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imsimplee 10-30-2015 01:36 PM

Lawyers of the370z I need your help!
 
Hey guys so I've kinda gotten myself into a tricky situation.
I let my friend borrow my Nismo wheels when he sold his cosmic racing wheels last week on the basis that he would use them for a month or two until he could save up to buy his own wheels. Thing is last night I heard that he was racing and flipped his car and is now in the hospital. He is scrapped up but well and recovering at the moment, but I have no idea as to the condition of the wheels, whether they be salvage-able or not. What can I do in this situation? I don't think insurance would pay out the accurate price for the wheels alone? or Im not sure, I just don't know what to do in this situation because I was hoping to sell the wheels. Any help would be appreciated!

EzDz 10-30-2015 01:40 PM

If he doesnt have aftermarket insurance you wont get value on the wheels. Im assuming he flipped a 370z and its totaled?? I was in an accident with a deer and totaled my sti. I had volks on and sold my stock wheels... i got $950 for the wheels plus the value of the car. Ask him to try and get a little bit from insurance but I would make him pay for them.

kenchan 10-30-2015 02:02 PM

regardless how he gets the money for the accident from his insurance, tell your friend to buy you replacements.

Fuzzzy 10-30-2015 02:25 PM

Why don't you just wait until he tells you what he intends to do before you start lawyering up? Or is he actually several steps down from being a friend?

TerribleONE 10-30-2015 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3338078)
regardless how he gets the money for the accident from his insurance, tell your friend to buy you replacements.

:iagree:

Nixin 10-30-2015 02:49 PM

Once your buddy heals up, pay him a visit and tell him he owes you. It's that plain and simple.

mishuko 10-30-2015 02:49 PM

how can you race in california? i thought you'd fail emissions... what was he racing? A prius with nismo rims?

ok jokes aside, your first mistake is lending him your rims regardless of friend or not. i would be hesitent on using anything from a flipped car. others may disagree but i'm picky.

I'm with ken. get him to buy you replacements. although if he had to borrow yours and his medical bill... yea...

Trips 10-30-2015 02:55 PM

I say unless your friends finances magically changes you maybe S.O.L. :ugh2:

Good Luck!

barncobob 10-30-2015 03:20 PM

butterfly, wisdom comes with age...dont let anyone borrow anything unless u can live without it, we will see where your friendship ends up.:eek:

dant1127 10-30-2015 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barncobob (Post 3338139)
butterfly, wisdom comes with age...dont let anyone borrow anything unless u can live without it, we will see where your friendship ends up.:eek:

:iagree:

Zbrah 10-30-2015 04:20 PM

I'm no lawyer but I think should pay him a visit in the hospital and get him to admit on video he damaged your wheels, now you have evidence to use in court if he tries to weasel his way out of it:twocents:

onzedge 10-30-2015 04:38 PM

I suggest getting some flowers and sending them to your friend along with a tasteful and thoughtfully composed Get Well card and then bringing them to the hospital. I also suggest visiting him every day he is laid up. Bring him a Caramel Macchiato. Hang out with him. Never mention the wheels until he is back on his feet. Go to his house and water his plants. Do his laundry, Pick up his dry cleaning. Walk his dog. Clean his kitchen and bathrooms. Mow his lawn. Take his kids to school for him. Make a sizeable donation to a worthy charity in his name.

These are the things you should do.

He may be thinking of suing you anyway for your faulty wheels that caused his accident.

Count your blessings.

Pay it forward.

onzedge™ has written

birdman71 10-30-2015 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3338078)
regardless how he gets the money for the accident from his insurance, tell your friend to buy you replacements.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fuzzzy (Post 3338087)
Why don't you just wait until he tells you what he intends to do before you start lawyering up? Or is he actually several steps down from being a friend?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nixin (Post 3338111)
Once your buddy heals up, pay him a visit and tell him he owes you. It's that plain and simple.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zbrah (Post 3338169)
I'm no lawyer but I think should pay him a visit in the hospital and get him to admit on video he damaged your wheels, now you have evidence to use in court if he tries to weasel his way out of it:twocents:

:iagree: :tup:

SouthArk370Z 10-30-2015 06:18 PM

If he's a friend in the John 15:13 sense, then feces occurs. See onzedge's comment above.

