Originally Posted by JDubya (Post 3340515)

At least it still looks better, and I don't see 20 of them going to work everyday though.

Originally Posted by birdman71 (Post 3340520)

Well my car purchase was going to be a daily driver. I don't much assume that the V6 "muscle cars" and legitimately muscle cars. They aren't. I know at that point I wanted the 5.0 which was not a daily driver friendly car.
And as for the Z showing in age, it is, but you also have to remember the new models coming out in 2017 and since the new models of 2009 you have to admit from 2009-2015 the Z had an amazing run.
If they go with the 3.0L TT it will be even more of a force to be reckon with on the track just because it will a lot easier to mod.
From what I understand the Camaro SS comes in a V8 only? although if it comes in a V6 it is understandable of the difference in exhaust tone I hear sometimes and also why I was able to beat some here and there.

Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3340447)

Good grief, I drove one those 4 banger turbo Genesis and I had to go home and take shower.

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Originally Posted by birdman71 (Post 3340520)

Well my car purchase was going to be a daily driver. I don't much assume that the V6 "muscle cars" and legitimately muscle cars. They aren't. I know at that point I wanted the 5.0 which was not a daily driver friendly car.
And as for the Z showing in age, it is, but you also have to remember the new models coming out in 2017 and since the new models of 2009 you have to admit from 2009-2015 the Z had an amazing run.
If they go with the 3.0L TT it will be even more of a force to be reckon with on the track just because it will a lot easier to mod.
From what I understand the Camaro SS comes in a V8 only? although if it comes in a V6 it is understandable of the difference in exhaust tone I hear sometimes and also why I was able to beat some here and there.

Originally Posted by Duc_Z09 (Post 3340583)

I dunno man, I found the 5.0 to be a lot more DD friendly than the Z to be honest. It's roomier, more comfortable, has a better interior, can fit 2x as many people, and is WAY faster in a straight line. Mustangs win in aftermarket mods, too... by a lot. The only reason I ended up with a Z was because of how sexy it is and the fact that I don't have kids. It's also nice to not see 20 others on my way to work. I have no regrets choosing a Z.

The Camaro SS I drove was a turd, however. It had the cornering capacity of a brick and the weight to match. They're also extremely ugly (IMO) and come with a standard crap GM interior. No thanks.:roflpuke2:

Originally Posted by JDubya (Post 3340607)

Granted, you drove the last model of it.

Originally Posted by JDubya (Post 3340607)

... Not to sound like a Camaro fanboy (I swear I'm not!), but I do have to give credit where it's due: 2016 Chevrolet Camaro SS First Test - Motor Trend

There's nothing turd about that car, well, except the way it looks :P ...

Originally Posted by Exhaust (Post 3340558)

Was it really that bad?

Originally Posted by NISMO IX (Post 3340714)

Some of the more powerful naturally aspirated V6s on the market

2016 Ford Mustang 3.7L Ti-VCT V6 engine 300 horsepower 280 lb-ft. of torque
2015 Chevy Camaro Engine, 3.6L SIDI DOHC V6 VVT 323 hp @6800 rpm 278 lb-ft torque @4800 rpm
2015 Dodge Challenger The 3.6L Pentastar® V6 305 horsepower268 lb-ft torque
2015 Hyundai Genesis 3.8 V6 D-CVVT 348hp @6400 295lb.ft @5100
2015 Porsche Cayman 3.8 V6 VarioCam Plus variable valve timing and lift 385hp 309 lb.ft
2015 Lexus RC 3.5 V6 306hp 277ft-lbs
2015 Porsche GT3 3.8 V6 475hp 325ft-lb

Originally Posted by NISMO IX (Post 3340714)

Some of the more powerful naturally aspirated V6s on the market

2016 Ford Mustang 3.7L Ti-VCT V6 engine 300 horsepower 280 lb-ft. of torque
2015 Chevy Camaro Engine, 3.6L SIDI DOHC V6 VVT 323 hp @6800 rpm 278 lb-ft torque @4800 rpm
2015 Dodge Challenger The 3.6L Pentastar® V6 305 horsepower268 lb-ft torque
2015 Hyundai Genesis 3.8 V6 D-CVVT 348hp @6400 295lb.ft @5100
2015 Porsche Cayman 3.8 V6 VarioCam Plus variable valve timing and lift 385hp 309 lb.ft
2015 Lexus RC 3.5 V6 306hp 277ft-lbs
2015 Porsche GT3 3.8 V6 475hp 325ft-lb

Originally Posted by Masterbeatty (Post 3340719)

The porche's are boxer engines!

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3340540)

my ask is pretty simple. get rid of the faking throttle pedal lag and dumbarse csc. :mad:

Originally Posted by Exhaust (Post 3340758)

Sorry but I should been more concise, I am not comparing the Z to every V6 only to ones comparable in price or cheaper from factory.

Originally Posted by Masterbeatty (Post 3340719)

The porche's are boxer engines!

Originally Posted by VCuomo (Post 3340629)

And it has worse visibility (blind spots) than the Z...

Originally Posted by Duc_Z09 (Post 3340583)

I dunno man, I found the 5.0 to be a lot more DD friendly than the Z to be honest. It's roomier, more comfortable, has a better interior, can fit 2x as many people, and is WAY faster in a straight line. Mustangs win in aftermarket mods, too... by a lot. The only reason I ended up with a Z was because of how sexy it is and the fact that I don't have kids. It's also nice to not see 20 others on my way to work. I have no regrets choosing a Z.

The Camaro SS I drove was a turd, however. It had the cornering capacity of a brick and the weight to match. They're also extremely ugly (IMO) and come with a standard crap GM interior. No thanks.:roflpuke2:

Originally Posted by mishuko (Post 3340771)

throttle lag isn't too bad compared to toyota's :tup:

no comment on the csc though :eekdance:

Originally Posted by mishuko (Post 3340771)

throttle lag isn't too bad compared to toyota's :tup:

no comment on the csc though :eekdance:

Originally Posted by Duc_Z09 (Post 3340883)

Oh yeah, forgot about that. That's saying a lot because the Z has terrible visibility.:iagree: