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socalD370z 12-16-2016 12:58 PM

Fast intentions twin turbo kit-7at
 
Called willing to spend some money on a twin t setup and fast intentions guy tells me 30 k cushion and he can't even do the work cause cali? What to do-_- lol help

And is there a cheaper alternative to forced induction on a 7at?
I haven't heard any good things about stillen supercharger kit.


Appreciate some help.

B&W_Evader 12-16-2016 01:13 PM

If you're wanting CARB you may want to wait and see what RJM is coming up with. Only CARB option is Stillen. The frozen boost upgrade should make it safer and keep it CARB. Otherwise, have FI's kit installed out of state.

shirokenkami 12-16-2016 01:39 PM

I'm fairly certain that the GReddy kit is CARB legal but I could be wrong.

socalD370z 12-16-2016 01:43 PM

Well I really don't wanna spent that lol. I had 9k sitting and I wanted to see what I could work with ahah . I know it's barely touching the forced induction costs, especially with a 7at... but at the moment the cars going through a full make over...but wanted to get a forums opinions on what would be a good option and good cost.

Heard about s and r, but it's in floridia... stillens another option but is it really even that worth it for the gains it shows? And twin t is a lot more expensive and I don't know if I'm ready to do that just yet...

Any one care to chime in?

RJ MFG 12-16-2016 01:48 PM

our whipple supercharger kit may do the trick but it wont be public until mid next year. once we have finished the testing and design we may open up for preorders. also we will be looking into carb approval for the base kit.

Jayhovah 12-16-2016 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by socalD370z (Post 3590536)
Heard about s and r, but it's in floridia...

Quote:

Originally Posted by RJ MFG (Post 3590538)
our whipple supercharger kit may do the trick


Am I the only one that found this amusing?

socalD370z 12-16-2016 02:13 PM

I just saw a vid on you tube. Lol about some single turbo out of flordia, I thought it was the s and r one. I may be mistaken it was a few days ago. That's why I asked you guys

Chuck33079 12-16-2016 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shirokenkami (Post 3590533)
I'm fairly certain that the GReddy kit is CARB legal but I could be wrong.

Did they release their new kit? The old one was discontinued.

birdman71 12-16-2016 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by socalD370z (Post 3590536)
Well I really don't wanna spent that lol. I had 9k sitting and I wanted to see what I could work with ahah . I know it's barely touching the forced induction costs, especially with a 7at... but at the moment the cars going through a full make over...but wanted to get a forums opinions on what would be a good option and good cost.

9k would cover parts cost on a Single Turbo setup plus some supporting mods for a 370z. Not any of the labor etc.
Single turbos are not really recommended for our cars due to kits available, engine bay space etc. Custom kits are wayyy to expensive. be better to go TT if you go FI

Supercharger kits have lots of issues too but hopefully RJM can fix that with their new kits. Be better to go TT if you go FI until RJM has something available.

If you do want to go TT and have the big boy kit it will cost you close to $30k fairly quickly. If you wanted to do a Stage 1 or Stage 2 I'm sure you could get away between $20-$25k on parts and labor etc. :tiphat:

brucelidat 12-16-2016 03:21 PM

30k seems high, I have been told closer to 20k. I am sure FI and Seb could work something out for you. I have never had them tell me they couldn't do it because we're in California.

brucelidat 12-16-2016 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RJ MFG (Post 3590538)
our whipple supercharger kit may do the trick but it wont be public until mid next year. once we have finished the testing and design we may open up for preorders. also we will be looking into carb approval for the base kit.

Well this is interesting. With the GTM mess and the Stillen kit being kind of lame, there hasn't been a good SC option in a long time. Hopefully, this kit will be top quality like the FI tt kit. I have heard the GTM one had some issues and Stillen's kit issues are well documented.

socalD370z 12-16-2016 03:32 PM

Yeah 30k I was like wtf

Talked to kev..... for about 1 minute, told me they don't work on cali cars... so I threw a few names from the forums and he didn't have much to say lol

But I guess when u got 30k to toss around to go fast... hey . Do what u gotta do fast intentions ahaha smh

socalD370z 12-16-2016 03:33 PM

But tbh, if there's not really a cheaper option I can't really say much. Pay to play and we talked on the "phone" so u know how that goes..

