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Mr Pinchy 12-20-2015 07:02 PM

Adding oil to new Z?
 
I bought a new Z in September and it has 2600 miles on it. I had to add a half quart of oil today. Oil level was almost at bottom indicator hole on dipstick. It was in the middle the last time I checked a couple weeks ago. Is this normal for a new engine? Thanks for your help.

Spooler 12-20-2015 07:04 PM

The rings need to seat. Since you are so close to 3000 miles on a new engine I would go ahead and change the oil. Hope you followed the break in procedure.

kenchan 12-20-2015 07:40 PM

Took my Z about 15k miles to stop burning oil completely..

I was adding about 1/2 quart early on between my annual oil changes
Was the same way on my G.

God-Speed 12-20-2015 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3372519)
The rings need to seat. Since you are so close to 3000 miles on a new engine I would go ahead and change the oil. Hope you followed the break in procedure.

:iagree::iagree:

POS VETT 12-20-2015 07:59 PM

Have you been babying the Z?

dvboy 12-20-2015 08:09 PM

I have the same issue with my new Z,at 7000k it's getting better.Went through almost a full quart at the 5000k mark when I got my first oil change.Since then I have put 2000k on it and the dipstick is down about 1/16 of an inch,so it appears to be getting better.At this stage don't panic,don't run the car hard when the motor is cold,that can really burn oil through the rings.

barncobob 12-20-2015 08:32 PM

new 2016, changed oil at 1200miles with Nissan ester oil ,,will change again at 6 months/5000mi to keep warranty going...figure ill be at 5K miles and will switch to redline+ Purolator PSL14610 full synthetic.

onzedge 12-20-2015 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3372519)
The rings need to seat. Since you are so close to 3000 miles on a new engine I would go ahead and change the oil. Hope you followed the break in procedure.

:iagree:

onzedge 12-20-2015 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3372558)
Took my Z about 15k miles to stop burning oil completely..

I was adding about 1/2 quart early on between my annual oil changes
Was the same way on my G.

:iagree:

evil370z 12-20-2015 09:21 PM

i got my z last dec, first oil change at 1k miles, 2nd oil change at 4k, 3rd oil change 7k, etc, now it just hit 13k miles, obv syenthic mobil 1 oil from nissan. never had a issue with burning oil or low oil levels.

Mr Pinchy 12-20-2015 09:22 PM

Thanks everyone for the responses.

I did follow the break in instructions and keep the RPMs below 3000 until the oil comes to proper temperature. I still baby it, I guess, most of the time. I am usually driving around at 2500 to 3000 RPM most of the time with some bursts to around 5000 RPM. I don't sprint away from a stop. Just curious why I should change oil now plus at 5000 miles? My local dealer uses Mobile 1 which I will change over to at the first oil change. Is this a good oil to use or is something else better? Thanks

axmea? 12-20-2015 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pinchy (Post 3372655)
Thanks everyone for the responses.

I did follow the break in instructions and keep the RPMs below 3000 until the oil comes to proper temperature. I still baby it, I guess, most of the time. I am usually driving around at 2500 to 3000 RPM most of the time with some bursts to around 5000 RPM. I don't sprint away from a stop. Just curious why I should change oil now plus at 5000 miles? My local dealer uses Mobile 1 which I will change over to at the first oil change. Is this a good oil to use or is something else better? Thanks

You really don't need to. Many say this mainly for prevention but your car will absolutely be fine without a break in oil change. You had to ask what oil.

Welcome to the forum and enjoy your Z.

Spooler 12-20-2015 11:11 PM

That oil is fine. The biggest mistakes are made by not changing the oil on time/mileage and not checking the oil level regularly.

Rusty 12-20-2015 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 3372601)
:iagree:

:iagree:

Dreadnaught 12-20-2015 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pinchy (Post 3372518)
I bought a new Z in September and it has 2600 miles on it. I had to add a half quart of oil today. Oil level was almost at bottom indicator hole on dipstick. It was in the middle the last time I checked a couple weeks ago. Is this normal for a new engine? Thanks for your help.

Just to add to this guys, when I do Pre Delivery Inspections on brand new cars that just came off the truck at my dealer almost every car is not filled to the proper capacity that it should take per the owners manual. So, for some of you guys that just bought brand new Z's and are tripping on the fact that the car seems to be burning crazy amounts of oil when you go to check it. Relax. The car didn't get filled to capacity per the owners manual.

barncobob 12-21-2015 05:40 AM

i believe u have to change oil every 5K OR six months to keep engine under warranty, thats what dealer said

JARblue 12-21-2015 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pinchy (Post 3372655)
Just curious why I should change oil now plus at 5000 miles?

As mentioned, modern engines don't follow this same need quite like older vehicles. But the idea is that the break in period will be the period during which the most contaminants (mostly metal) are deposited into the oil because the engine parts are still wearing in. Ideally, you change the oil immediately after the break-in period to remove all these metal contaminants.

Lots of people like to do 3500 mile oil changes, so if you do the first change before 1500 miles, the next change should be around 5000 miles. I typically go with a 5K mile interval or shorter depending on how hard I drove the car during that period. My manual says 7500 miles for a normal interval.

JARblue 12-21-2015 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by barncobob (Post 3372759)
i believe u have to change oil every 5K OR six months to keep engine under warranty, thats what dealer said

Dealers are stupid. Even my manual says 7500 miles for OCI.

mishuko 12-21-2015 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barncobob (Post 3372759)
i believe u have to change oil every 5K OR six months to keep engine under warranty, thats what dealer said

there are 3 service schedules ranging from track/very heavy driving to highway and cruising and then dusty conditions. the high end has 7500 range...


anyways after 5000km i notice my car burns a bit of oil. my first change i went to a few hundred under 8000km. forgot how far after but was about middle on the stick and put in about half a quart? or so.

i change at 5000km now and the oil is only a bit under the H hole.

i check my oil/brake/clutch fluids for any changes. clutch fluid i expect to darken but should not change in level. brake shouldn't move.

