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felix0121 07-01-2017 04:36 PM

Is Nissan 370Z reliable ??
 
Now hitting 140K miles, once I got a new ECU installed and recently I have suffered from malfunctioning Absolute Pressure Sensor. (The 'service engine soon' light came up, and it became okay after cleaning the throttle body. But this is the second time I had that light for the APS, and my service adviser told me that maybe I'll need to get it changed if it keeps happening again)

My 370Z is 2010 Sport and no tuning applied at all. All parts are the same as OEM, I only changed its OEM tire to Ventus EVO2. I've never been to a track, and I mostly drive very mildly. I always get maintenance at Nissan dealership, and only allow Nissan Genuine parts used.

1. Do other 370Z owners have no problem with their ECU ?

2. Anyone suffered from the Absolute Pressure Sensor ? If yes, then anyone knows what it is for ??

3. Why my APS continues to malfunction? How can I prevent it?

At first when I purchased my Z (2012), I assumed Nissan had high reliability, but now I don't think so. Even though I do my real best for maintenance following Nissan maintenance guide, sometimes I cannot avoid troubles. It seems more serious than just I am unlucky. I purchased my Z as a preowned one as 10K miles used, and at that time its CarMax inspection sheet said it was perfectly no problem.

Yesterday I paid $900 for a steering lock issue. It seems clear that the issue is pretty common to 370Z owners (especially for 2009~2011 year models). But are 370Z owners also suffereing from ECU or APS, too?

How about 370Z's own reliability? Is it reliable?

Car Brands Reliability: How They Stack Up - Consumer Reports

In 2016 Nov, the Consumer Reports said that Nissan's reliability positioned at the lowest among all Japanese car brands.

I don't look down to Nissan or its owners. I still want to remain as a Nissan fan, but actually now I'm worrying about whether I will be able to keep having my Z or not. If it costs too much for repairs then not only it is annoying, but also maybe it would be hard for me to keep it. Until now I also have had to get many other cheap & expensive parts (including a new automatic transmission) changed for repairs, but I cannot list them all here.

Can I stop worrying about my Z? I want to hear others' opinions.

* I forgot to mention that I had a 3rd party audio and two front speakers installed, but I don't think it would affect to other parts' malfunction.

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EZT 07-01-2017 07:12 PM

I have just rolled 120,000 miles myself this week. Different from you, I have modified mine to some extent. In the last 6 years of owning it I have never had a problem that I didn't inadvertently cause myself, by attempting installs in order to save money (which made me spend more money lol). I have only had one SES light and it was an oxygen sensor code that within 2-3 days disappeared and never resurfaced. I change my own oil following the DIY threads on here using Redline Oil, periodically clean my R2C filters, and changed my plugs at 100k.

I did have the steering lock issue fixed when the recall was issued. All in all, I am the second owner as I acquired my car with 11k miles, and I have put 109k on myself with literally zero issues.

I expect someone to chime in on the APS sensor as I do not know. Just my two pennies.

Redglare 07-01-2017 07:15 PM

most people don't have any ECU issues, all the problems you listed just seem unlucky... the 370 is way more reliable compared to other cars in its class/price range.

You want unreliable? check out any WRX or STi, those boxer turbo engines are the definition of ticking time bomb, pick any issue you can think of at random - that subie will have it.

My friends 2015 wrx premium already went through 2 clutches (bone stock) and various drivetrain issues, he is planning to ditch it soon as the warranty runs out.

subaru created an artificial demand by not making enough of their sh1tboxes, everyone seems to just shrug at the reliability of this overpriced car.

I'd never buy a WRX or STi until they take a lesson from honda, toyota or nissan on how to build a reliable engine.

axmea? 07-01-2017 08:19 PM

LOOOLLLLL. Who cares about CR at 140K anyway? Cars are like people. More trips to the doctor as they get older.

felix0121 07-01-2017 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by axmea? (Post 3670323)
LOOOLLLLL. Who cares about CR at 140K anyway? Cars are like people. More trips to the doctor as they get older.