If he's more like a Facebook friend, then you have been taught an expensive lesson. See comments by Trips and barncobob above.

onzedge 10-30-2015 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3338260)
If he's a friend in the John 15:13 sense, then feces occurs. See onzedge's comment above.

If he's more like a Facebook friend, then you have been taught an expensive lesson. See comments by Trips and barncobob above.

:iagree:

axmea? 10-30-2015 06:29 PM

Your his friend with benefits.

HulaGirl 10-30-2015 06:34 PM

Polonius:
Neither a borrower nor a lender be,
For loan oft loses both itself and friend

Felix 808 10-30-2015 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HulaGirl (Post 3338278)
Polonius:
Neither a borrower nor a lender be,
For loan oft loses both itself and friend

:iagree: Yep never lend what you can't afford to lose & never borrow what you can't afford to buy

$.02

onzedge 10-30-2015 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HulaGirl (Post 3338278)
Polonius:
Neither a borrower nor a lender be,
For loan oft loses both itself and friend

Quote:

Originally Posted by Felix 808 (Post 3338423)
:iagree: Yep never lend what you can't afford to lose & never borrow what you can't afford to buy

$.02

:iagree:

dant1127 10-30-2015 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by axmea? (Post 3338272)
Your his friend with benefits.

You're*
:tiphat:

axmea? 10-30-2015 11:21 PM

^^^^ Yup i was in a hurry. Only tigger can do what you just did. His the grammer police. Pun intended somewhere.

Back on topic. I can't imagine any lawyer taking this on or if there is a need for one. This is between you and your friend unless your friend can manage to get his insurance company to pay for the wheels. Good luck.

Johnny6.1 10-31-2015 12:24 AM

Wut I would advise is don't kick him while he's down. Let him recover and politely have a conversation with him. Maybe you can work out some form of payment arrangements. But being nice and polite will get you much farther than trying to muscle him into paying. I'm sure he is aware of the wheel situation and if he is any sort of friend he will try his hardest to make things right

Darketch 10-31-2015 06:38 AM

Forum members provided good advice....a few items I'm curious about:

Is he a friend or not?

What was he driving?

Details of the crash - storytime maybe?

Pics?

All in all I hope your friend recovers well. Stuff is stuff, it can be replaced...your health sometimes can't. Good Luck.

sx moneypit 10-31-2015 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 3338179)
I suggest getting some flowers and sending them to your friend along with a tasteful and thoughtfully composed Get Well card and then bringing them to the hospital. I also suggest visiting him every day he is laid up. Bring him a Caramel Macchiato. Hang out with him. Never mention the wheels until he is back on his feet. Go to his house and water his plants. Do his laundry, Pick up his dry cleaning. Walk his dog. Clean his kitchen and bathrooms. Mow his lawn. Take his kids to school for him. Make a sizeable donation to a worthy charity in his name.

These are the things you should do.

He may be thinking of suing you anyway for your faulty wheels that caused his accident.

Count your blessings.

Pay it forward.

onzedge™ has written

:rofl2::iagree:

Rusty 10-31-2015 07:18 AM

Bend over. Take your butt plug out. Grap your ankles. You're hosed on your wheels. Once your friend gets out of the hospital. Put him back in with a swift hit to the knees with a baseball bat. While you are at it. Hit yourself a few times too for letting him use your wheels.

ramoszx12r 10-31-2015 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trips (Post 3338117)
I say unless your friends finances magically changes you maybe S.O.L. :ugh2:

Good Luck!

:iagree:

HulaGirl 10-31-2015 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 3338179)
I suggest getting some flowers and sending them to your friend along with a tasteful and thoughtfully composed Get Well card and then bringing them to the hospital. I also suggest visiting him every day he is laid up. Bring him a Caramel Macchiato. Hang out with him. Never mention the wheels until he is back on his feet. Go to his house and water his plants. Do his laundry, Pick up his dry cleaning. Walk his dog. Clean his kitchen and bathrooms. Mow his lawn. Take his kids to school for him. Make a sizeable donation to a worthy charity in his name.

These are the things you should do.

