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j0nnybananas 10-09-2015 06:34 PM

Z for a '16 WRX?
 
Hopefully I'm in the right section with this one; apologies ahead of time if I'm not.
After having my Z for a little over a year now, I still absolutely love driving the car. However, there are times I wish I had a little extra space - whether it be for additional people or room in the trunk for things for the house.
This past weekend I had the opportunity to drive a buddy's 2013 stage 2 WRX and I was pretty impressed. He mentioned that some of the new 2015/16s are making pretty good numbers with a tune and some simple modifications and at $26.5k~ they seem like quite a bargain.
Anyone have any experience with the new WRXs? Would it be a considerable step back?

Z-Girl 12 10-09-2015 06:53 PM

Came sooooo close to trading the Z in on a 16 limited sti but couldn't quite pull the trigger on the 43k after taxes price tag. Cobb stage II tune is a must but test driving stock u was impressed. For now still sit ting in my Z but lack of space after 4yrs I'm ready to make the jump. Just th8n king Bout it a lil more. Best wishes on making your decision!

sx moneypit 10-09-2015 08:19 PM

Getcha' a good and roomy daily driver like my 1986 MR2.It has a trunk and a frunk.:icon17:

gr8-wrx 10-09-2015 08:24 PM

IMHO, a WRX is a step back. I used to have a WRX and while it's a great performance car, to me, it always had that econo car feel/look.

Disclaimer: I'm old (45). :tup:

P's_Z 10-10-2015 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gr8-wrx (Post 3325770)
IMHO, a WRX is a step back. I used to have a WRX and while it's a great performance car, to me, it always had that econo car feel/look.

Disclaimer: I'm old (45). :tup:

:iagree: I had a wrx too.

And Im less old (33) :icon17:

Maybe opt for an STi? Or keep modding the hell outta the '16 WRX with wheels, suspension bits, brakes, etc. etc. etc.

jaedub 10-11-2015 12:03 AM

While the WRX is a much more practical car, you'll never get the feeling of driving a real sports car. WRX and Z are very different. In terms of performance and appearance, it's a step back. However, you can easily tune a WRX. You can't really go wrong with WRX but there will be lots of compromises.

JerryDeluxe 10-11-2015 01:31 AM

Step back , dont do it

DOOMMONKEY777 10-11-2015 06:54 AM

WRX engine sux @$$.

LA370z 10-11-2015 09:34 AM

I wouldn't do it but that just my opinion.

At the end of the day it's what you really want and what you would be more happier with at the end of the day.

zmanelite 10-11-2015 09:52 AM

I got a WRX 2016 STI for a daily
Fun car and lots of room , good in the twisties
Horrible gas mileage , and still not as fun to drive as Z

All said tho, If I had to just live with one I would take the STI just because of the daily and practicality of the car



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Cell 10-11-2015 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gr8-wrx (Post 3325770)
IMHO, a WRX is a step back. I used to have a WRX and while it's a great performance car, to me, it always had that econo car feel/look.

Disclaimer: I'm old (45). :tup:


I was close to pulling a trigger on one too. I couldn't get over the interior material at the price they were asking for.

my2004Z 10-11-2015 03:07 PM

The WRX STI's have always been ugly-aggressive looking but are now looking more and more forgettable. Keep the Z and the hell with practicality. :driving:

MagmaRed370z 10-11-2015 05:34 PM

Keep the Z. At the end its what you want but in my honest opinion the Z looks way better and cant match rear wheel drive fun.

Exhaust 10-11-2015 07:12 PM

You completely sacrifice what makes this car special for the STI. Once you're in a STI, or even EVO for that matter you realize it's just a souped up family sports car. If thats the means you need then sure, otherwise as a single male or even engaged male, its a bad decision performance wise spec to spec IMO.

DOOMMONKEY777 10-11-2015 09:33 PM

Just get a Benz, cheapest one is better than sti. Mho.

j0nnybananas 10-11-2015 09:43 PM

Appreciate all the feedback guys! I figure I'll do a bit more research and maybe a test drive and go from there

cdumitru78 10-11-2015 10:33 PM

I went 350z - 2014 Wrx hatch - 2015 370Z base with sports package. The Z is special indeed, except the crap paint, it feels like a better built car all around. The WRX started rattling within the first 1k miles, and inside plastic was cheap, stereo was horrible, but it was very practical, and that boxer engine sounded great! I am lucky enough to also own a stage 2 Mazdaspeed3, so that gives me the practicality I need, and that thing is quick, even for a FWD. If I were in your shoes, I would not go for a regular WRX, the STI may work out for you. But at that price, you can even do what I did, show around for a used fun/practical car, that way you can have it both ways. Good luck!

cdumitru78 10-11-2015 10:36 PM

The new Golf R's seem to get some really good reviews too, that may be a good option too.

kenchan 10-12-2015 07:36 AM

yah, for a dd i suppose, but i wouldnt sell my Z for that. just get a cheap hatch or your dd needs.

