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God-Speed 05-23-2016 09:31 AM

If you go for a GTR, just make sure to take your time in finding the RIGHT ONE!! Do your research and best of luck in what ever decision you go with! :tup:

ZHighlander 05-23-2016 11:20 AM

If GTR is the car you want, and it seems like you're trying to convince/justify to everyone why you'd want it, then just go for it. No one else is going to drive it but you and your family, so you and your family should be the decision makers.

I bought my Sports Tech Z new, after driving it for 3 weeks, I regretted not getting the Nismo version. Decided to trade in and get the 2016 Nismo Tech. Absolutely horrible financial decision, but I could afford it and couldn't care less what other people thought about the loss in the trade. In the end, I was completely happy with the Nismo and won't look back.

Same idea here, if you really love it, go for it. The only thing to make sure of, is that you really do love it and you can afford the maintenance. The Maintenance on the GTR really is no joke, and after several years of maintenance, you might've even paid for another luxury sedan.

So if you're fine on the finance, and you're not taking your kid's college funds for the maintenance, and you've weighed the pros and cons relative to your personal driving habits, then go for it and you can at least say you've "been there, done that".

Other things to consider... Lots of people will be eyeing your car, and that's probably a good thing. But if they take a peak inside and see a child seat in there... be prepared from a change of "awe" to very confused looks of, "Are you crazy, dude!?" Lol.

Darwins Child 05-23-2016 12:19 PM

On the pro-trade side, I just noticed that you live in Kissimmee. My wife and I used to own a winter home in Melbourne. If you have a nice garage or carport at home and at work that will shield the vehicle from hours of paint-fading, plastic/vinyl-killing sun-rays, you have the perfect climate for a white GT-R (or any other vehicle, including motorcycles, for that matter) as a year-round daily driver.

Typical automotive AC compressors in Melbourne's climate have an average life expectancy of about 5-years. So if I were buying a used GT-R, one of the first questions I'd ask the present owner is when the AC compressor or other AC parts were last replaced, if ever, and planning/pricing accordingly. I'd also be boning up on the real-life AC experiences of other GT-R owners in Florida and either how to DIY the AC system, or how much it would cost to get that done by pros. A little voice tells me that for a GT-R, the latter may require either a new home mortgage or the sale of a family member's kidney to a wealthy Chinese buyer.:D

edk370 05-23-2016 12:54 PM

Is the GTR in good condition? Then I'd do it. I don't know how reliable they are, or how much maintenance, but it seems like a no brainer. That's an affordable supercar. 11's out the box, 200 mph top speed. It doesn't get any better than that for under $100K.

ZHighlander 05-23-2016 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by edk370 (Post 3485110)
Is the GTR in good condition? Then I'd do it. I don't know how reliable they are, or how much maintenance, but it seems like a no brainer. That's an affordable supercar. 11's out the box, 200 mph top speed. It doesn't get any better than that for under $100K.

The Maintenance costs should not be ignored in such a purchase. While you may be getting the car for under $100K, After a few years of maintenance, it'll potentially add up to $100k.

Just some rounded figures, based on those who have owned older GTRs:

Oil change $150 - $200
Every 18k miles you need
- Transmission service $1k
- Differential Fluid every 18k miles, at $50/quart
Change Rotors and Pads $8k - $10k
Replacing Transmission - $15-20k

That's obviously not a full list of maintenance. Can probably go cheaper if using Aftermarket parts, and do it outside of dealerships, if that's the risk you're ok with.

kittens 05-23-2016 02:59 PM

Wow I knew GTR maintenance was expensive, but 8-10k for brakes:eek:

edk370 05-24-2016 09:36 AM

I had no idea the brakes and rotors were that expensive.

The oil change isn't anything magical, so $100 or less if you go to Pep Boys and get their synthetic specials.

'Replace transmission' is not maintenance. That's no different than saying "replace engine." If this is the case, then this is a "disposable car." I would stay away from GT-R. Porsches, as long as you don't hammer them, won't fall apart like this. Ditto for Corvettes.

Chuck33079 05-24-2016 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by edk370 (Post 3485755)
I had no idea the brakes and rotors were that expensive.

The oil change isn't anything magical, so $100 or less if you go to Pep Boys and get their synthetic specials.

'Replace transmission' is not maintenance. That's no different than saying "replace engine." If this is the case, then this is a "disposable car." I would stay away from GT-R. Porsches, as long as you don't hammer them, won't fall apart like this. Ditto for Corvettes.

Replacing the transmission isn't normal, but it is something to consider with early GTRs. Even if you don't have to replace it, the annual tranny fluid swap costs a lot. It needs 10 quarts of fluid at $85 a quart.

Going from what I've seen on gtrlife, if you diy you can get the brake costs down to only $3-4k. :rofl2:

edk370 05-24-2016 10:03 AM

^So I guess there's a tradeoff in having a $100K supercar but the maintenance is expensive.

I'd go with a NA Porsche 911 or Vette C7 stock. GT-R is just too expensive to upkeep. And plus, its insurance is expensive too.

Chuck33079 05-24-2016 10:05 AM

The maintenance is comparable with other cars that perform like it, not cars that share a similar purchase price.

Nixin 05-24-2016 10:07 AM

With Nissan choosing to make the GTR a 2+2, insurance may be better than most vehicles in this class. Make certain you do your research when getting insurance quotes as they do very from company to company on the exact same vehicle.

gonzales25 05-24-2016 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ZHighlander (Post 3485201)
The Maintenance costs should not be ignored in such a purchase. While you may be getting the car for under $100K, After a few years of maintenance, it'll potentially add up to $100k.

Just some rounded figures, based on those who have owned older GTRs:

Oil change $150 - $200
Every 18k miles you need
- Transmission service $1k
- Differential Fluid every 18k miles, at $50/quart
Change Rotors and Pads $8k - $10k
Replacing Transmission - $15-20k

That's obviously not a full list of maintenance. Can probably go cheaper if using Aftermarket parts, and do it outside of dealerships, if that's the risk you're ok with.


I had a GTR and agree with every thing on this list except the brakes not that expensive by a long shot they don't come with carbon ceramic brakes.

Chuck33079 05-24-2016 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by gonzales25 (Post 3485931)
I had a GTR and agree with every thing on this list except the brakes not that expensive by a long shot they don't come with carbon ceramic brakes.

I saw that it was somewhere around $3k if you DIY, $5k at the dealer. Is that accurate?

gonzales25 05-24-2016 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3485946)
I saw that it was somewhere around $3k if you DIY, $5k at the dealer. Is that accurate?

Yea between $2-3K DIY and $5K sounds about right at the dealer they always mark it up. I paid $1800 for a front drive shaft at the dealer, mine broke when I launched and got to much wheel hop. Some things are expensive to fix and some aren't.

ZHighlander 05-24-2016 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by gonzales25 (Post 3485931)
I had a GTR and agree with every thing on this list except the brakes not that expensive by a long shot they don't come with carbon ceramic brakes.

As I don't have one, I was taking the info from some GTR owner's posts, so feel free to update with more up-to-date pricing.


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