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Colton370z 04-12-2016 11:05 AM

V6 Camaro vs 370z?
 
I bought a new 2015 V6 RS Manual Transmission Camaro and it has given me nothing but problems. GM is refusing to hardly work on the thing anymore even though it is under warranty. I am trying to lemon law it, but if I get a new Camaro replacement from them, I don't want to keep it. GM is a monster and I would like to go back to foreign. Has anyone here had a 5th gen Camaro and then switched to a 370z? What are the pro's and con's that I would be faced with? I think the 2 biggest things are the fact the Z is half the size of a Camaro and the trunk space is really small...The size of the car would take some getting used to. Although, the build quality is much better I am sure.

Thoughts would be great! Thanks!

FairladyZ40th 04-12-2016 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Colton370z (Post 3457425)
I bought a new 2015 V6 RS Manual Transmission Camaro and it has given me nothing but problems. GM is refusing to hardly work on the thing anymore even though it is under warranty. I am trying to lemon law it, but if I get a new Camaro replacement from them, I don't want to keep it. GM is a monster and I would like to go back to foreign. Has anyone here had a 5th gen Camaro and then switched to a 370z? What are the pro's and con's that I would be faced with? I think the 2 biggest things are the fact the Z is half the size of a Camaro and the trunk space is really small...The size of the car would take some getting used to. Although, the build quality is much better I am sure.



Thoughts would be great! Thanks!



The cons the Z has brought up are pretty much easy fixes that you would eventually get rid of on your journey to building your Z. These issues include but are not limited to the CSC giving out; this issue is fixed with the HD CSC from Z1motorsports or the CSC elimination kit, most members did it all along with a clutch upgrade kit. Then you have the steering wheel lock which is usually a module issue also a quick fix. And lastly there's the fuel starvation which there's someone selling a different pump that solves that issue but it's no biggie if you don't upgrade.

Personally I've smoked many RS camaros on the track and the V8s where the only challenge but the weight really slows them down, their size adds more drag and the V8 muscles cars are usually only good for short quick acceleration and suck on long high speed runs.

I would recommend Asian cars because they have a beautiful balance of acceleration, control and speed. This balance makes them unique and one of a kind when it comes to racing if you think about it. A muscle car is for drag racing more than anything and hyper cars are good for long high speeds? Haha that's how I see it.

Yes you have less space to work with but you end up with a pretty sexy car overall. Alternatively you could wait for the Nismo Maxima they're going to release pretty soon. It's going to future a 3.5L V6 Nismo tunes with Nismo body kits if you're trying to get a 4-door though it doesn't compare to a Z ;).

Go with a Z man. You won't regret it, plus all those cars (mustang, Camaro, challenger, charger, corvette etc) are WAY too tail happy and is almost a guaranteed wreck. Just throwing it out there. Hope my $0.02 helps haha. Either way enjoy your new ride and have fun! Don't forget to post pics of the new member! ;)

FairladyZ40th 04-12-2016 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Colton370z (Post 3457425)
I bought a new 2015 V6 RS Manual Transmission Camaro and it has given me nothing but problems. GM is refusing to hardly work on the thing anymore even though it is under warranty. I am trying to lemon law it, but if I get a new Camaro replacement from them, I don't want to keep it. GM is a monster and I would like to go back to foreign. Has anyone here had a 5th gen Camaro and then switched to a 370z? What are the pro's and con's that I would be faced with? I think the 2 biggest things are the fact the Z is half the size of a Camaro and the trunk space is really small...The size of the car would take some getting used to. Although, the build quality is much better I am sure.



Thoughts would be great! Thanks!



Also getting an RS Camaro simply means that you get all the cosmetics of the SS put on a basic Camaro. So there's no real performance gain on an RS. You may as well go for an SS, I believe? If someone could verify that'd be awesome. Haha

DIGItonium 04-12-2016 11:43 AM

This is your chance to go test drive some cars and find out what you feel comfortable with. We like our Z's. It's not perfect, but it's a fun modding platform. If your intent is to do some simple mods like exhaust, stereo, wheels, etc., it's quite nice with the Z. You can also fit some seriously fat tires, slight drop, and end up with a sweet stance without going too crazy.

I can't tell you to straight up impulse buy the Z. Just test drive it and give yourself some time before finalizing your next purchase on anything.

No car is perfect...

FairladyZ40th 04-12-2016 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 3457470)
This is your chance to go test drive some cars and find out what you feel comfortable with. We like our Z's. It's not perfect, but it's a fun modding platform. If your intent is to do some simple mods like exhaust, stereo, wheels, etc., it's quite nice with the Z. You can also fit some seriously fat tires, slight drop, and end up with a sweet stance without going too crazy.

I can't tell you to straight up impulse buy the Z. Just test drive it and give yourself some time before finalizing your next purchase on anything.

No car is perfect...



Yeah man that's true hahaa I gave you some lame advice by telling you to buy the Z then again I'm an impulsive being lol.

DIGItonium 04-12-2016 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by FairladyZ40th (Post 3457479)
Yeah man that's true hahaa I gave you some lame advice by telling you to buy the Z then again I'm an impulsive being lol.

We've all been there :bowrofl:

[EDIT] Oh snaps, OP... where in KS are you? I'm in Wichita. Selling my car is in the back of my mind, but it's a project on its own. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like the photo below. I removed the front lip. The side is messed up. Roads here... argh!!! Just looking for reasonable offers.

Colton370z 04-12-2016 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 3457470)
This is your chance to go test drive some cars and find out what you feel comfortable with. We like our Z's. It's not perfect, but it's a fun modding platform. If your intent is to do some simple mods like exhaust, stereo, wheels, etc., it's quite nice with the Z. You can also fit some seriously fat tires, slight drop, and end up with a sweet stance without going too crazy.