Trips 12-16-2016 03:43 PM

The CARB process form what I've seen from pasts vendors exploring this is cert is thats a real pia lengthy expensive process

to the point vendors simply give up since the cost is only for Cali so it doesn't make financial sense to see it thru.

So for the most part all Cali FI owners with the exception of Stillen have to install and run it at your own risk of not getting caught by LEO

But again that goes for anything approved as off road use only.

socalD370z 12-16-2016 04:00 PM

So what would u guys do, I got 9500 to either redo and finish the bolt ons and tune, or I can go full amuse with the oil cooler +tune bolt on/ or third.

Fix my cracked headlights, repair stock damage (ran over cones on freeway ) and supercharge or save for a less expensive alternative to turbos


What would u guys do ahah

ZeroZeta 12-16-2016 04:16 PM

If you factor in all the supporting costs including upgrading the 7AT to handle the TQ, fuel system upgrades, coolers, and labor it does start getting pretty high.

Honestly, if you really want to go FI and want to spend some of your budget, jump into those less fun supporting mods that would be needed anyway for an FI build.

If you don't want to go beyond your budget or don't want to wait however long it takes to get the money together, then by all means bolt ons and Amuse would be awesome.

Duc_Z09 12-16-2016 04:43 PM

You need to ask yourself what your goals are for the car. You may be better served with bolt-ons, driving lessons and a few track days if you're just looking for a good time. If you want bragging rights there are cheaper platforms than the Z that are much faster per dollar invested.

Don't get me wrong, I love my Z. But if I just wanted the fastest thing I can afford I would have looked elsewhere.

Spooler 12-16-2016 05:24 PM

TT's are not cheap. 10K won't touch it. 20K will get you started. It is what it is. Cali laws make it a big issue in your area.

ChaseZ 12-16-2016 06:19 PM

The Stillen SC is CARB certified isn't it?

9.5k could look at that plus Air to Air, Ecutek and I believe it's $1000 for the auto trans build.
Of course that doesn't include labour so it depends if you turn your own wrenches or not.

jchammond 12-16-2016 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by socalD370z (Post 3590590)
So what would u guys do, I got 9500 to either redo and finish the bolt ons and tune, or I can go full amuse with the oil cooler +tune bolt on/ or third.

Fix my cracked headlights, repair stock damage (ran over cones on freeway ) and supercharge or save for a less expensive alternative to turbos


What would u guys do ahah

If you are going boost (or not) the best place to start, is the Foundation...
A good traction device in diff(bushing's,rear cover & possible gear swap),external eng. & trans oil coolers,a more adjustable suspension & decide weather or not you're gonna lower,up-grade wheels/tires.....just a few basic thing's weather you do/don't go forced induction....You can go through 9k pretty quick.

Jhill 12-16-2016 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duc_Z09 (Post 3590596)
You need to ask yourself what your goals are for the car. You may be better served with bolt-ons, driving lessons and a few track days if you're just looking for a good time. If you want bragging rights there are cheaper platforms than the Z that are much faster per dollar invested.

Don't get me wrong, I love my Z. But if I just wanted the fasted thing I can afford I would have looked elsewhere.

