Normally aspirated horsepower champ
If our 370Z's had the same efficiency as the new Ferrari Italia 458 (562hp from 4.2 liters)...
Our cars would be making about 463hp!! 3.7 litres x 125 hp/per litre. Given the cost differential, it is pretty darn impressive that our cars are producing 90hp per litre. But it is nice to know where the cutting edge is as well. |
bet that Ferrari purrs all the way up to redline though....
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Moar Powa!
didn't even consider the 90hp/L rating or 94.5 for the Nismo. It's nice to see us on par with some of the other imports out there :D EDIT: as far as the hp/L that is. Nissan > all heh :worship: |
Price and reliability are pluses in our beaZts, too.
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Yeah, but how long will that ferrari engine last before it blows up? There are many compromises made for street going cars for longevity and reliability. They're not like race cars where the entire car from bumper to bumper gets rebuilt every weekend. Supercars like ferrari and lambo choose impressive performance ahead of reliabily because superior performance is their main selling point and the justification behind their price tags. Also, those who can afford a ferrari or lambo don't care about reliability and can easily afford fixing them. Not to mention that most supercars are garage queens trailered to car shows and auctions, and are rarely ever actually driven on the street. That's why used supercars have mileage that is usually around 10% or so of mileage of other cars of the same model year.
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I used to see this guy hot-rodding his Modena almost every day through my apts in Las Colinas. I think it was his daily driver. I see GT2 Porsches all the time too, and used to see a Gallardo (sp?) at least a few days a week near my old work a few years ago.
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Yeah down here in South Florida it's nothing to see the same Ferarri or Lambo daily. I knew a kid that got a M3 for his 16th birthday, nice thinking parents...
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Well your comments would be right in the past about the cars not being reliable, but not anymore. Ferraris, still not so much, but lambos, especially the gallardo are very reliable cars. Their is a guy I know that I used to hang out with, that has a twin turbo one, and he now has 60k miles on that car, 40k of which on the tt kit. Theirs also a murci that I have seen with 75k, and he is only done his services, and changed the clutch at 45k.
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Umm, Im going to flag this as absolute heresy. Ferrari engines are amazing, they rev to 8-9k smoothly all day without any hint of breaking down. I don't know what Ferrari's you know, but the problem is never blowing up..its almost always electrical because their owners leave them sitting. Also you make a very general statement, I know a lot of people with Ferraris, Lambos and Porsches and they ALL care about their car and reliability. Nobody likes to pay to fix a motor. None of them would take it lightly. They may have the means to buy another 30 Ferraris, but they still would bitch like we would if we blew up. That is NOT why they aren't driven often. I wouldnt be surprised at ALL if an F430 or the new 458 Italia can handle twice the punishment my engine can for twice the time. They arent driven often because their owners care about resale value and because they aren't always the most practical cars. The price of these things goes down SO much with a few thousand miles on them... Don't get confused here... |
This has to be one of the dumbest threads. Ever.
And Im with RCZ on the reliability thing... |
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Yep. There is also a distinction between an engine built and designed for 600+hp versus an engine MODIFIED to make 600+hp later. Ferraris, Lambos, etc have engines that were designed to make high horsepower from the drawing board stages. All the components were engineered to handle the final specs and these are robust engines. Conversely, some garage junky who mods a 250hp motor into a 600hp TT beast has retasked an engine that was designed with different intentions. Perhaps one can change all the potential parts that could fail with the additional power, but in the end that motor didn't have the forethought and design conceptions to make that kind of power. Just because the guy who TT's his Dodge Neon may blow his motor doesn't mean that Ferraris that make the same or more power must have poor engine reliability as well. |
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