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speedworks 01-15-2010 08:27 PM

Not necessarily the manufacturer, but the actual design. OEM tires are designed, developed, and tuned for that particular car, every manuf/model being different. They are tuned for dry perf, wet perf, noise, rolling resistance, wear, comfort, uniformity, look, etc. You can't have an all around perfect tire, because as one factor increases, usually another factor is reduced. in my opinion, this particular tire was poorly evaluated in cold weather. When I worked at both Michelin and Ford, this would have been found during cold weather testing, and eliminated. As a designer, it is dissappointing. But, what can you do - but buy different tires.

kannibul 01-16-2010 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy (Post 355612)
This finally then explains why my wife's XTerra does the same thing when I kick in the front tires to 4x4. It IS exactly the same sounding and feeling scrub that I have noticed that my 370Z front tires do in cold temps.

If you're using 4WD with enough traction to make your tires/wheels skip, while turning...something is going to break.

Use 2WD until you can go any more, then use 4WD to get you to where you can use 2WD again.

If you're just cycling it as part of some kind of maintenance, do so, but don't do it with the wheels turned - go in a straight line for no more than a few hundred yards at most. The main issue is that it'll build up tension until something pops.

kannibul 01-16-2010 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by speedworks (Post 362325)
Not necessarily the manufacturer, but the actual design. OEM tires are designed, developed, and tuned for that particular car, every manuf/model being different. They are tuned for dry perf, wet perf, noise, rolling resistance, wear, comfort, uniformity, look, etc. You can't have an all around perfect tire, because as one factor increases, usually another factor is reduced. in my opinion, this particular tire was poorly evaluated in cold weather. When I worked at both Michelin and Ford, this would have been found during cold weather testing, and eliminated. As a designer, it is dissappointing. But, what can you do - but buy different tires.

It all depends on the application. Otherwise, we'd all be using R-Compund tires with just enoguh groves cut in them to make DOT happy.

speedworks 01-16-2010 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 362705)
It all depends on the application. Otherwise, we'd all be using R-Compund tires with just enoguh groves cut in them to make DOT happy.

I'm talking the OEM tire that comes with the car, and all the characteristics come by the design team (usually lead chassis engineer).

kannibul 01-16-2010 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by speedworks (Post 362769)
I'm talking the OEM tire that comes with the car, and all the characteristics come by the design team (usually lead chassis engineer).

I know, I'm just bustin' balls :)

speedworks 01-16-2010 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 362930)
I know, I'm just bustin' balls :)

I hear ya. R compound DOT tires are fun, until it rains.

garyzez5 01-19-2010 02:56 PM

Crunch
 
Happens to me when the temp goes below freezing. The colder it gets the worse it gets.


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