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Spstone 01-13-2016 11:29 AM

Pulled over for speeding
 
Got pulled over yesterday for doing 39 in a 35. Cop explained to me I have to be aware that my car will be targeted due to appeance than asked a bunch of questions. Turned out he's got a 300ZX TT and was a die hard Z guy and really just wanted a closer look. Still had me freaking out my insurance was about to skyrocket.

birdman71 01-13-2016 11:35 AM

Go to traffic school before you pay the ticket

you will have to pay the fine for the ticket, but a point won't be put onto your record and insurance rates won't go up. At least that is how it works here in CA. I work for State Farm Insurance so this is something I would know about.
And yeah our cars are definitely targeted a lot more because of look and sound. I'm sure the cop was a Z guy but gave you a ticket for speeding because he was jealous he has a 300zx and not a newer 370z haha.

Also did he catch you on a radar gun? very specific speed for a cop to say to someone.

street2soul 01-13-2016 11:38 AM

id be surprised if you actually got a ticket..

Array 01-13-2016 11:39 AM

Doesn't sound like he got hit more of a funny story with a cop and his Z

Wish the cops around here appreciated the vehicle scene...

Spstone 01-13-2016 11:51 AM

He gave me a warning. Just wanted to share because I found it interesting when it was all said in done.

mishuko 01-13-2016 12:00 PM

i think the a big reason was the attitude you had when he came to you. come off as a **** they will throw the book at you.

there has been numerous numbers of cases for and against cops being jerks here.

in canada 10 or under you can get away with. if it's over 10 they are obligated to pull you over.

cooltoy 01-13-2016 12:50 PM

Isn't it 10% not 10 km? I think there is a 10% error in radar guns and they could get thrown out of court if the ticket is for less then 10% of the speed limit.

Justice97 01-13-2016 12:55 PM

Nice.

I had one cop tell me to fight it. He then told me he never goes in to court. He was really apologetic because of the policy they were running at the time. I made him laugh while he was writing the ticket and I guess he just felt bad that I was handling it with class. Not all cops are jerks, and not all speeders are ********. I was doing 41 in a 30 in my Taurus. He didn't show i argued and they dropped it.

Glad your cop was a z fan.

edk370 01-13-2016 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by birdman71 (Post 3387365)
Go to traffic school before you pay the ticket

you will have to pay the fine for the ticket, but a point won't be put onto your record and insurance rates won't go up. At least that is how it works here in CA. I work for State Farm Insurance so this is something I would know about.
And yeah our cars are definitely targeted a lot more because of look and sound. I'm sure the cop was a Z guy but gave you a ticket for speeding because he was jealous he has a 300zx and not a newer 370z haha.

Also did he catch you on a radar gun? very specific speed for a cop to say to someone.

Hey lemme ask you something. I got a 09 Honda Fit right. And I got state farm insurance. I used to pay under 400 every 6 months. And now I'm at 450+ for the same coverage. I argued with them. But she said "because your car is low in numbers out there, the cost to repair it got more expensive, and hence the increase in your rate...." I got no accidents, tickets, etc. and I think this is BS. Is what she said justified?

Thanks, and sorry to digress.

FPenvy 01-13-2016 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Spstone (Post 3387378)
He gave me a warning. Just wanted to share because I found it interesting when it was all said in done.

reminds me of a time I got popped about 2 years ago.

I was doing 93 in 55.....

luckily cop was a car guy. talked y ear off about the car and I still had my car number from the drag strip on the windshield so that sparked more conversation.

ended up with a moving violation of sorts. no points and I believe it was $150 fine.

told me to hurry home to make it back in time for the Pens game :driving:

edk370 01-13-2016 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Spstone (Post 3387378)
He gave me a warning. Just wanted to share because I found it interesting when it was all said in done.

After he let you go, you should've dropped the clutch and do a burnout:rofl2:

njobe89 01-13-2016 01:23 PM

being nice and respectful can go only so far. i've have talked to a lot of cops and even still play basketball with some. i had one tell me that on a day that he was forced to work (he had tickets to go to a game, but got called in) he handed out the most tickets he ever did. he stopped everyone for anything he could lol.

while it can pay to be nice, just because you're nice doesn't mean you won't get the full ticket. however, it is better then being an arse and leading it somewhere else.

when stopped i just answer yes or no sir. nothing more nothing less.

mishuko 01-13-2016 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cooltoy (Post 3387453)
Isn't it 10% not 10 km? I think there is a 10% error in radar guns and they could get thrown out of court if the ticket is for less then 10% of the speed limit.

well the major highways that post 100 if you're doing 120 it's not an issue aslong as you're not weaving/tailgating too hard.

i can't remember where i heard that but i'm pretty sure it's 10kmh.