I can't tell you to straight up impulse buy the Z. Just test drive it and give yourself some time before finalizing your next purchase on anything.

No car is perfect...

For sure. I am going to lose some cash from eating the depreciation on the Camaro so, I really have to win on this next car and keep it for 3 or 4 years for it to be worth it. I have a test drive set up with the Nissan dealership here on Saturday. It's a sport tech edition in white. I will go in with an open mind and try to forget the feel of a larger car with an aggressive look and enjoy the more elegant style of the Z for what it is. It is also a manual transmission so that will be fun. How good is the stock clutch/manual tranny on Z/s? Do you guys normally upgrade that? I think my biggest question is, how reliable is this car? Have you Z owners had any serious issues with your 370s? How many miles do you guys have on them? I imagine since this car is heavily modded by many people that it can really take a beating and is designed to last a long time. I 100% believe foreign makes are put together much better than american cars ever will be.

Colton370z 04-12-2016 11:59 AM

@DIGItonium I am in Hutchinson. I will be going to the Wichita Nissan dealership Saturday!

Nixin 04-12-2016 12:28 PM

I test drove a Camaro SS before I bought my Z. I loved the power of the Chevy V8. However, the car felt really heavy and cumbersome. I didn't feel connected to the car or the road. Trade that Camaro in asap for something that you like and will enjoy. No doubt, you will loose money on the trade. You can chalk that up to a lesson learned. Schooling is not cheap but what is eventual happiness worth to you? Good luck.

GOBLUE 04-12-2016 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Colton370z (Post 3457486)
@DIGItonium I am in Hutchinson. I will be going to the Wichita Nissan dealership Saturday!

Good luck on the test drive! I've test driven the new Camaro and Mustang, and I still love my Z and wouldn't give it up. It's really a flavor thing, and whether you need the extra 2 seats. As a true sports car, I prefer the balance of the Z. It just fits me better. But if you need the space, or want that V8 power, I'm sure you'll be happy with the Camaro or Mustang. I can't really comment on GM quality vs. Nissan quality, but it sounds like you're having a crappy time there. I've had no issues with my Z, including the convertible top (knocking on wood now). Anyhow, good luck and have fun!

SouthArk370Z 04-12-2016 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Colton370z (Post 3457485)
... I think my biggest question is, how reliable is this car? Have you Z owners had any serious issues with your 370s? How many miles do you guys have on them? I imagine since this car is heavily modded by many people that it can really take a beating and is designed to last a long time. I 100% believe foreign makes are put together much better than american cars ever will be.

Most cars today are very reliable. But you can quickly trash any car if you drive it like you stole it. Drive a Z like you have some sense and it can last well over 100k miles. Several threads on this site about high-mileage Zs.

As has been pointed out, the 370Z CSC is prone to failure. The steering lock (easy fix if you disable it if before it fails) was deleted sometime in 2010 MY, so it's only a problem with early models. Motor/trans/diff seem to be pretty rugged and can hold up to some serious mods. Cabin noise is pretty loud but the right tires can be a big help; sound damping can be added if you like a quiet interior. Stock radio is pretty crappy; Bose is (arguably) pretty good but may be a bit under-powered if you like your music loud. Handling is an order of magnitude better than Challenger/Mustang/Camaro - they may out run you in the quarter, but you'll wax their a$$es in the corners.

DIGItonium 04-12-2016 12:55 PM

I don't have any issues with domestics. The new cars look great, but the cars are too big for me.

Some of us upgraded the clutch and slave. The stock setup is too soft and feels a bit numb, but that's because I'm used to the heavier feeling. Whatever it is, the Z has very good aftermarket potential.

You're welcome to come check out my car after you've tested a bone stock Z. Just be warned, though... once you hear and feel a conservatively boosted Z you won't go back :D

Colton370z 04-12-2016 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3457540)
Most cars today are very reliable. But you can quickly trash any car if you drive it like you stole it. Drive a Z like you have some sense and it can last well over 100k miles. Several threads on this site about high-mileage Zs.

As has been pointed out, the 370Z CSC is prone to failure. The steering lock (easy fix if you disable it if before it fails) was deleted sometime in 2010 MY, so it's only a problem with early models. Motor/trans/diff seem to be pretty rugged and can hold up to some serious mods. Cabin noise is pretty loud but the right tires can be a big help; sound damping can be added if you like a quiet interior. Stock radio is pretty crappy; Bose is (arguably) pretty good but may be a bit under-powered if you like your music loud. Handling is an order of magnitude better than Challenger/Mustang/Camaro - they may out run you in the quarter, but you'll wax their a$$es in the corners.


Should I get a used 370z from a previous year or should I just get a new 2016 Z? A lot of kinks should be worked out in the 2016 models, right? Has anything changed in the 2016's that you guys know of?

Colton370z 04-12-2016 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 3457542)
I don't have any issues with domestics. The new cars look great, but the cars are too big for me.

Some of us upgraded the clutch and slave. The stock setup is too soft and feels a bit numb, but that's because I'm used to the heavier feeling. Whatever it is, the Z has very good aftermarket potential.

You're welcome to come check out my car after you've tested a bone stock Z. Just be warned, though... once you hear and feel a conservatively boosted Z you won't go back :D

I might just do that! I will let you know man!

Mancub 04-12-2016 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Colton370z (Post 3457543)
Should I get a used 370z from a previous year or should I just get a new 2016 Z? A lot of kinks should be worked out in the 2016 models, right? Has anything changed in the 2016's that you guys know of?

I was looking used vs new myself. Financing turned me to buy new.

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