Is VLSD in Sport Package really useful ?
 

I read an article saying that VLSD has low effect among all LSDs, and is usually used for low-HPs.

I don't know exactly what range of Horse Powers the author meant by 'low-HPs', but I just got curious about my VLSD.

So does the VLSD included in Sport Package really help for better driving, or it is actually not so useful that I cannot expect too much from using it..??

Which is a fact ??

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Well, considering your vlsd will just be an open diff after about 60,000 miles or less they arent far off lol

Do you mean that VLSD will be not working after driving 60,000 miles around ??

As the internal fluid breaks down, the limited slip effect becomes less and less. At roughly 60k miles (lots of variables, but that seems to be a good rule-of-thumb figure), you don't have much LS left.

Thanks for the explanation.

Until now I've done my best for all maintenances, and now hitting around 130K miles, I believe I must have gotten the VLSD fluid changed whenever needed.

Then if the fluids were changed properly, is it pretty useful for street driving? (I don't go to a track, and mostly I drive very mildly)

the fluid for the actual LSD itself is separate from the differential fluid that you drain from the differential. basically once the fluids in the LSD break down you have to get the LSD rebuilt

Then now my VLSD is useless even though I've followed everything on the Nissan maintenance guide ??

If yes, then it does frustrate me .. OTL

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Time to upgrade to Cusco LSD.

So you're sayin my VLSD @ 80,000 miles and 10 track days is prolly not LSD-ing anymore?

:ugh2:

Think of it as a wear item like your clutch.

There's some great upgrade options out there =)

Love my OS Giken! The aftermarket stuff requires a little more maintenance.

If what the others are saying is correct, then your LSD is about done.
Vote Cusco!

Mine has been done for a while, you can feel the on/off feeling of the vlsd when going through high g force turns

I'm just gonna replace mine unless I go ahead and buy the Nismo? I'm 15,000 miles from that point.

I thought its oil was wear item, so I followed the maintenance guide to get it changed whenever needed.

But I didn't expect the VLSD itself could be a wear one.

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Mine goes south after about 10 to 15 minutes on the track. After it cools, it will come back. :icon14:

Wavetrac for DD, and track. The more track time. Then Cusco or OS Gekin, which you can tune.

I wonder if this can be a warrantied item if one has an extended warranty? Without doing a burnout where there's only one tire mark, how else does one check lsd operation?

Good question. Wonder what the dealer does.

Umm.. am I reading this correctly? You guys are saying that the vlsd is only as good as the vlsd oil inside. Even if you change the oil for the vlsd, it is still toasted after 60k miles? This is because the vlsd and the oil in the pumpkin is separate from the vlsd? I have open my diff cover 2x. I never seen any separate oil inside. I'm no expert or anything like that but I'm 99% sure that changing the diff fluid is all that is needed to maintain the vlsd.

YzGyz

The VLSD fluid is silicone based. It it inside the ring gear carrier. Which is a sealed unit. There for separate from the gear lube. Changing the gear lube will have no effect on the silicone fluid in the ring gear carrier. The only way to change the silicone fluid is to get the whole ring gear carrier, because it is a factory sealed unit. So if you are going to do that. You should just go with an aftermarket LSD which is cheaper. Unless you find a factory VLSD on flea-bay. Most of these are toast to begin with. What happens is the silicone fluid breaks down over a period of time. Trackdays SPEED up the process. If you are into :driving:. It will break down quicker then say normal sane DD.

I wonder it too.

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One of many reasons why I bought a base model Z. Even when new, the VLSD is basically useless (open) after it heats up. Why pay extra for something like that?

When the time comes, I'll get the Tomei 1.5 way LSD, and upgrade to the 3.90 ring as well just for a little added "oomph".

Ahh, I see.

YzGyz

OP you don't have to wonder, Rusty just explained it to both you and yzgyz

Well I know the vsld doesn't engage after heat up but I'm not really sure it wears out? From my understanding (zero vlsd experience but enough corvette clutch type) the vlsd works similar to something like a AT torque converter (without a TCC luck up clutch). Really no moving/ friction parts to wear and silicon fluid can take a ton of heat cycles. I'll trust others who've experienced it fail but I was just planning to get a z1/ nismo diff cover to help keep it cooler longer (not competitive enough to buy a Gilken).

I read it after my posting. Thanks.

:D

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When new, the silicone fluid is thick. As it heats up. It becomes thinner. That's why during a track session. People noticing it going away. After cooling off. It comes back Now after so many miles. The fluid becomes thinner as it wears. That's why you read about people noticing the change in it's action. Once it wears, it doesn't come back.

I grasp the concept I'm just surprised the fluid breaks down so quick with no real debris exposure etc. not doubting it just surprising. Sucks I guess one more thing to plan on buying down the road, probably do a quaif/wavetrace type.

It's a polymer so mechanical shearing and heat will break down the polymer chains over time.

So basically

$3500 if you want the wavetrac and 3.9....

https://www.z1motorsports.com/transm...al-p-9075.html

and potential axle(s) on top of that price if your a base open diff.
EDIT: My bad I guess that Z1 sells it complete with them.