailor my insurance coverage strictly to my own needs.

OldGuy 12-28-2009 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 345703)
We had a "nice" winter storm over the weekend. 8" of snow for us...I ventured out 3 times total since the storm happened Thursday night, twice with our Civic, once with my truck. No work today, they decided to stay closed...FWIW. Yes, we have salt/sand trucks and road clearing equipment....sadly, they do nothing more than a lane of highway and call it good...and even then...

I have to say that I can not imagine someone stupid enough to drive the Z in conditions like what we have here, or anything short of a cleared-to-pavement and dry roadway. Here we have 1-2" of ice formed by compression of vehicles running over the snow and salt/sand and sun melting it just enough to refreeze overnight. What's left is polished in places to near black-ice levels of slickness. On hte roads we have two tracks cutting groves in the ice that make your car do 4-wheel-steering between the channels, so your rotating a bit in both directions (and random left-to right as well) while trying to go straight...

But, with my Civic and my Truck - I don't worry about wrecking 40K worth of Z, or my insurance premiums going up because someone hit me, or the salt/sand eating paint/metal...in fact, I can come home, look in my garage, and see my perfectly clean, happy (though cold) Z sitting there, waiting for me to start her up in a few months.

Anyhow...smart thing to do would be to spend that $1500 for wheels and tires for the Z, and get a second vehicle to drive in the winter...

Good advice.

OldGuy 12-28-2009 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 345771)
With a 500 dollar car, I guarantee you that you will neither "rest easy" nor "be safe":ugh2:

Sorry to disagree but I know of a number of them that will only bring $500 to $1,000 that are just a lot of years old, scuffed up a bit, stripped down models and with only maybe 80 or 90 thousand miles on them the dealers don't even want to take in on a trade. They are perfect, with front wheel drive, for typical northern winter days---major storms maybe not but fine to endure the cold and travel safely in few inches of snow, salt and cinders.

spearfish25 12-28-2009 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 345703)
We had a "nice" winter storm over the weekend. 8" of snow for us...I ventured out 3 times total since the storm happened Thursday night, twice with our Civic, once with my truck. No work today, they decided to stay closed...FWIW. Yes, we have salt/sand trucks and road clearing equipment....sadly, they do nothing more than a lane of highway and call it good...and even then...

I have to say that I can not imagine someone stupid enough to drive the Z in conditions like what we have here, or anything short of a cleared-to-pavement and dry roadway. Here we have 1-2" of ice formed by compression of vehicles running over the snow and salt/sand and sun melting it just enough to refreeze overnight. What's left is polished in places to near black-ice levels of slickness. On hte roads we have two tracks cutting groves in the ice that make your car do 4-wheel-steering between the channels, so your rotating a bit in both directions (and random left-to right as well) while trying to go straight...

But, with my Civic and my Truck - I don't worry about wrecking 40K worth of Z, or my insurance premiums going up because someone hit me, or the salt/sand eating paint/metal...in fact, I can come home, look in my garage, and see my perfectly clean, happy (though cold) Z sitting there, waiting for me to start her up in a few months.

Anyhow...smart thing to do would be to spend that $1500 for wheels and tires for the Z, and get a second vehicle to drive in the winter...


If you're concerned about other people causing an accident, then I suppose that's a legitimate reason to find a clunker and potentially protect your Z.

If you're referring to the Z as being unfit to safely drive in snow and ice, I have to strongly disagree. This car with snow tires handles better than any car I've previously owned with all season tires. I come from driving two Audi A4 Quattros and a Landrover Defender 90. The Z with snow tires, without a doubt, accelerates, brakes and corners better in wintery conditions than any of those previous cars. Until you guys have driven a Z with snow tires in those conditions, you just won't understand how well it handles things. I've been nothing but impressed with the winter rubber. AK can attest to this as well.

kannibul 12-28-2009 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by OldGuy (Post 345809)
No. I've always been able to be a cash customer for my cars. I sell my current one myself and walk in to the dealership (or lately the Internet sales guy) with my checkbook in hand and no trade. I wind up getting excellent and simple offers. I realize this is unusual. I can also tailor my insurance coverage strictly to my own needs.

That explains it. I do the same wtih my M/C...

Liability in late fall - early spring. Full coverage during riding season.

My truck is old enough (and I drive it rarely enough) that anything more than liability is a waste of money.

Civic and Z have full coverage with high deductibles and low limits to make it cheaper, due to them both being financed. I'd drop the Z to comp only if I could during these few months.

kannibul 12-28-2009 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 345879)
If you're concerned about other people causing an accident, then I suppose that's a legitimate reason to find a clunker and potentially protect your Z.

If you're referring to the Z as being unfit to safely drive in snow and ice, I have to strongly disagree. This car with snow tires handles better than any car I've previously owned with all season tires. I come from driving two Audi A4 Quattros and a Landrover Defender 90. The Z with snow tires, without a doubt, accelerates, brakes and corners better in wintery conditions than any of those previous cars. Until you guys have driven a Z with snow tires in those conditions, you just won't understand how well it handles things. I've been nothing but impressed with the winter rubber. AK can attest to this as well.

Good luck man, that's all I can say! :) :tiphat:

ricky bobby 12-28-2009 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sascuderi (Post 333718)
Hello:

I am seriously considering getting the Z as my new car, but concerned about the winter.

I would need to use the Z as my daily driver but noticed they all come stock with summer tires only. Living in the Northeast this could be a problem!

For those in that live in areas that get snow and ice, what do you do? Keep it in the garage until spring? Use snow tires? Replace the stock tires with all season tires? Drive with the stock summer tires and hope for the best?:eekdance:

use snow tires if you dont store the Z. Had a versa for a loaner the other day in the snow and a vette with snow tires in the next lane was doing fine

nuTinmuch 12-28-2009 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sascuderi (Post 333718)
Hello:

I am seriously considering getting the Z as my new car, but concerned about the winter.

I would need to use the Z as my daily driver but noticed they all come stock with summer tires only. Living in the Northeast this could be a problem!

For those in that live in areas that get snow and ice, what do you do? Keep it in the garage until spring? Use snow tires? Replace the stock tires with all season tires? Drive with the stock summer tires and hope for the best?:eekdance:

You live in SJ?

Here is my logic:

Seriously, how many times does it snow here that you absolutely cannot drive on the roads? Maybe 2-3 days during a -bad- season that happens once every 6 years or so?

Pretty much if you absolutely cannot take off work then it's a bad idea to get any RWD car, but if you do have a couple of days to throw around (that you will probably not have to use anyway) then go with it.

If not, you could always get an Evo/STi!


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