BC416 10-12-2015 08:49 AM

I feel like Subaru's design approach to the WRX over the past 6 or 7 years has been "How can we get this car to look more and more like a Corolla?". IMO, they keep getting uglier and uglier.

kenchan 10-12-2015 12:55 PM

subaru does need to hire better designers, yes. their legacy's and tribecca (sp?) look like chryslers. lol

but then it wouldnt have that off-beat quirkiness.

6spd 10-12-2015 06:50 PM

If you care ANYTHING about interior quality, don't look at the WRX lol

njobe89 10-13-2015 07:06 AM

i thought about swapping my z for the sti.. i just like how they sound lol and the ease of getting more hp out of them. but i also can't see myself ever giving 40k for that car.

ZeeBabar 10-13-2015 09:16 AM

It's looks vs. practicality, like trading a hot looking wife for a frumpy lady who cooks and cleans better. At some point, the latter is preferable. If you are at that point, go for it.

mishuko 10-13-2015 09:28 AM

the CLA AMG is close in price to the top trim evo and sti's in canada... =P

The Dimer 10-13-2015 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6spd (Post 3327059)
If you care ANYTHING about interior quality, don't look at the WRX lol

That's why I can't bring myself to buy one, or even put one into consideration.

6spd 10-13-2015 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dimer (Post 3327322)
That's why I can't bring myself to buy one, or even put one into consideration.

I had a '14 for about 6 months, great to drive, terrible to feel at home in. Ended up in another Z.

barncobob 10-13-2015 08:09 PM

that boxer motor sounds horrendous..

jaedub 10-13-2015 08:38 PM

Have you guys ever heard of WRX S4? It's a new WRX in Japan with high-end luxury interior that will blow the current WRX's interior out of the water. Might want to research that OP

zmanelite 10-13-2015 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barncobob (Post 3327694)
that boxer motor sounds horrendous..

I thought so also at first , after awhile it grows on ya

BC416 10-14-2015 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barncobob (Post 3327694)
that boxer motor sounds horrendous..

Really?!?! I always thought they were one of the few good sounding 4 cylinders with an aftermarket exhaust.

cdumitru78 10-14-2015 10:47 PM

Yeah, as much as I like my Z, boxer engine in the WRX sounds good, dare I say better than a stock Z... and I have owned both.

crus 10-17-2015 08:55 PM

Might also throw the 2016 Ford Focus RS In to the discussion as well now that the specs are out

350 hp/350tq and pretty much the same price as an sti. DAMN!

The Ford Focus RS Will Have 350 Horsepower, 350 Pound-Feet Of Torque

Sti killer

JDubya 10-17-2015 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crus (Post 3330047)
Might also throw the 2016 Ford Focus RS In to the discussion as well now that the specs are out

350 hp/350tq and pretty much the same price as an sti. DAMN!

The Ford Focus RS Will Have 350 Horsepower, 350 Pound-Feet Of Torque

Sti killer

I understand that much of someone's car choice is heavily subjective, but I really can't understand why anyone would spend 37k on a Focus. Why the hell is there a market for this car? (yea, I know my first sentence answered this) But I can't understand why anyone would spend 35-40k on an STI either, and that happens. As I know some folks on here also own an STI...and I mean no offense. I'm just not a fan of the visuals or the performance at that price tag. But, to each their own.

From a numbers perspective, it would be hard to argue against the Focus RS. It's quick. But it's still a Focus...It looks terrible. I don't care if that thing had 500 HP, I'd never want to drive in something that looks like a glorified econobox. It looks like Ford's version of a Prius. Awful. And again, 37k for a Ford Focus...I just don't care what is under the hood. Who would want to wake up in the morning, get ready for work, and go out into your garage and see a Focus after you've been walking out to a Z every morning? It's like dumping Kate Upton (insert girl you like) for Miss Piggy.

If I wanted a little more room, and a backseat for 37k, I'd just buy a 2016 Camaro SS. At least I can have some dignity driving that around. It doesn't hurt that all signs are pointing to it being hands down the best all around sports car under 40k (performance wise).