He may be thinking of suing you anyway for your faulty wheels that caused his accident.

Count your blessings.

Pay it forward.

onzedge™ has written

This sounds about right.

We live in a litigation crazy nation. Much stronger case than "hot coffee" IMO.

MagmaRed370z 10-31-2015 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nixin (Post 3338111)
Once your buddy heals up, pay him a visit and tell him he owes you. It's that plain and simple.


:iagree:

LA370z 10-31-2015 12:06 PM

Probably not much legal recourse you can really take.

Just hope that he does the right thing and pay you for the rims that he borrowed if they are indeed destroyed.

Birdfan67 10-31-2015 01:22 PM

Chalk it up as a learning experience... you loaned him the rims so you rolled the dice.
He's a friend...be glad he's alive ! I'd wait a few days to allow the dust to settle...then oh' by the way him. If he offers you compensation from the insurance...take it and smile...don't get into what you could have sold them for...thats meaningless to him. If you feel inclined ask for $500.00 bucks and call it a day. Be reasonable...they were used...they may even be ok, who knows.

ZVox 10-31-2015 01:39 PM

The best friends you will ever have in life, are the ones you never lend a single thing to. Unless its being used while you're there and you take it home with you.

I lent my Nintendo Rc Pro-am to kid named bobby in 3rd grade, still havent gotten it back :facepalm:

TexasChuck 10-31-2015 03:24 PM

Agree with Tripps
 
May be SOL.

RonRizz 10-31-2015 05:57 PM

Until insurance co. finds out he was street racing, and refuses to pay up.
Then you and your pal are straight up SOL.

Z-Girl 12 10-31-2015 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 3338179)
I suggest getting some flowers and sending them to your friend along with a tasteful and thoughtfully composed Get Well card and then bringing them to the hospital. I also suggest visiting him every day he is laid up. Bring him a Caramel Macchiato. Hang out with him. Never mention the wheels until he is back on his feet. Go to his house and water his plants. Do his laundry, Pick up his dry cleaning. Walk his dog. Clean his kitchen and bathrooms. Mow his lawn. Take his kids to school for him. Make a sizeable donation to a worthy charity in his name.

These are the things you should do.

He may be thinking of suing you anyway for your faulty wheels that caused his accident.

Count your blessings.

Pay it forward.

onzedge™ has written

Well said...

lovemyvq 10-31-2015 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonRizz (Post 3338771)
Until insurance co. finds out he was street racing, and refuses to pay up.
Then you and your pal are straight up SOL.

+1 and even if he was being a good guy and racing at the track where we should be, you're still going to be out of luck with insurance. Most companies will not cover any damage of any kind whatsoever incurred while at the track. And trying to make a claim without disclosing the damage was a result of track driving you'd be committing insurance fraud. Basically, it boils down to how good of friends you guys are. I know if one of my good friends were kind enough to let me borrow something and I damaged it, accident or not, I'd replace it asap with the same thing or better.

vtec to vvel 11-01-2015 10:16 PM

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onzedge 11-01-2015 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z-Girl 12 (Post 3338794)
Well said...

:tiphat:

fzgood 11-02-2015 01:19 AM

Sorry to hear about your awkward situation. As far as legal solutions go, it depends on what you want out of this.

Are you worried that the condition of your wheels could have had something to do with the accident?

Do you want money?

In any case, if someone is borrowing wheels, small claims court really isn't worth your time. They don't have money for you. You can sue your friend's insurance company but without knowing about his coverage, there's no projection on what you can get out of it. In any case, you can wait some time - so do what everyone here is telling you to: wait an appropriate amount of time for your friend and just ask if they'll pay you for it.

If they agree, send an e-mail and sum up what you talked about, maybe tell him hey thanks for being cool about the wheels, hard times, etc... here are the ones i was thinking of, let me know when a good time is for you to buy for me.

If you're in a place where you have to sue someone, trust me, it's not worth the cost of wheels.

also, if he believes your wheels caused his accident, you'll want to proceed with caution.

my advice: this doesn't sound personal. it's just (a little) money, save up and replace.

VCuomo 11-02-2015 07:52 PM

Situations like this is why God invented Small Claims Court. The limit in California is $7,500.


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