My father has run Lexus and Toyota from 2005~2007 year until now - around 120k miles without any expensive repair. (Only one small repair was about a navigation button - but uncomparable to my Z though..)

It is true that now my 140K is high mileage, but actually I expected far better reliability than what I've experienced from my 370Z (and also to all Japanese cars: at least for three major brands - Toyota, Honda, and Nissan).

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mishuko 07-01-2017 09:02 PM

It's a reliable car. Haven't had any issues and most of my maintenance was preventative

ChopsZ 07-01-2017 09:12 PM

Want to talk reliability?

2013 Fiat 500 Abarth

Bought brand new with only 11 miles on the clock. Traded it in 2 years later with just over 7k miles for the Z.

The Abarth was in the shop less than one week after I got it, and was in the shop for over a week. That doesn't include the other 30 or so times that it was in the shop, sometimes for days, sometimes for a week or two, and once for over a month.

2 different turbos, two complete brake replacements (front and rear, rotors, calipers and pads), both window regulators, trans syncros... Just to name a few.

On the plus side, it looked good, and sounded great! Better exhaust note than even the Z, and I could make it backfire on demand!

Less than 2 years old, less that 8 thousand miles total, and probably in the shop more times than your 2010 Z in its entire life.

http://charlest.zenfolio.com/img/s9/...59934647-4.jpg

srbrubak 07-01-2017 09:19 PM

I guess I will keep my fingers crossed and hope I don't have to many problems with my Z. I do have to admit I only have 32,000 miles on my 2010 sport 6M. I have had too problems but both were fixed under warranty. A MAF went bad at 800 miles and in October 2015 my transmission was replaced (bad synchros). The steering lock unit was fixed under the factory recall.

axmea? 07-01-2017 10:03 PM

Italian cars and reliability. These words cannot be in the same sentence.



Quote:

Originally Posted by ChopsZ (Post 3670343)
Want to talk reliability?

2013 Fiat 500 Abarth

Bought brand new with only 11 miles on the clock. Traded it in 2 years later with just over 7k miles for the Z.

The Abarth was in the shop less than one week after I got it, and was in the shop for over a week. That doesn't include the other 30 or so times that it was in the shop, sometimes for days, sometimes for a week or two, and once for over a month.

2 different turbos, two complete brake replacements (front and rear, rotors, calipers and pads), both window regulators, trans syncros... Just to name a few.

On the plus side, it looked good, and sounded great! Better exhaust note than even the Z, and I could make it backfire on demand!

Less than 2 years old, less that 8 thousand miles total, and probably in the shop more times than your 2010 Z in its entire life.

http://charlest.zenfolio.com/img/s9/...59934647-4.jpg


ChopsZ 07-01-2017 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by axmea? (Post 3670353)
Italian cars and reliability. These words cannot be in the same sentence.

Yeah, but after 50 years and modern technology, you'd think they'd get their $*** straight.

DOOMMONKEY777 07-01-2017 11:09 PM

A lot of small things likesteering lock, suspension bushings, fuel pump, O2 sensors, crank shaft sensors, dirty TB, csc...but no big things like blown engines, Chinese transmission...

felix0121 07-01-2017 11:17 PM

(erased - sorry I made this post for my mistake :D)

markesc 07-02-2017 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Redglare (Post 3670302)
most people don't have any ECU issues, all the problems you listed just seem unlucky... the 370 is way more reliable compared to other cars in its class/price range.

You want unreliable? check out any WRX or STi, those boxer turbo engines are the definition of ticking time bomb, pick any issue you can think of at random - that subie will have it.

My friends 2015 wrx premium already went through 2 clutches (bone stock) and various drivetrain issues, he is planning to ditch it soon as the warranty runs out.

subaru created an artificial demand by not making enough of their sh1tboxes, everyone seems to just shrug at the reliability of this overpriced car.

I'd never buy a WRX or STi until they take a lesson from honda, toyota or nissan on how to build a reliable engine.

Could not agree more!

Stay away from the 06-07 wrx, as it has a taller final drive, so when you put that big turbo on it, plan on 3rd gear grenading itself.

The stock clutch lasted until around 45k miles, then every exedy clutch after that would self destruct. The biggest problem is the five speed design was NEVER meant to have that kind of power placed on it. The throw out bearing design is the worst.

I don't miss a day of owning that tin can on wheels. Cobb made a TON of money catering to the masses that bough into it, and I was one of 'em. However, every single part that went on, needed a new tune to do it reliably.

As a side benefit, you get more attention from dudes than chicks (the Z brings on the ladies, they must think it's a Porsche?), you get pulled over once every 3-6 weeks, the clutch will randomly not fully engage no matter how "smooth" of a driver you think you are.

People cap on how bad the Z handles for some reason, obviously they've never driven an understeering wrx, that when modified, has the worst lift off over steer I've ever experienced, and that's after 3 different alignments, 5 different tire combinations...and that rear "diff"!!! ha!! you think the 370z's rear diff is bad, go drive any wrx.

So basically unless you buy an STi, just don't bother. I've accepted the fact that the 370z is slower from about 70-140mph, but I don't need to slow for turns and feel like I'm going to die in the thing. It's just a BILLION times more confidence inspiring even when stock!

Sorry had to chime in on this one... I have $13k in receipts in a folder somewhere, wrx = gateway drug with not so great results.

markesc 07-02-2017 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by felix0121 (Post 3670327)
My father has run Lexus and Toyota from 2005~2007 year until now - around 120k miles without any expensive repair. (Only one small repair was about a navigation button - but uncomparable to my Z though..)

It is true that now my 140K is high mileage, but actually I expected far better reliability than what I've experienced from my 370Z (and also to all Japanese cars: at least for three major brands - Toyota, Honda, and Nissan).

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Yeap EVERYONE caps on Camrys, but my womans 2005 Camry has 240k miles on it, and still, somehow, keeps going! She's been rear ended two times, and she's still going!

felix0121 07-02-2017 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redglare (Post 3670302)
most people don't have any ECU issues, all the problems you listed just seem unlucky... the 370 is way more reliable compared to other cars in its class/price range.

You want unreliable? check out any WRX or STi, those boxer turbo engines are the definition of ticking time bomb, pick any issue you can think of at random - that subie will have it.

My friends 2015 wrx premium already went through 2 clutches (bone stock) and various drivetrain issues, he is planning to ditch it soon as the warranty runs out.

subaru created an artificial demand by not making enough of their sh1tboxes, everyone seems to just shrug at the reliability of this overpriced car.

I'd never buy a WRX or STi until they take a lesson from honda, toyota or nissan on how to build a reliable engine.

It must be rather better if I was just 'unlucky.'

From now on, I really don't want to suffer from any more breakdowns if I can become luckier.

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mishuko 07-02-2017 11:58 AM

Wtf girls don't flock to my car. Only guys.

Sucks when you get m3/4s porches audis and all other more high end retail stuff and even the frequent super car in the area.

The bright side is this car is relatively more rare than most current production cars

Dreadnaught 07-02-2017 01:52 PM

I think the Z and the VQ37VHR are pretty damn reliable. I had an 06 G35 coupe before my Z and all I did was regular maintenance. I put 110k on it. Didn't baby it, but, didn't abuse it as either.

I'm sure my Z will run like a freakin gladiator as well.

I"m a diesel and line tech for a Ford dealership and I can tell you first hand that the people that take care of there cars don't have that many problems with there cars besides stuff that just wears out over time. Some people think that they just have to keep putting fuel into the car. I don't know how many times I've had to install a new engine all because someone didn't want to change their oil because it's too expensive but they have money for a $900 Iphone but then b1tch about their car being a POS.

I also think since someone has had to have a repair done everyone will have the same issue as well and that the car is unreliable. Besides the dreaded CSC issue, and stering lock issue, the Z overall is reliable.

370zHawaii 07-02-2017 02:32 PM

Listen, at 140k miles I would say HELL YES! I would be happy to squeeze out 100k with no issues. My last Z had close to 88k miles before I said its time to upgrade, and at 88k miles I did not have a single issue. Did all regularly scheduled maintenance ahead of time. And this forum has been a huge contributor to me not having any issues with my Zees.

alcheng 07-02-2017 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChopsZ (Post 3670343)
Want to talk reliability?

2013 Fiat 500 Abarth

Bought brand new with only 11 miles on the clock. Traded it in 2 years later with just over 7k miles for the Z.

The Abarth was in the shop less than one week after I got it, and was in the shop for over a week. That doesn't include the other 30 or so times that it was in the shop, sometimes for days, sometimes for a week or two, and once for over a month.

2 different turbos, two complete brake replacements (front and rear, rotors, calipers and pads), both window regulators, trans syncros... Just to name a few.

On the plus side, it looked good, and sounded great! Better exhaust note than even the Z, and I could make it backfire on demand!

Less than 2 years old, less that 8 thousand miles total, and probably in the shop more times than your 2010 Z in its entire life.

http://charlest.zenfolio.com/img/s9/...59934647-4.jpg


at least you can tell people the Abarth has some Ferrari character in it:

Spend more time on maintenance than driving. :tup:

felix0121 07-02-2017 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370zHawaii (Post 3670504)
Listen, at 140k miles I would say HELL YES! I would be happy to squeeze out 100k with no issues. My last Z had close to 88k miles before I said its time to upgrade, and at 88k miles I did not have a single issue. Did all regularly scheduled maintenance ahead of time. And this forum has been a huge contributor to me not having any issues with my Zees.

Before I had decided to purchase my 370Z, I expected Japanese cars (at least for the three major brands: Toyota, Honda, and Nissan) would go around 200k miles without issues (when getting proper maintenance). I also had suffered from several big and small issues before hitting 100k.

Actually It is true that more expensive repairs happened to me after running 100k miles. But don't you think that 100k miles is too low to be expected as safety mileage for Nissan cars ? I hope Nissan would provide better reliability than that.

Raeshlavik 07-02-2017 11:22 PM

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Just as a point on the topic; not all instances of the same car are the same...

The above is my Abarth; 20k on the clock and I beat it like a rented mule. It's tuned and tweaked to squeeze over 220 horses out of 1.4 liters and I've replaced the tires on it like a dozen times from racing it...

Never, ever had a problem.

Did I get the one in a million good one? Did someone else get the rare lemon? It's always hard to say.

At 140k I'd assume things will start breaking... Just remember that until recently (for us old farts), even getting to 100k on a car was a miracle. :)

Z370Z011 07-02-2017 11:57 PM

Is Nissan 370Z reliable ??
 
Didn't read through much but I can tell you it depends on who you ask. Although as whole, it's probably more reliable than not. But I've been to the dealership for...

-Ecu failed at 10k miles
-Steering lock failure
-CSC failed twice
-Trunk locking mechanism failure
-Some strange thing happens where the cruise control light flashes and kills all cruise control abilities but it happens at random times
- car would bog out after starting up. It was the throttle bodies sticking (maintenance so I guess it wasn't much of a failure? But it happened at around 40k which seems a little soon but what do I know. Anyways let's press on.
-airbag light has a mind of its own, I asume it's the sensor but I'm done fixing ****. Passengers will have to wear helmets or something.

That might be it?
I'm sure the list will continue to grow. 2011 6mt at 70k and all this has happened under 60k miles. I detest this car in a bizarre, loving way. Still, I'm selling it for the same reason.

I'm sure I got a shitty car, but by no means am I saying the 370z line up is bad. Just my personal shitty experience.


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felix0121 07-03-2017 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z370Z011 (Post 3670654)
Didn't read through much but I can tell you it depends on who you ask. Although as whole, it's probably more reliable than not. But I've been to the dealership for...

