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cf370z 03-26-2017 08:55 PM

Need help.. I've read all about steering lock isues.please help
 
I took my car threw car wash at work to day and right after. My windshield wipers would not shut off. So I shut car off and tried restarting.when I did this the dash started flashing out going dead. Coming back on and off I drove it .And the hazard lights came on would not shut off .Well they would but I could do nothing to shut them off. The key light came on after I got home.
And the dash was dead at this point drove it home dead. Shut car off . And replaced battery in key fob. Car would start as soon as I pushed clutch in without hitting button. But would not shut off I took key inside away from car and it still would not shut off . After replacing the battery in fob the key light still comes on and will not start like it should if I play around it will start sometimes but still will not shut off. It threw a code for loss of communication to HVAC. Only code that is in it anyone have any ideas
Thank you

cf370z 03-26-2017 08:59 PM

I forgot to say the steering lock has already been replaced once.
And battery volts are 13.5

ssmoked 03-26-2017 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by cf370z (Post 3632632)
I forgot to say the steering lock has already been replaced once.
And battery volts are 13.5

And why didn't you pull the fuse right after?

37zeroZ 03-26-2017 10:57 PM

Wow, that was a hard read. Doesn't sound like a steering lock failure. There's more going on that the lock failure.

SouthArk370Z 03-26-2017 11:32 PM

Sounds a lot like you got the wiring wet. Pop the hood and look for water. If everything is dry, I'd try removing a terminal from battery, press on brake pedal for a few seconds, and reconnect battery. This resets the ECM, auto-up window operation, and radio presets. It will take a few minutes of driving around for the ECM to re-learn the engine, the window reset procedure takes about 30 seconds. The difficult part will be re-entering the radio presets.

Edit: the ECM is somewhere in the passenger footwell - check it for moisture. Not sure where the BCM is located but would check it too.

SouthArk370Z 03-26-2017 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cf370z (Post 3632632)
I forgot to say the steering lock has already been replaced once. ...

Pull the fuse

cf370z 03-27-2017 07:06 AM

This happened after I went threw water so I'm thinking moister also. I have removed the battery cable. Only way I could get it to shut the power off . And I just got the car so I haven't removed the fuse cause I haven't had chance to look for it to remove it.

cf370z 03-27-2017 07:12 AM

Now when I rebook up battery. And try the security light flashing and I get the lock light on the push button start and the Intel key flash if I put fob in it starts beeping with door open get clutch light but still says lock . Steering wheel is not locked can turn it .

Louie cat 03-27-2017 07:42 AM

It is very difficult to understand what the issue is there,get it to a reputable shop that has experience with the Z. sorry for your troubles :(

cf370z 03-27-2017 11:16 AM

It now has a u0164 HVAC communication code
But car still not shutting off with button if it starts it starts without pushing button. Key light still on . Could the HVAC module cause the bcm not to communicate with the key or bcm

chubbs 03-27-2017 11:29 AM

Sounds like you may have a dangerous car there, if it starts just by pressing the clutch down. I agree that you must get it to a good repair shop as soon as you can. It may well be water-related, but you don't know, especially if the car is new to you.

Be safe.

Ghostvette 03-27-2017 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by cf370z (Post 3632630)
I took my car threw car wash at work to day and right after. My windshield wipers would not shut off. So I shut car off and tried restarting.when I did this the dash started flashing out going dead. Coming back on and off I drove it .And the hazard lights came on would not shut off .Well they would but I could do nothing to shut them off. The key light came on after I got home.
And the dash was dead at this point drove it home dead. Shut car off . And replaced battery in key fob. Car would start as soon as I pushed clutch in without hitting button. But would not shut off I took key inside away from car and it still would not shut off . After replacing the battery in fob the key light still comes on and will not start like it should if I play around it will start sometimes but still will not shut off. It threw a code for loss of communication to HVAC. Only code that is in it anyone have any ideas
Thank you

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3632688)
Sounds a lot like you got the wiring wet. Pop the hood and look for water. If everything is dry, I'd try removing a terminal from battery, press on brake pedal for a few seconds, and reconnect battery. This resets the ECM, auto-up window operation, and radio presets. It will take a few minutes of driving around for the ECM to re-learn the engine, the window reset procedure takes about 30 seconds. The difficult part will be re-entering the radio presets.

Edit: the ECM is somewhere in the passenger footwell - check it for moisture. Not sure where the BCM is located but would check it too.

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Originally Posted by cf370z (Post 3632744)
This happened after I went threw water so I'm thinking moister also. I have removed the battery cable. Only way I could get it to shut the power off . And I just got the car so I haven't removed the fuse cause I haven't had chance to look for it to remove it.

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Originally Posted by cf370z (Post 3632745)
Now when I rebook up battery. And try the security light flashing and I get the lock light on the push button start and the Intel key flash if I put fob in it starts beeping with door open get clutch light but still says lock . Steering wheel is not locked can turn it .

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Originally Posted by chubbs (Post 3632844)
Sounds like you may have a dangerous car there, if it starts just by pressing the clutch down. I agree that you must get it to a good repair shop as soon as you can. It may well be water-related, but you don't know, especially if the car is new to you.

Be safe.


Possible solution: Flood damaged car.... :eekdance:

sx moneypit 03-27-2017 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette (Post 3632853)
Possible solution: Flood damaged car.... :eekdance:

:iagree:

Chuck33079 03-27-2017 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghostvette (Post 3632853)
Possible solution: Flood damaged car.... :eekdance:

It does seem to tick all of the boxes on that one. Fingers crossed it's not.