Duc_Z09 12-21-2015 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by mishuko (Post 3372822)
i check my oil/brake/clutch fluids for any changes. clutch fluid i expect to darken but should not change in level. brake shouldn't move.

It will if your pads are worn down significantly. Most people make the mistake of just topping it off when it goes down.

D.Stillwell 12-21-2015 08:10 AM

I noticed that my Z burns a bit of oil but seems to be getting better like stated above

1st ever oil change done at 1500 miles = oil came out nasty and only ~3.8qts came out...filled with Amsoil synthetic.

2nd oil change at 5000 miles = oil came out pretty dark, got about 4.3qts out this time

Currently car is at 7500 miles and just added .2 qt yesterday to top off to proper level.

So, based on the burn rate it seems to be improving. Going from a full quart to what I expect will end up about .4 qt by the time my next oil change comes around at ~10k miles.

Based on this improvement, it should stop burning completely by right around the 15k oil change, like Kenchan stated above ^^

Mine might take until 20k, I've not babied it

mishuko 12-21-2015 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duc_Z09 (Post 3372826)
It will if your pads are worn down significantly. Most people make the mistake of just topping it off when it goes down.

that's correct. lol but i mean for most normal day-to-day you shouldnt see the micro movements.

my levels went up after they changed the pads and they drained a bit of the brake fluid.

kenchan 12-21-2015 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3372686)
That oil is fine. The biggest mistakes are made by not changing the oil on time/mileage and not checking the oil level regularly.

:iagree:

yah, some of u folks mentioned u never check ur oil level. it's really easy here's how to do it:

Step1: check oil level
Step2: done!

:tup:

kenchan 12-21-2015 10:15 AM

;) if ur car is completely cold just pull up the yellow handle dipstick. if the oil is at the top dot, u're fine. i kept the level at about 85-90% full for the first 2yrs as anything more would just keep burning off.

since the 3rd year i kept it at the top dot.

if ur engine is warm, pull up the yellow handle dip stick, wipe off the oil with a paper towel.
then dip it back in, count to 5, pull up to see where the oil is. dat's it. if near the bottom dot, add 1/2 quart of oil and repeat until you get the level at or near the top dot.

TerribleONE 12-21-2015 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3372958)
:iagree:

yah, some of u folks mentioned u never check ur oil level. it's really easy here's how to do it:

Step1: check oil level
Step2: done!

:tup:

Please make a DIY thread for this.

kenchan 12-21-2015 10:19 AM

it amazes me how many folks have cars like ours and dont know how to check engine oil level... or dont know how to do basic visual inspections.

kenchan 12-21-2015 10:20 AM

or dont know how to drive MT..

kenchan 12-21-2015 10:20 AM

or dont like sushi..

Spooler 12-21-2015 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3372963)
it amazes me how many folks have cars like ours and dont know how to check engine oil level... or dont know how to do basic visual inspections.

It is no surprise to me. I have seen a brand new Nissan Pathfinder come in with a rod/hole in the side of the block at 15K miles. The oil filter part number ended in a 1. That means the oil filter had never been changed. Service manager saw it and said, were gonna put a new long block in it anyway. So we did. It baffles me how many folks forget to check and change the oil in the correct amount of time/mileage.

Rusty 12-21-2015 11:27 AM

A guy I work with, bought a new vette with the z51 package. He didn't know how to check oil on it. He couldn't even find the dip stick. :shakes head: I had to show him the dip stick, and how to check oil with the dry sump system on the car. :shakes head: I knew more about his car then he did. :shakes head: And I don't even like vettes. Just goes to show you how stupid people are about their vehicles. Don't read the manual, just jump in and drive the wheels off of it. Complain about it when it breaks. :shakes head:

D.Stillwell 12-21-2015 12:12 PM

Most people use everything the same way, use it up and trash it. With as little maintenance as possible.

Duc_Z09 12-21-2015 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3373012)
A guy I work with, bought a new vette with the z51 package. He didn't know how to check oil on it. He couldn't even find the dip stick. :shakes head: I had to show him the dip stick, and how to check oil with the dry sump system on the car. :shakes head: I knew more about his car then he did. :shakes head: And I don't even like vettes. Just goes to show you how stupid people are about their vehicles. Don't read the manual, just jump in and drive the wheels off of it. Complain about it when it breaks. :shakes head:

No shocker there. I bet there are a lot of 'Vette owners who know f*cK-all about cars.:rofl2:

mishuko 12-22-2015 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3372966)
or dont like sushi..

honestly... the manual thing bothers me so much!!!

but this... THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE! unless you're alergic to fish :shakes head:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3373012)
A guy I work with, bought a new vette with the z51 package. He didn't know how to check oil on it. He couldn't even find the dip stick. :shakes head: I had to show him the dip stick, and how to check oil with the dry sump system on the car. :shakes head: I knew more about his car then he did. :shakes head: And I don't even like vettes. Just goes to show you how stupid people are about their vehicles. Don't read the manual, just jump in and drive the wheels off of it. Complain about it when it breaks. :shakes head:

honestly before the interwebz i would have sympathized more with noobs. now it's like... seriously just google 'HOW TO CHECK YOUR FKIN OIL'

'WHY DOES X DO Y?'

'why am i stupid?'

Quote:

Originally Posted by D.Stillwell (Post 3373038)
Most people use everything the same way, use it up and trash it. With as little maintenance as possible.

:shakes head: makes me sad seeing nice cars poorly taken care of.


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