30 and 40 are majors

50+ is 'racing' (regardless if you are alone or not) or relabelled as 'stunt driving' and get a 7 day impound,7 days in slammer, 10k fine, 30 day impound, 50000000 demerits, and a wack of but hurt.

oh they also have some other qwerky rules for what they classify stunting. like ripping a left with no advance when a light turns green :shakes head:

axmea? 01-13-2016 01:47 PM

Glad you got off a ticket.

An officer pulled me over. I readily took accountability because I knew what I did. Long story short, he pulled me over simply to get a closer look and ask what exhaust I had on. We then started talking about cars and Z's at that point. We exchanged business cards and that's it.

sp911 01-13-2016 02:20 PM

got pulled over for doing 4 miles over the speed limit?! yikes, I do double that before getting to the stop sign at the send of my street. seriously, I'm definitely not a crazy or fast driver but that's crazy. I've gotten a ticket for doing 79 in a 55 (out of state) but only warnings for 39 in a 25 and 69 in a 55. definitely depends on the cop and yes not all are bad. neither of those were in my z by the way.

barncobob 01-13-2016 02:45 PM

traffic school online is way to go, I got a ticket took1.5 hrs online...3weeks later my girlfriend got ticket..i already knew the answers took 30 minutes and I gotta ALOT of brownie points for that one..:rofl2:

birdman71 01-13-2016 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by cooltoy (Post 3387453)
Isn't it 10% not 10 km? I think there is a 10% error in radar guns and they could get thrown out of court if the ticket is for less then 10% of the speed limit.

In, California cops have to have a certification for Radar Gun Calibration with them, because cops have figured out ways to ramp up the speed that it reads on a car to write a ticket. Otherwise if they pull you over and say they shot you on the radar gun doing like 88 in a 65 and they don't have the certification, I get to tell them to have a nice day and roll up my window and proceed without their opinion afterward. Of course if you just take off and say bye they are going to think you are running. I have had a phrase memorized for a while cause I was pulled over 3 times for "speeding" and they all shot me on the radar and none of them had the certification.

"Officer, I understand your rationalization for pulling me over this [morning,afternoon,evening] but due to State of California regulations, all Radar Guns have to be calibrated and officers of the law using a radar gun must carry the Radar Guns Certification and must furnish documentation if requested by the Driver. If the officer is unable to furnish the documentation for the Radar Gun Calibration then there is no infraction due to the Radar Gun not being calibrated. Have a great rest of your day officer!"

They are supposed to say Have a good day back and leave, but if they give you issues you start recording.

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Originally Posted by edk370 (Post 3387482)
After he let you go, you should've dropped the clutch and do a burnout:rofl2:

That's when you get the 4 point ticket haha. Exhibition of Speed (burnout) and wreak less driving. Both worth 2 point in CA at least hahah.

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Originally Posted by sp911 (Post 3387549)
got pulled over for doing 4 miles over the speed limit?! yikes, I do double that before getting to the stop sign at the send of my street. seriously, I'm definitely not a crazy or fast driver but that's crazy. I've gotten a ticket for doing 79 in a 55 (out of state) but only warnings for 39 in a 25 and 69 in a 55. definitely depends on the cop and yes not all are bad. neither of those were in my z by the way.

no wonder, they weren't in your Z haha


Quote:

Originally Posted by edk370 (Post 3387479)
Hey lemme ask you something. I got a 09 Honda Fit right. And I got state farm insurance. I used to pay under 400 every 6 months. And now I'm at 450+ for the same coverage. I argued with them. But she said "because your car is low in numbers out there, the cost to repair it got more expensive, and hence the increase in your rate...." I got no accidents, tickets, etc. and I think this is BS. Is what she said justified?

Thanks, and sorry to digress.

Kind of not really. Now I am licensed in CA for everything except Mortgages and Mutual Funds, done lots of extra work to be where I am, but what you were talking about was something State Farm does on a national level most of the time. So i'll do my best to help you out here.

1 thing that happens when cars do get older or there aren't many around anymore, prices for replacement parts do go up since State Farm uses OEM parts in replacement during a claim. If the replacement parts for a car go up in price or become harder to find classifications for the car go up causing a slight increase in premium. That more than likely ISN'T the bulk of that premium increase you saw.

On June 22nd 2015 State farm had incurred a 5% rate increase across the board; now I know that was the percentage in increase for CA. I have had to handle a lot of customers calling in about the same issue you had though, I know a rate increase seems unfair, but from CA standpoint I looked at Average Rates and the last 20 years worth of rate increase/decrease and this is the first rate increase that State Farm has seen in just over 15 years.


