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Mike Z 11-06-2015 12:02 PM

Thinking of switching to 2016 STI
 
So I had my Z for almost 5 years now, it's still in great condition and I have no real complaints about the car, however I want to switch things up and I'm looking for a sporty 4 door car as a daily driver. I'm not a big fan of the EVO so I been leaning towards an STI. Haven't got the chance to test drive one but I wanted to hear some feed back from someone who switched from a Z to STI. Most of you will think of this as a downgrade but I'm not too concerned about that, I'm just looking for a more roomy car but fun to drive at the same time. I know this is a biased forum but can you guys input your thoughts on making the switch or if you think there is a better alternative. I plan on modding the car slightly, maybe an exhaust, intake and a tune. Let me know what you guys think, cheers!

Array 11-06-2015 12:14 PM

A lot of members switch between the two weather its Z to STI or STI to Z, its definetly not a bad choice and its more practical than other vehicles, for a 4 door sporty you cant go wrong but you may find yourself missing the two doors.

Since you plan on tuning, this may be an oppurtunity to give the STI a feel of a Z as far as handling.

It is your own decision afterall, it sounds like you have gotten what you want out of the Z as far as enjoyment so why not

TerribleONE 11-06-2015 12:15 PM

My buddy just got a 16 STI and I really enjoyed putting some miles on it a few weeks ago. Feels great in the canyons and the interior is definitely a step up from the last generation. It did feel pretty slow but then again so does almost anything after driving my car. Lol

edk370 11-06-2015 12:21 PM

M3

Mike Z 11-06-2015 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by edk370 (Post 3342372)
M3

too expensive :(

Exhaust 11-06-2015 01:00 PM

It is a great handling car and the boxer rumble is just mean. Are you looking for out the box fun or something to build? From i've seen from reviews and peoples commentary. This is supposed to be the best one to date but the last one I drove was the 12.

Pintsize725 11-06-2015 01:02 PM

Nothing you will buy will make you as happy as the Z.

Mike Z 11-06-2015 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exhaust (Post 3342399)
It is a great handling car and the boxer rumble is just mean. Are you looking for out the box fun or something to build? From i've seen from reviews and peoples commentary. This is supposed to be the best one to date but the last one I drove was the 12.

I agree with the boxer rumble, with the right aftermarket exhaust, it will sound amazing but at the same time I love my F.I exhaust and will miss it for sure. I want to do some slight modding but nothing too crazy. Definitely will get a new exhaust and probably a tune to go with it. I'm planning on test driving it this weekend, I really want to compare/contrast vs the Z.

Davey 11-06-2015 01:19 PM

Subaru likes to void warranties for the slightest mods. Factory tune sucks, it's too lean under boost.

So basically, you probably want to leave it bone stock and let Subaru give you as many motors as it takes to reach 50K miles or put a tune on it immediately and enjoy the car as it could have been.

TerribleONE 11-06-2015 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davey (Post 3342416)
Subaru likes to void warranties for the slightest mods. Factory tune sucks, it's too lean under boost.

So basically, you probably want to leave it bone stock and let Subaru give you as many motors as it takes to reach 50K miles or put a tune on it immediately and enjoy the car as it could have been.

I have a lot of friends with subies and the ones that have had issues put the car back to stock and got a new motor under warranty. I guess this does depend on the dealer though.

Davey 11-06-2015 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 3342422)
I have a lot of friends with subies and the ones that have had issues put the car back to stock and got a new motor under warranty. I guess this does depend on the dealer though.

They can tell the car has been reflashed, if they want to.

Mike Z 11-06-2015 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davey (Post 3342416)
Subaru likes to void warranties for the slightest mods. Factory tune sucks, it's too lean under boost.

So basically, you probably want to leave it bone stock and let Subaru give you as many motors as it takes to reach 50K miles or put a tune on it immediately and enjoy the car as it could have been.

I haven't done too much research on the engine, how easily does it blow up, given that its bone stock?

zmanelite 11-06-2015 02:07 PM

I got a WRX 2016 STI for a daily
Fun car and lots of room , good in the twisties
Horrible gas mileage , and still not as fun to drive as Z

All said tho, If I had to just live with one I would take the STI just because of the daily and practicality of the car



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ssmoked 11-06-2015 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zmanelite (Post 3342458)
I got a WRX 2016 STI for a daily
Fun car and lots of room , good in the twisties
Horrible gas mileage , and still not as fun to drive as Z

All said tho, If I had to just live with one I would take the STI just because of the daily and practicality of the car



https://zmanelite.smugmug.com/Other/...3_140802-L.jpg
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How bad mpg?