-Ecu failed at 10k miles
-Steering lock failure
-CSC failed twice
-Trunk locking mechanism failure
-Some strange thing happens where the cruise control light flashes and kills all cruise control abilities but it happens at random times
- car would bog out after starting up. It was the throttle bodies sticking (maintenance so I guess it wasn't much of a failure? But it happened at around 40k which seems a little soon but what do I know. Anyways let's press on.
-airbag light has a mind of its own, I asume it's the sensor but I'm done fixing ****. Passengers will have to wear helmets or something.

That might be it?
I'm sure the list will continue to grow. 2011 6mt at 70k and all this has happened under 60k miles. I detest this car in a bizarre, loving way. Still, I'm selling it for the same reason.

I'm sure I got a shitty car, but by no means am I saying the 370z line up is bad. Just my personal shitty experience.


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Hmm.. It seems somewhat similar to mine.

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Jhill 07-03-2017 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreadnaught (Post 3670491)
I think the Z and the VQ37VHR are pretty damn reliable. I had an 06 G35 coupe before my Z and all I did was regular maintenance. I put 110k on it. Didn't baby it, but, didn't abuse it as either.

I'm sure my Z will run like a freakin gladiator as well.

I"m a diesel and line tech for a Ford dealership and I can tell you first hand that the people that take care of there cars don't have that many problems with there cars besides stuff that just wears out over time. Some people think that they just have to keep putting fuel into the car. I don't know how many times I've had to install a new engine all because someone didn't want to change their oil because it's too expensive but they have money for a $900 Iphone but then b1tch about their car being a POS.

I also think since someone has had to have a repair done everyone will have the same issue as well and that the car is unreliable. Besides the dreaded CSC issue, and stering lock issue, the Z overall is reliable.

I too was a dealer tech for years. First MB then indie vw/Audi, then dealer Acura and finally Chevy before leaving the field and yes taking care of the vehicle goes a long way but there is something to be said for Japanese reliability in general. Every time I do even a basic oil change or sway bar setting change I am so glad to see a bright shiny silver engine without a freaking drop of oil on it which is 100% different than German, although MB isn't that bad but vw/Audi well let's just say it could be better, and I was actually surprised Chevy was better than I thought but still not good and lots of pin fit/ stupid issues, Acura you have one place that will leak on the v6 which is the oil pump to block RTV after like 120k and a simple fix. Was never a Nissan tech but a friend is a master Nissan tech (but now at Acura) and said Nissans are pretty good overall. I would buy again, been happy so far.

Oh and my dad is in his third vq35de (Altima, maxima and new maxima sr) and was a regional sales manager (lots of driving mi) and all were very reliable, sister who isn't the best on taking care of cars is on a 2011 rogue and it too has been good at 67k.

ayrton88 07-03-2017 10:02 AM

I'm an old coot and remember what American cars were like in the '70s. If you got 50K you were extremely lucky and the body would be completely rusted out. Started driving in the '60s and tried all American brands and they were all pieces of crap. I bought a Honda in 1979 and thought I died and went to heaven. Only problem was after 10 years the shock towers were starting to rust. Never had to do anything other than normal maintenance. You could change the oil filter from the top. I swore I would never buy another American car and still won't. I tried a BMW and it was nearly as bad as an American car. Knock wood, my Z has been perfect.

HEK 07-03-2017 12:54 PM

I bought my Z on 2014 a 2013 leftover due to the previous winter here in MA that was horrible therefore no interest in a RWD vehicle. Well now at 33K I can say that I loved putting every single mile even in the Winter as I bought 4 snow tires. So to me this Z is a keeper.....:driving:

JARblue 07-03-2017 01:21 PM

2011 Z with 95K miles here. I pulled ESCL fuse (when new) and replaced CSC with aftermarket solution before failure (@50K). Rear differential bushing failed (@30K); replaced with aftermarket. I've had the headliner (@30K) and the steering rack (@85K) replaced under warranty. Also had thousands in airbag equipment replaced by Nissan under "goodwill coverage".

My father has a 2014 Rogue with over 100K miles on it already and hasn't had any major problems.

