Man, with all the past engine issues with the WRX STI (top ring land breakage, which usually means a new motor ... just google the top ring land problem), I'd personally stay away from it. Not to mention the cheap plastic "low rent" interior. The G35 and G37 w/ 6-spd manual would definitely be on my short list. Problem is you can't get AWD with 6-spd manual trans. Therefore, my top choice in the 4-DR sporty category would be...... the Acura TL Sport with AWD and 6-spd manual trans. Best of all worlds! Plus it looks great with leather appointed interior and has 305 hp engine. Your wife will love you!

The ej257 isn't a very methodically thought out engine. With that being said, have you seen the new STI interior? It was a whole lot better than the Z I just traded in, (base) the value aspect of the STI is whats amazing about it. If I were OP I'd get a wrx.


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meh, i dont agree with dat. the engine is quite mature now and the new interior is actually quite nice. it's not a glamorous interior like a lexus but it's not how u described it.

and LOL'ed at TL reference. u need to get your car guy head checked. a TL? seriously? :rofl2:

Seriously. Lol. Like I said, as a family car (which some Millenials, not all, who haven't gotten out of mom and dad's house wouldn't understand) with a decent amount of room for the kids, it's great. And the wife would probably love it. You guys are referencing new or one year old Sub's. Didn't know we were talking new year models. Changes the game a little bit, don't you think?

Lol lol. But seriously, me having a 8 month old myself, spacious interior and storage is looking more important all of the sudden.

Just an update. After test driving 2 Mazdaspeed3s (gen1 and gen2) and 2 GTIs (Mk6 and Mk7), I ended up with a CPO 2013 candy white Mk6 GTI Driver's Edition. It has only 8,400 miles on it with all service records. The Speed3s are great cars, however, they are harder to live with as a DD. Overall, the VWs are just more refine.

After the VW scam/affair with their emissions systems, I think VW is more misleading than anything else. Who knows, you may even get some sort of compensation or settlement if your vehicle is part of the scandal.:stirthepot:

What are everybody's thoughts on the Subaru Outback (a newer one)? I'm thinking of getting one to replace me Jeep.

I'd much rather have a WRX, but it's darn-near impossible to find a used one near me that's low-mileage, reasonably priced, and not beaten to death. Plus, the insurance is a little more than I'd want to pay (in addition to the Z anyways).

Gas mileage is **** and everything is crappy plastic.

Wife has a 2015 Subaru Forester. Interior is about average in its class. So, I believe the more expensive Outback can only be better. The 2.5 NA we have is also used in the base Outback. Our MPG is about 24 with 60% city and 40% hwy in DC/MD/VA. In comparison, the 2005 Toyota Matrix it replaced gave me 22.

All wheel drive all the time and extremely reliable.