Also if he truly plans to track I'm not sure how effective tt setup is for the z. heat can quickly become an issue so then your fighting cooling and that adds more cost. Maybe not an issue for the z but a few BMW groups guys I know went FI on the e90 and later removed it as their lap times really weren't any better since the heat kept having to pull timing, etc etc and eventually the actual power difference wasn't noticeable after lap 4-5.

brucelidat 12-16-2016 10:18 PM

The best mod in terms of actually feeling it are 4.08 gears and an Ecutek tune for throttle response. After that, whatver your first breathing mod is will net you the most gains on the dyno. After that, you can do more breahting mods for less gains or do your suspension if you want to hit the track.

socalD370z 12-17-2016 12:38 AM

Right now In the cart I got


Option 1

Amuse front/side/rear
Vs1 fenders
Ss hood
2016 nismo lights
34 z1 cooler
Pulley
Invidia Gemini
Tune

Car already has

Aem intakes
Berk test pipes
Bc coils

Or option b

Exhaust stillen
And revamp stock front end w a lip
And 2016 lights
+oil cooler



Which.... style or a lil boost?

socalD370z 12-17-2016 12:39 AM

Someone give me option c!

brucelidat 12-17-2016 12:56 AM

staying NA, the gears will be the biggest difference you feel

socalD370z 12-17-2016 01:01 AM

How much after install do those gears run? And do u really feel a big difference?

socalD370z 12-17-2016 09:37 AM

Bump

Jayhovah 12-17-2016 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by socalD370z (Post 3590722)
Someone give me option c!

I've seen a bunch of mentions of CARB legal... but I am not sure I saw you mention it as a requirement? Are you trying to stay CARB legal?

Also, are you doing all the labor yourself?

If you're doing the work and don't care about carb, you could probably do a BP kit or a Stillen kit (maybe with the A2A upgrade) inside your budget, but you will have to go pretty sparse on the supporting mods. Technically all you'll need is the kit, tune, and clutch... However if anything goes wrong you'll need to ensure you have the funds available for another motor or tranny.

I think the biggest barrier for you is the 7AT... if you don't build it you will have to keep the boost and power down. Others here are more knowledgeable than me about how much power the OEM 7AT can handle.

Maybe the best thing for you is a plain stillen kit with no further upgrades to it.

ChaseZ 12-17-2016 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayhovah (Post 3590805)
Maybe the best thing for you is a plain stillen kit with no further upgrades to it.

There's no shame in a "stock" supercharger :icon17:

:driving:

nomodsjk 12-17-2016 10:28 AM

You could wait to see a used tt set up pop up on here for sale.. happens all the time but they get snatched up pretty quick. I really dont get all the hate comig from the stillen kit. Ive had mine for over 2yrs now and i love it..in terms of. Ang for ur buck (on our platform) stillen isnt bad at all. You just have to get a custom tune or its a waste imho

socalD370z 12-17-2016 01:41 PM

Is the stillen kit able to be installed by a person who's pretty handy in the garage...? I heard it's straight bolt up?

But would I need any extras due to the 7at? Cooling issues?

UNKNOWN_370 12-17-2016 04:46 PM

Adding a turbo to my AT was my dream. I crunched the numbers and it just didn't seem to make sense. That's why I've been going crazy waiting for the turbo Z35.

socalD370z 12-17-2016 05:44 PM

Is the stillen kit...


Easy install?
Cooling options and is it worth it in the end?

Price after everything *


Please chime in

jchammond 12-17-2016 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by socalD370z (Post 3590937)
Is the stillen kit...


Easy install?
Cooling options and is it worth it in the end?

Price after everything *


Please chime in



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BehindSpace 12-17-2016 10:01 PM

lern to do the install yourself or dont do it, things will break and then you dont know how to troubleshoot it and fix it so you will have to pay somebody alot of money, it doesnt matter the shop that installs it things will break and go bad espetially with the tune and then other parts. you will get mad and sell the car soon

socalD370z 12-18-2016 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BehindSpace (Post 3591016)
lern to do the install yourself or dont do it, things will break and then you dont know how to troubleshoot it and fix it so you will have to pay somebody alot of money, it doesnt matter the shop that installs it things will break and go bad espetially with the tune and then other parts. you will get mad and sell the car soon

Lol hhahaha maybe for you


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