Anyway, I'm not trying to pick on you, I just hate the idea of the Focus RS, as you likely noticed. Frankly, this is actually a good suggestion, based on what the OP said. I just wanted to rant a little bit.

crus 10-17-2015 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDubya (Post 3330067)
I understand that much of someone's car choice is heavily subjective, but I really can't understand why anyone would spend 37k on a Focus. Why the hell is there a market for this car? (yea, I know my first sentence answered this) But I can't understand why anyone would spend 35-40k on an STI either, and that happens. As I know some folks on here also own an STI...and I mean no offense. I'm just not a fan of the visuals or the performance at that price tag. But, to each their own.

From a numbers perspective, it would be hard to argue against the Focus RS. It's quick. But it's still a Focus...It looks terrible. I don't care if that thing had 500 HP, I'd never want to drive in something that looks like a glorified econobox. It looks like Ford's version of a Prius. Awful. And again, 37k for a Ford Focus...I just don't care what is under the hood. Who would want to wake up in the morning, get ready for work, and go out into your garage and see a Focus after you've been walking out to a Z every morning? It's like dumping Kate Upton (insert girl you like) for Miss Piggy.

If I wanted a little more room, and a backseat for 37k, I'd just buy a 2016 Camaro SS. At least I can have some dignity driving that around. It doesn't hurt that all signs are pointing to it being hands down the best all around sports car under 40k (performance wise).

Anyway, I'm not trying to pick on you, I just hate the idea of the Focus RS, as you likely noticed. Frankly, this is actually a good suggestion, based on what the OP said. I just wanted to rant a little bit.

Heh..I hear you man and I agree. It's still just a focus, but bang for the buck not a terrible choice. I can't hate much on the STi, since I owned a 2006 =). The wing was a bit much, but I enjoyed the car until the engine blew up at 32k (oil pickup tube issue). It never really ran quite right after getting the engine replaced. I definitely wouldn't trade up the Z for a focus or go back to another STi for the price they're going for now.

GeauxTigers1 10-18-2015 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDubya (Post 3330067)
I understand that much of someone's car choice is heavily subjective, but I really can't understand why anyone would spend 37k on a Focus. Why the hell is there a market for this car? (yea, I know my first sentence answered this) But I can't understand why anyone would spend 35-40k on an STI either, and that happens. As I know some folks on here also own an STI...and I mean no offense. I'm just not a fan of the visuals or the performance at that price tag. But, to each their own.

From a numbers perspective, it would be hard to argue against the Focus RS. It's quick. But it's still a Focus...It looks terrible. I don't care if that thing had 500 HP, I'd never want to drive in something that looks like a glorified econobox. It looks like Ford's version of a Prius. Awful. And again, 37k for a Ford Focus...I just don't care what is under the hood. Who would want to wake up in the morning, get ready for work, and go out into your garage and see a Focus after you've been walking out to a Z every morning? It's like dumping Kate Upton (insert girl you like) for Miss Piggy.

If I wanted a little more room, and a backseat for 37k, I'd just buy a 2016 Camaro SS. At least I can have some dignity driving that around. It doesn't hurt that all signs are pointing to it being hands down the best all around sports car under 40k (performance wise).

Anyway, I'm not trying to pick on you, I just hate the idea of the Focus RS, as you likely noticed. Frankly, this is actually a good suggestion, based on what the OP said. I just wanted to rant a little bit.

This man...could be my best friend.

JDubya 10-18-2015 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3330106)
This man...could be my best friend.

Hahahaha.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-ZUDtaGf3I

And now I'm derailing this thread...oh well.

BC416 10-19-2015 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crus (Post 3330047)
Might also throw the 2016 Ford Focus RS In to the discussion as well now that the specs are out

350 hp/350tq and pretty much the same price as an sti. DAMN!

The Ford Focus RS Will Have 350 Horsepower, 350 Pound-Feet Of Torque

Sti killer

Screw the haters. The RS is a monster!

The Dimer 10-19-2015 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BC416 (Post 3330506)
Screw the haters. The RS is a monster!

It's currently the talk of all my friends. If it was out while I was shopping around for my Z I may not have been here to type this out.

EzDz 10-20-2015 09:24 PM

Dont even consider a wrx! Sure nice power but its under 30k for a reason. The z is overbuilt and you wont break anything. The wrx will need built parts in a few years. As for the sti, i had a built 2015 sti and to be honest I like my stock nismo more... I also have no use for backseats but if you want back seats go buy a beater and enjoy the z


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