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Silver37 11-27-2009 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jpit (Post 296522)
Actually I don't hear it in the cabin after the engine starts so I guess it's not as bad as the ecu problem. I think ecu is under the carpet in front of the passenger.

I just tested for the throttle body noise, and I also have that on my G37, but it's really of no consequence compared to the noise I'm hearing from the ECU which is many times louder.

JMA 11-27-2009 11:37 PM

What's an ECU?
 
Can someone please tell someone new to the forum what an ECU is?

Thanks

WShade 11-27-2009 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JMA (Post 298330)
Can someone please tell someone new to the forum what an ECU is?

Thanks

Electronic Control Unit (ECU). Your cars brain / main computer.

drisko 11-28-2009 12:15 AM

I was very surprised when I heard this so called high-pitched noise while my car was completely turned off. I had it up on ramps yesterday and I could easily hear a high-pitched tone coming from somewhere in the engine bay. Really annoying and should be fixed by Nissan.

Weird thing though, I have been under the car before and never noticed it, so maybe it only comes on under certain conditions?

avitech 11-28-2009 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jpit (Post 294242)
With the number of people on this board and some with great expertise we should be able to pinpoint what is causing the high pitched noise problem. I believe that there are two separate problems and that is creating some confusion. The high pitched noise I hear is definitely not coming from the ecu. It is coming from under the hood at the rear of the engine. It is around
10 kh and is accompanied by what sounds like static (like a cheap 1" speaker being over driven). For those who have this noise, please turn on the ignition
(engine not running) and put the transmission in any gear (out of neutral) and have the hood up. You can clearly hear the noise and it abruptly stops when you put the transmission into neutral. It wll start up again as soon as you start to put the shifter into gear. I think it is some type of relay problem.
Anybody know if there is a relay in that location?


I don't know the specifics of this particular engine. But my best guess without actually seeing the problem in real life; I guess it could be the fuel pump. Maybe it's the sound of the fuel under pressure passing through the fuel pressure regulator. I have had cars the made similar noises.

The problem with warranty's is that it says in the terms and conditions that it doesn't cover out of place noises, sounds, or vibrations. So unless the car isn't running smoothly, there isn't much that can be done about it legally.

avitech 11-28-2009 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by WShade (Post 298358)
Electronic Control Unit (ECU). Your cars brain / main computer.

I just don't understand how an ECU could make much noise. All it is, is an integrated circuit with small amounts of electrons flowing through printed microscopic circuits and transistors. Electricity at this tiny level doesn't make much noise but lightning does. for example. If your desktop computer were switched ON but your had removed every single cooling fan and electric motor, the computer would be virtually silent. It wouldn't run for long before overheating though and I wouldn't recommend it.

I have seen many engines in my life. The relationship between humans and reciprocating engines is illogical sometimes. People start to expect too much out of them. They are complicated pieces of machinery and stuff is bound to go wrong. Considering how complicated they are, they are a whole labyrinth of moving parts and systems that are all operating independently of one another. Great is their complexity. At any moment certain parts of the engine are activated seamlessly without the driver ever knowing about it. A little noise is normal. You've got all kinds of fluids operating under pressure and at different temperatures.

Considering the great complexity of these engines. It's only natural that there would be some unexplained noises. And in some ways engines are no different than computers. Where the unit is programed to operate a certain way under certain conditions etc. Although I enjoy working with engines more then computers since it just seems more rewarding. I can't stand offices and cubicles and all the stale air inside to contend with.

A bad engine is almost like bad computer programing.

I plan on keeping up with this technical problem. I'd like to find out what it is.

No car company is perfect. Even BMW makes engineering mistakes at times. They once made a BMW motorcycle that had the fuel tank located close the the engine in such a way the the fuel inside the tank would start to boil from the high heat!

Silver37 11-28-2009 06:37 AM

I'm still not convinced that it's just the ECU. My noise has been off and on for the last several days, and I can't seem to find the smoking gun of what triggers the event. It can be there from the first second after the first start of the day, or not at all, making me think there are other components involved. Very strange.

jpit 11-28-2009 10:16 AM

It was confirmed that some throttle bodies also make a high pitched noise and this is coming from the engine compartment. Not as loud as the noise coming from the ecu.

avitech 11-28-2009 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jpit (Post 298660)
It was confirmed that some throttle bodies also make a high pitched noise and this is coming from the engine compartment. Not as loud as the noise coming from the ecu.

Yeah I'm pretty sure a throttle body can make noise if it had some electrical stuff in it.

Another item to look for is the ABS brake system. Those make noise too at start up. Especially during start up since the system has the reset itself. For lack of a better word for it.

tjlazer 04-04-2010 11:40 PM

My 2009 6MT has this issue, loud high pitched sound from back of engine. It does sound like a cheap distorted speaker... Weird.

efuseakay 04-05-2010 11:00 AM

The '09 G guys have this issue too.

They have gotten their ECUs replaced, and that has solved the issue.

*FIX for high-pitch frequency noise* - MyG37

TheWeatherman 04-05-2010 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by efuseakay (Post 481684)
The '09 G guys have this issue too.

They have gotten their ECUs replaced, and that has solved the issue.

*FIX for high-pitch frequency noise* - MyG37

It is the ECU. I am 100% positive.

efuseakay 04-05-2010 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWeatherman (Post 482453)
It is the ECU. I am 100% positive.

Yup!

It's only happening to the '09 guys as well. I'm surprised Nissan hasn't owned up to this with the Z though.

TheWeatherman 04-05-2010 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by efuseakay (Post 482468)
Yup!

It's only happening to the '09 guys as well. I'm surprised Nissan hasn't owned up to this with the Z though.

I think they're still trying to find the most cost-effective fix.

efuseakay 04-05-2010 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWeatherman (Post 482478)
I think they're still trying to find the most cost-effective fix.

They are pulling a Toyota... except this isn't a safety issue. lol


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