Ill PM you some options you can look at to help premiums for you hopefully.

MagmaRed370z 01-13-2016 03:27 PM

Nice cop. You are lucky. Some cops are jealous and they will give you the ticket.

cinderblocked 01-14-2016 06:27 AM

phew, lot of weird information in this thread.

speaking as someone who has been on both sides of those flashing lights..


what I'm about to say goes for Canada only, as I don't have experience in the US. You should never speed, but WHEN you do, because everyone does it, try to avoid going 15 over. It depends on your province, detachment, mood of the officer, mood of the officers boss etc.

if and when you get pulled over, turn the car off, turn your music off, roll down your window in advance, have your license, permit(registration) and proof of insurance out. this includes taking them out of whatever little plastic protector you keep them in.

be polite, but don't say anything obviously incriminating. don't make excuses. If any other Canadians ave questions feel free to shoot me a pm

kenchan 01-14-2016 06:39 AM

I've had this happen too not in my z but in my other hobby cars in the past..

JARblue 01-14-2016 07:27 AM

I had this happen in the Z although I was speeding pretty good. Warning for 48 in a 35 mph frontage road just before entering the highway. He didn't talk my ear off or anything, but he was definitely into it and gave several compliments :tup:

I even gave some stupid excuse like I was speeding up to merge on the freeway, and here I am pulled over on a half mile long single lane entrance ramp :ugh: He said "yeah right ... this car probably gets up to highway speed in 2nd gear" :rolleyes: I gave him a sheepish look and said I could get her up to about 60 mph in 2nd if I wanted :icon17:

Dirk McGurck 01-14-2016 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by mishuko (Post 3387384)
i think the a big reason was the attitude you had when he came to you. come off as a **** they will throw the book at you

This. I've never been fined for the actual speed I was traveling, just the minimum amount.

I drop my windows, have my wallet and paperwork on the dashboard in full view, radio/car off, hands on the steering wheel when he walks up, so he has a full view of my hands and is put more at ease.

Then I speak in a respectful tone. Not being a **** does wonders for interactions with people.

Pearl zed 01-14-2016 08:14 AM

My best ticket story... 3 tickets in one day in 3 separate states in 2 time zones
while driving across country in an RX7.

Ghostvette 01-14-2016 08:42 AM

Respectful is always the key. I got out of a 'go to jail' ticket (100+ in a 75) by pulling over as safely as I could, shutting everything down and having paperwork ready. The sheriff asked me if I knew why he was stopping me and I said "yes, I did something stupid". He told me what he had me on radar for and I asked him if he wanted me to exit the vehicle. He said 'no, I'm only going to write you for 'basic speed'. It's a $185 ticket.' I said thank you. 15 minutes later, I'm on my way to Wichita. Now he flashes his lights and waves to me when I pass where he sets up. :)

Apex2Apex 01-14-2016 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edk370 (Post 3387479)
Hey lemme ask you something. I got a 09 Honda Fit right. And I got state farm insurance. I used to pay under 400 every 6 months. And now I'm at 450+ for the same coverage. I argued with them. But she said "because your car is low in numbers out there, the cost to repair it got more expensive, and hence the increase in your rate...." I got no accidents, tickets, etc. and I think this is BS. Is what she said justified?

Thanks, and sorry to digress.

When I was shopping for a new motorcycle I narrowed it down to a Yamaha R6 and a Ducati 848. When I got insurance quotes the R6 was more expensive, even though the 848 costs more (not to mention it costs more to repair). The explanation I received was that the R6 is more popular and has more "incidents of claims" than the Ducati.

Go figure.

birdman71 01-14-2016 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Apex2Apex (Post 3388118)
When I was shopping for a new motorcycle I narrowed it down to a Yamaha R6 and a Ducati 848. When I got insurance quotes the R6 was more expensive, even though the 848 costs more (not to mention it costs more to repair). The explanation I received was that the R6 is more popular and has more "incidents of claims" than the Ducati.

Go figure.

That's another thing, most states run their insurance as a whole and fluctuates its rates on cars based on the amount of claims for the car. It could be easily that rates didn't go up because parts are harder to get but more or less more people who have your exact same car crashed this year lol.

Jayhovah 01-15-2016 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by birdman71 (Post 3388169)
That's another thing, most states run their insurance as a whole and fluctuates its rates on cars based on the amount of claims for the car. It could be easily that rates didn't go up because parts are harder to get but more or less more people who have your exact same car crashed this year lol.

