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Hi everyone, about 7 months ago I purchased a 2011 370z Monterey blue with that orangish interior, with only 4900 miles. It was perfect, unfortunately an inexperienced driver failed to yield the right of way, made a turn hit into me and my car landed on its side, and the cars totalled. I am getting money back from insurance but its so hard to find the same car with the same options (Fully loaded) I did find one though, everything is pretty much the same but its a 2009 model. Since that was the first year they made that car is there anything different that I have to watch out for maybe defects or problems compared to a 2011? Thanks.

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I'm not sure if there are any mechanical differences that are prone to failure, but a couple of niceties that immediately pops to my mind is a fully loaded 2009 does NOT have rear view camera for the NAV and heated mirrors like the 2011+ does.

Ah ok yes I need those, thanks!

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you should also consider all the little revisions that were done by the engineers that we don't know about.

First model year vs mid cycle, I'd say at least 3-5k difference just in model years.

True, im going to try to find a 2010 and newer

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And the older ones dont come with oil cooler

older models have oil starvation issues, (Some) no oil cooler, id suggest getting a different color newer year if you cannot find the same one 2011+

also steering wheel lock issues

Good luck finding a monterey blue fully loaded with that color interior....there were only 23 ever made for the entire north american continent...41 if you count the automatics as well

Well there are 2 of them in that color combo available, ones fully loaded with 35k miles the other just doesnt have audio display and has 21k miles, both are 2009 thats why idk if I should go with it since they are 09's

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Other than the oil starvation issues which only effected a certain run of vins there are no mechanical issues. Aftermarket oil cooler can always be added as well to reduce oil temps though my 09' has never gone above like 225 degrees with hard driving.

Hm I see, maybe ill just check the one with 35k miles out in person, I mean thats not that many miles anyway right, and ill purchase an extended warranty too

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As long as you get the warranty and you dont mind not having heated mirrors then I dont see a problem with an 09". Especially if they really only made that few in that color combo, I'd go for any year lol.

True lol I drove 5 hours to get the one I had this ones like 45m away im gonna look at it at some point if its available, thanks for the tip!

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May want to check and see if they have a carfax on either of them also, at some point the engine might have been replaced on one of them....i recently picked up an 09 myself in the same color except for black leather interior and discovered that it had it's engine replaced back in 2011 at slightly less than 24,000 miles. Havent had one issue with the engine thankfully, but made me glad i opted to purchase the extended warranty the dealer offered. Oh and the production numbers i quoted are the real deal, there is a member on here that works for nissan and he was kind enough to make a tool to look up production numbers for the Z, just do a google search for 370Z production statistics and it will be the first result :)

Oh yes one of the first things I look at lol, thanks for the info

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A new motor is definitely not a bad thing though less miles and at least you know it probably won't have the oil consumption issues


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I liked my 09 better. It sounded more raw and seemed to accelerate mildly faster than my current 11. My only issue was I had a Lil bit of axle slack, so on hard take offs, you hear this loud *** bang!!! The spring rates are mildly stiffer as the 11 spring rates were mildly softened for comfort.

There were some cars with ECU whine, but Nissan can flash the ECU to fix it. Fuel starve exists till this day. Oil consumption..... Hmm lots of guys got new engines with those types of chronic issues sooooooo, I doubt you'll run into that. No heated mirrors. CSC existed then of course. I think you're good.

I too was color specific when shopping for my Z (pw/orange/full loaded/6 sp). I had a hard time looking for mine and I imagine your combo is even harder. So if that's your only combo, then i wouldn't mind going with the 09 even though it lacks certain options. As far as the oil cooler and steering wheel lock... it is ok w/o the oil cooler if you don't track the car and the steering wheel lock is probably replaced with the latest version by now or you can always pull the fuse.

you also save a few bucks being an older model. I'd say go for it if it checks out well. MB/PW is a very nice combo.

I don't know where people are getting oil starvation from, that has only been an issue for dedicated track cars so far. I can only assume they mean oil CONSUMPTION. The '11 steering lock was updated but still can fail. '11s don't have an oil cooler, and the CSC is a problem for all manuals. '12s were the first year where there were any changes worthy of note.

Well then, I didnt know this....and whats a CSC?

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CSC-clutch slave cylinder

Z1 makes the external slave cylinder so this is really not an issue if you don't mind forking over some $450 for a much better slave cylinder.


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Z1 makes the external slave cylinder so this is really not an issue if you don't mind forking over some $450 for a much better slave cylinder.


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the guys over at corner3 garage didnt seem to impressed with the build quality on that Z1 part....and now im back on the fence of whether i should just get the zspeed hd csc or ignore them and go with the Z1 part anyway

What are they talking about? :rolleyes: The build quality is fine. Mike The Powdercoater has tons of track time on his. Not to mention, the cylinder itself is easily replaced and only costs $60 if something happens (I haven't heard of anyone needing to replace it yet). My favorite benefit is the fact that I never again will have to drop the transmission if I have problems with the slave :twocents:

Interesting pretty much everyone on the forum that I know have it say nothing but good things about the z1 csc elimination kit.


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sorry to threadjack, but about how hard would you say it is installing the Z1 part and also, would you have to replace the master cylinder? only reason i ask is because i was quoted $900 for installing a clutch kit and the Z1 part and was wondering if that price seemed alright to you guys.

If you're doing it on jack stands in your garage, I can attest that it is a pain in the a$$. It took me two full days with knowledgeable help. If you've got access to a lift, have the tools, and have some experience, it will probably be much less of a pain. Absolutely replace the master cylinder at the same time. That $900 figure seems a bit high to me, but it's not so high that locations with higher shop rates wouldn't be in that ballpark. We have $80-90/hr rates around here, so transmission labor should be closer to $500-600. But if shop rates near you are pushing $120 like they can in some parts of the country, then $900 might be a decent price. Figure book rate is seven hours of labor or so.