Why no comparison with Lexus IS or Infiniti Q50?
 

How do the Lexus or Infiniti cars compare with the Z. Would someone with a 2014+ model consider it a trade up or down if it's to a used IS 250, a Q50, IS 350 with the same mileage?

Cannot compare Saloon & Sports Car.....Totally not the same Class.

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Luxury Sedan ≠ Sport Coupe. Apples and oranges.

As stated.

Agree to the above. My wife has a 2015 IS350 AWD F Sport. Arguably is as fast the 370Z and holds up well in the twisties. But just isn't the same feel.

A sport-tuned sedan just doesn't have the same character or dynamics as a purpose built spots car.

But if you have to make the sacrifice for personal reasons - like me...a sport-tuned AWD sedan can help take the monotony out of the daily commute. I've beat the hell out of my 2012 TL AWD and its held up admirably for 135k+ miles.

But if you make the change just to have something different, you will be disappointed.

I'm counting the days to my next Z Car, Cayman, or used 911.

Entirely different classes....but this isn't a completely wrong question if you are completely versatile in car selection. Sports saloons and sedans, as cars in general, can be fulfilling enough to own.

I was actually in this same situation. Family really wanted me to get an IS. The 350 F Sport is a really nice car to be honest, million times more practical, and like mentioned it's no slouch. But I didn't absolutely need to have it. For the money I opted to indulge and take on compromises with the Z.

So if this is in fact the situation OP is in, then it just boils down to practicality in your area.

If you want to drive a boat then get the sedans. If you want to drive a scalpel on wheels then get the Z.

I have a 2nd Gen is250 awd. 3rd Gen is350 awd f sport. I can guarantee that neither car can take the z in a corner.

I get dusted by GTI and prius all time off the line. Lol oh well

apples to oranges

i have a 370z and a g37x

Funny, I just started looking into those IS 350 F Sport cars the other day and now this thread pops up.

Why not? A Saloon can have equal or better acceleration, braking, or cornering grip.

Hell the Macan Turbo beats the Z on the first 2 and grips at 0.89g vs the Z's 0.90g.

So similar performance, similar price point, and then you're really just weighing what size/space you prefer.

.90g? Ummm. It's .94g on a base Z .99g on a sport. 1g on a Nismo.

In this particular test the sport touring got 1.01g

http://carsort.com/compare/Infiniti-...0Z#performance

A Saloon or SUV may got better performance than the Z,but they are still a 4 or 5 Seaters,while our Z are Selfish Car,only max 2 Persons can enjoy it.....like the Mazda MX-5,not really a good performer,but why so many people like it.?

2015 Nissan 370Z vs. 2015 Porsche Macan Turbo | REVdata

Here's an PDK macan vs a MANUAL 370z.
The manual Z gets to 60 in 4.9. An auto Z gets to 60 in .3 seconds faster which equals 4.6. The same time as the Macan. So with transmission being equal it's a drivers race and the Z out handles the Macan by a HUGE MARGIN!

You can't be serious? If you are, then you are missing the point of owning a true sports car. Yes, there are sedans and SUV's that are faster with great skid pad performance, but the feel is completely and I mean completely different. It's not about the numbers and how good it looks on paper. It's like comparing a horse to a camel. Trained race camels have been known to be faster than horses on occasion but which would you rather ride? Which looks more graceful and has a better feel? LOL.

PS: By the way, your skidpad numbers are wrong.

My wife has a 2014 is250 fsport, and i can tell you, there is no way in hell to compare these 2 cars. In terms of luxury, the lexus has the advantage, but in terms of performance, it falls way short of the Z.

Luxury and comfort=lexus
Raw driving experience and performance=Z

What you want most in a car will determine if its and upgrade or a downgrade.

ME:
Z > lexus

2008 is250 and a 2014 is350 awd f sport.

While the new iteration of the IS is comfortable, quiet, smooth the throttle response is laggy. And that's with sport+ on.

Then you have the body roll.

Then you have the tires.

Then you also have the automatic transmission that isn't the same as z auto. It's so... soft and slow. Even in tip tronic mode.

And believe me when I say this. Once you're moving over 50mph the z feels nicer on pulls from mid range rpm.

But these are two separate cars in two different car segments. Not the marketing segments that companies attempt to reclassify. This is a sports coupe vs luxury sport sedan.

I was using direct comparison for the two on the exact same skid pad. Using other side numbers is irrelevant as it's not apples to apples.

You realize rev data scrapes from manufactures given information right? So, congrats, you're looking at listed numbers and not actual test data. And test results go to show it doesn't actually out handle by a huge margin. But we can go off of manufacturer numbers anyways and you're wrong again. Sport+ mode on the PDK is 4.2 0-60.

Enjoy reading up on some equal comparisons, I never said that was max lat g's that either vehicle is capable of. But what I provided is on an equal skid pad that's the difference, so no, they are not wrong, 0.01g difference. You're right, this is about equal tests on road/track environment not just paper.
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Or try watching a video or a macan without sport chrono (aka slower version)?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RVr8XkeuKA



I was simply using the Macan Turbo (an SUV) as an example of why you can compare a sports car to a saloon because I know details on the Macan. Please see signature if you think I dunno the point of a sports car :rofl2:

Not only are his skidpad numbers wrong. But both vehicles in automatic get to 60 in exactly the same time. 4.6 with roll-out.