You gotta' PM =)

barncobob 01-15-2016 05:03 PM

i got out of last ticket for my Nam license plate and frame, he mentioned it and said have a nice day and thanks for serving

vividracing 01-15-2016 05:49 PM

My Evo X draws a lot of attention and I am always with the flow of traffic on the hwy or the speed limit on local roads. Glad there are cops like that out there.

birdman71 01-15-2016 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhovah (Post 3389345)
You gotta' PM =)

Replied brotha!

Quote:

Originally Posted by barncobob (Post 3389389)
i got out of last ticket for my Nam license plate and frame, he mentioned it and said have a nice day and thanks for serving

:iagree: Thank you for serving

I have a license plate frame that will be mine until I leave it to someone else, probably my kid in the future, like my dad for me.
It is a Lifetime Member 11-99 Foundation License Plate Frame. For everyone who knows what that is and what it's for you know where I'm going with this haha :stirthepot:

But the 11-99 Foundation was a Charity organization where people could donate to the California Highway Patrol (CHP) to help and provide emergency service to CHP officers and families in crisis. Those are also the officers that mainly patrol freeways and are the ones that run those long 18 hour shifts you hear about from cops. There were 4 levels of charity to this organization.

-Classic: $2,500 for yourself + $1,000 for spouse
-Bronze Tier: $5,000 + $1,500 for spouse
-Silver Tier: $10,000 Spouse included
-Gold Tier: $25,000 Spouse Included

My dad ended up in 2004 donating the Gold Tier amount to the 11-99 Foundation. To this day he still has the wall plaque signed and dated by Spike Helmnick who was the Police Commissioner back then, the Laser engraved Brass 11-99 Foudation ID inside a Wallet with a slot where my dad keeps his Insurance ID cards. He puts his Drivers License on top of the wallet with the brass ID and the Insurance ID cards, with registration underneath.

I use the License plate frame on my car and have done so since I got my license 3 and a half years ago. I have had 3 separate CHP officers on the freeway, pull me over for something and would ask about the license plate frame and would tell me "Thank you for your contribution to our foundation", tip their head/hat and walk off.

I've also know that that license plate frame has gotten me warnings and plenty of times where cops have gotten behind me get really close to run my plates, saw the license plate frame, change lanes to the side of me and drives off.

There was one time my dad told me that he was sadly.. driving drunk, and a CHP pulled him over and probably should have gone to jail that night, but when the officers saw his 11-99 Foundation Badge they gave him a police escort home.

Being respectful is the best way to win with the law. :tiphat: :driving:

Spooler 01-15-2016 11:14 PM

You guys are lucky. If I get pulled, I get a ticket. End of story. I have no luck.

2Zs4me 01-18-2016 02:48 AM

Got pulled over in my 93 TTZ for expired plates last year on Veterans Day. Cop said he wouldn't have even noticed my plates but was admiring the car as it drove by. He saw the veteran emblem on my drivers license and wished me a happy veterans day as he gave me my ticket.

JC-Nismo 01-18-2016 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 2Zs4me (Post 3390641)
Got pulled over in my 93 TTZ for expired plates last year on Veterans Day. Cop said he wouldn't have even noticed my plates but was admiring the car as it drove by. He saw the veteran emblem on my drivers license and wished me a happy veterans day as he gave me my ticket.

I would've told him to "Kiss Azz"!!!

Spstone 01-18-2016 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Zs4me (Post 3390641)
Got pulled over in my 93 TTZ for expired plates last year on Veterans Day. Cop said he wouldn't have even noticed my plates but was admiring the car as it drove by. He saw the veteran emblem on my drivers license and wished me a happy veterans day as he gave me my ticket.

That is just kind of **** move. I never expect any thing, to me it's just a job but it seems kind of dickesh to me.

I got pulled over the night I got home from my second deployment for an illegal right on red that had changed during the 12 months I was gone. In uniform bags in the back. When the officer asked me if I saw the sign and informed me it had been a no right on red for 6 months now I respectfully replied sorry sir I've been in Iraq for the last 12 months and did not know it had changed, and apologized for missing the non-lighted sign at midnight. Dude wrote me ticket and said, "Well even war heros need to follow the law."

That was actually my only bad run in with a police officer. I'm always respectful and leave my hands on the wheel until the officer asks for my paperwork. I don't want him to see me shuffling around and be worried I'm reaching for some thing. I always start the conversation with letting the officer know I'm carrying and wear my weapon currently is located. So far its always turned out well for me.

Dirk McGurck 01-18-2016 07:52 AM

Jeez, Spstone, that was a dickish move by that officer, too.

TexasChuck 01-18-2016 09:04 AM

Veterans Day
 
I got a laugh outta that one. My veterans license plate holder didn't help me in Colorado either.
Cheers


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