That being said, I don't think I'd consider another Nissan other than a Z (or a GT-R).

felix0121 07-04-2017 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3670810)
2011 Z with 95K miles here. I pulled ESCL fuse (when new) and replaced CSC with aftermarket solution before failure (@50K). Rear differential bushing failed (@30K); replaced with aftermarket. I've had the headliner (@30K) and the steering rack (@85K) replaced under warranty. Also had thousands in airbag equipment replaced by Nissan under "goodwill coverage".

My father has a 2014 Rogue with over 100K miles on it already and hasn't had any major problems.

That being said, I don't think I'd consider another Nissan other than a Z (or a GT-R).

I envy your good fortune.

The steering rack (? I don't know what it is though) was covered at 85K, it seems like when the default factory warranty expired. Then did you buy an extended warranty..?? And what do you mean by 'goodwill coverage' ?? (curious) :D

KrnAndy 07-05-2017 03:09 AM

- First week of getting the car steering lock issue. Luckily was able to bang it out of lock, then pull the fuse.

- Trunk latch unable to open on first try. Took out the weight in the hatcback and now unlocks first try. -> added a sport spoiler and does the same thing, nothing major, just an annoyance.

- A month later, Brake Switch failure, causing TB to not fully open, unable to go WOT

- 3 months later, engine blows a rod. (oil was checked a week prior) checked again after rod knock and oil was dry

- 4 months later after the car's engine gets fixed.
clutch pedal goes soft, able to pump it back up meaning CMC is going out not CSC (no signs of leak either)

unable to bleed clutch now, because shop snapped the bleeder valve, now NEEDING to replace the CSC.

out almost 1.5k for a new clutch setup with HD CSC and CMC (with labor)

- couple months later, burning from engine, checked to see that the belt is slipping on a partial spinning AC clutch. (only partially engaging)

- ac stops working, ac compressor/clutch changed for a used one from z1 was told it would work, came unplugged, and doesn't compress cold air. stuck with the bill drove the car without ac. happy that it's at least able to run now.

- swapped tranny oil to redline mt 85. smooth shifts, but not scratches in 5th gear (a lot of manual 370z's are known for 5th gear scratches.)

- steering pump went out, replaced.

- RANDOM limp mode every blue moon.
sensors checked, no codes, won't happen until the next year once. glitch? idk.
Spent weeks reading forums and online, no one can pin point cause.

JARblue 07-05-2017 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by felix0121 (Post 3671301)
I envy your good fortune.

The steering rack (? I don't know what it is though) was covered at 85K, it seems like when the default factory warranty expired. Then did you buy an extended warranty..?? And what do you mean by 'goodwill coverage' ?? (curious) :D

Standard factory warranty expires at 3 years or 36K miles. I had already purchased an extended 100K mile warranty when I originally purchased the car.

Good will coverage is Nissan's term for when they cover parts and/or labor costs when the customer is on the hook for those costs. Generally, you have to buy lots of Nissan vehicles or spend lots of money on service at Nissan dealerships. I do not fall into this category, but Nissan clearly recognized that my airbag system failing is a pretty major safety concern and not worth the potential fall out if something were to happen to me. They covered replacement of multiple modules and airbags that failed and didn't charge me a dime. They also might have figured that I could be a big pain if they didn't cover the airbags and then I started a social media campaign against them (little do they know ... I don't even have a FB account).

SINISTER 07-05-2017 05:16 PM

I have owned performance cars with common major issues and problems that could have ended up costing over 15 to 20k to fix. Our most costly common problem is the CSC which can be fixed for 2k and that is it....Stupid things like hatch latch problems etc. all cars have similar hateful crap to deal with but that is no big deal... Most performance cars have big common problems like engine, supercharger, transmission failure things that will cost you 15 to 20K + to fix...we do NOT.....So I consider it one of the most reliable performance cars available.

SINISTER 07-05-2017 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by axmea? (Post 3670353)
Italian cars and reliability. These words cannot be in the same sentence.

Yea and one thread on this forum is all high on the Alfa Romeo Giulia, a car that reviewers are having die out and stop working during testing. The sad thing is the guys on this thread are trying to say that this one will be reliable....yea good luck with that....:shakes head:


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