Davey 11-06-2015 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Z (Post 3342452)
I haven't done too much research on the engine, how easily does it blow up, given that its bone stock?

Not gonna pretend to be an expert, but cracked ringlands seem fairly common on 2007+ STI driven by people who like to actually use the turbo, and it seems to be almost universally agreed that it's the factory tune.

It's basically the same motor they've been using since 2004, so it makes sense that it's the factory tune.

zmanelite 11-06-2015 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssmoked (Post 3342469)
How bad mpg?

Around town and im not on the gas driving all crazy around 220 miles per tank before i refill, avg around town 16 mpg


Tank size 15gl

ssmoked 11-06-2015 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zmanelite (Post 3342534)
Around town and im not on the gas driving all crazy around 220 miles per tank before i refill, avg around town 16 mpg


Tank size 15gl

That's not horrible. I average 16.7mpg city with the stock Z with moderate heavy foot

Exhaust 11-06-2015 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssmoked (Post 3342768)
That's not horrible. I average 16.7mpg city with the stock Z with moderate heavy foot

Jesus and I thought my lead foot at 19 was bad. :ughdance:

Morbid370Z 11-06-2015 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exhaust (Post 3342771)
Jesus and I thought my lead foot at 19 was bad. :ughdance:

When I had my Z tuned they asked me if I wanted to keep any fuel efficiency in mine. I think my response was '**** it'. :D

edo-san 11-07-2015 12:21 AM

Do what you fell makes you happy. It's all about what fits you. Have fun and live! :)

AntiVenom 11-07-2015 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Z (Post 3342357)
So I had my Z for almost 5 years now, it's still in great condition and I have no real complaints about the car, however I want to switch things up and I'm looking for a sporty 4 door car as a daily driver. I'm not a big fan of the EVO so I been leaning towards an STI. Haven't got the chance to test drive one but I wanted to hear some feed back from someone who switched from a Z to STI. Most of you will think of this as a downgrade but I'm not too concerned about that, I'm just looking for a more roomy car but fun to drive at the same time. I know this is a biased forum but can you guys input your thoughts on making the switch or if you think there is a better alternative. I plan on modding the car slightly, maybe an exhaust, intake and a tune. Let me know what you guys think, cheers!

:gtfo2:

i kid. however, these two cars are nothing alike. i love the subies, but they are a daily driver or compromise car. meaning if you daily one, and then climb in to a real sports car on the weekend you will love it. if you get it to replace a real sports car you will likely miss aspects of driving a sports car, and all you will have to make you feel better is a back seat.

just my :twocents:

njobe89 11-09-2015 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Z (Post 3342390)
too expensive :(

you could get a used m3 4 door for low 20s now.

tonythetiger 11-09-2015 02:17 PM

lexus RC F!! jk

zmanelite 11-09-2015 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njobe89 (Post 3343616)
you could get a used m3 4 door for low 20s now.

IMO i would never buy a used German car

EzDz 11-09-2015 08:32 PM

I owned a 2015 sti for a few months before it got totalled. It was full stage 2 with only the turbo being stock and that was going to be swapped soon. After loosing it I got my z and loveee it. Sti's are fun and handle great but the z is always more fun for me. Sure the sti was a tad bit faster but my z is still stock and the sti is no fun until you drop a few grand in it plus they are always going go have motor troubles. I watched my buddys sti with a 1 year old short block from subaru blow a ringland on a downshift. http://i68.tinypic.com/2jxi5e.jpg

NZNoob 11-14-2015 04:50 AM

I am actually trying to find a new car after having nightmares with Used BMWs. Had all manner of E30 E24 E28 friends have E46s that are constantly broke. Always fun riding around in a car that if you go to adjust seat or turn on AC the owner goes oh don't bother its broke. I have restored several of these cars and know what it costs to keep them in any kinda order. Plenty of people drive them and do no maintenance. You always see them with no taillights and the headliner falling down and about 3 brands of tires.

I always see alot of talk on the net about OH DONT BUY THAT YOU COULD GET A USED M3. They forget to mention you will spend the difference in a few months keeping it running and then even more in the coming years. I am jaded however.

The STI was on my short list but the EJ is weak and many have blown up stock. Even the guys on the forums will admit the EJ isn't a strong motor until its built... Seems you tune and void your warranty or just get used to replacing your motor under warranty.

If the BRZ had 50-75 more HP it would be no contest.

I am now looking at a Nismo Z. Gotta find one to drive.

I entertained the M2 but looks like is going to be over 55K with any decent options and its 3500LBS :(.


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