Rocxtar 03-27-2017 01:18 PM

If all these issues happened right after the car wash I would agree with others and think wet wiring somewhere. How long ago was the Steering Lock Box replaced? Unless it was just recently done, I don't think its that.

cf370z 03-27-2017 02:15 PM

It's been a while back . That lock was replaced they also replaced tranny. Bout same time
That's all that is in the history for this car from dealer and car fax . I know it got wet floor board was wet . But I pulled ECU checked it . Was dry. The bcm is right there I couldn't feel no moister around it. The water seems like it came from somewhere near or under the fan.i did all the reset computer and drove it . It will not shut off if you get it started. And before it start security light still flashing . And I have to put key fob in holder but if it starts it's without hitting the button it just will start when you hold the clutch for a while by its self. I have dump clutch shut it off. And take battery cable off to get the power off inside car I.e. the push button on light and warning lights on dash . It will throw a code u0164 communication HVAC . It will go away and come back as car is running or shut off. I took it to dealer for them to diagnose it. We shall see.it didn't do this till I went threw car wash . So I don't think it flood car I thing a seal around wind shield or wiring harness allowed water in.

Rocxtar 03-27-2017 02:41 PM

I hope whatever it is, that is not too much to fix and that you can get your car running right soon. Keep us updated so we are aware and perhaps avoid it.

Array 03-27-2017 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cf370z (Post 3632909)
It's been a while back . That lock was replaced they also replaced tranny. Bout same time
That's all that is in the history for this car from dealer and car fax . I know it got wet floor board was wet . But I pulled ECU checked it . Was dry. The bcm is right there I couldn't feel no moister around it. The water seems like it came from somewhere near or under the fan.i did all the reset computer and drove it . It will not shut off if you get it started. And before it start security light still flashing . And I have to put key fob in holder but if it starts it's without hitting the button it just will start when you hold the clutch for a while by its self. I have dump clutch shut it off. And take battery cable off to get the power off inside car I.e. the push button on light and warning lights on dash . It will throw a code u0164 communication HVAC . It will go away and come back as car is running or shut off. I took it to dealer for them to diagnose it. We shall see.it didn't do this till I went threw car wash . So I don't think it flood car I thing a seal around wind shield or wiring harness allowed water in.


definitely BCM, ECU I believe is more gauged towards the Motor components where as the BCM is more accessories, seeing as how the drivability is fine it leads one to believe BCM. BCM went on the Fritz in my Altima and had very similar issues as far as car turning on and accessories not functioning as intended, it would also not turn off, i eventually had to pull the alternator cable and let it die otherwise it would have burned through the tank, I ended up bringing it to Nissan and they diagnosed it with a bad BCM and Remote start.

It was purchased as a CPO with the aftermarket remote starter installed but they refused to service it because of this reason, I argued it shouldn't have been a CPO without Nissan genuine parts but thats another story, they found minor burns in the wiring connection between the BCM/Remote Start and Dash, I was lucky enough to get it serviced for free after a 2 week battle, however new parts pointed upwards of $2,000.

I would advise you double check all fuses and wiring that you can at this point, anything thats been unplugged or attached since service on ur Z

cf370z 03-28-2017 03:39 PM

Well they say steering lock not communicating. They want 1200 for that and then may be more .. that's latest....I don't think it's lock cause it locked wheel sitting here at house and unlocked I think they just use that as go to to make money off us because it wasn't included in the recall like the Sentra and maximum. I called Nissan to complain and open a inquiry why us as a group are getting stiffed in the recall. And made them aware of the deals using it to profit . First thing out there mouth it's the steering lock.

cf370z 03-28-2017 03:50 PM

I think the bcm got fried but the first thing out there mouth is steering lock

Ghostvette 03-28-2017 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cf370z (Post 3633467)
I think the bcm got fried but the first thing out there mouth is steering lock

That's where they will start because 1)it's easy and 2) they don't know how to properly troubleshoot. IMHO, if you can get a BCM from a salvaged 370z (2009 or 2010) that hasn't been water damaged already, it's worth a shot. If the car does everything it's supposed to, then you are probably done. What I don't know is if the BCM & the ECU have to match (as in both from a Z). GL

cf370z 03-28-2017 04:05 PM

It may have be programed to see the vin

KrnAndy 03-30-2017 02:35 AM

I'm interested in what kind of car wash you did

cf370z 04-01-2017 12:36 AM

just a pipe rack car wash basically a four pole with spray nozzles. I got car back , the car started on its own with no one in it in the shop , without clutch in.they was saying steering lock cause it wouldn't start , till it started on its own they told me it wouldn't after I had started like 12 times and heard and felt steering lock , lock and unlock , so I had go back down there and get them on the same page told them we are not replacing the steering lock . we are starting where the water came in (around the wiring harness the cavity filled up and water ran down the harness to the bcm and filled it up with water)and what is right there , the bcm , replaced bcm and everything works now , except the hatch will not open ,may have fried the trunk lift assist, but I drove it to work and it was fine till I stopped and got out car and came back and key light came on ill be pulling the fuse in morning before I leave work.

cf370z 04-01-2017 05:58 PM

I pulled lock fuse and key light still on . is it suppose stay on when fuse is pulled . from the lock ?


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