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ChrisSlicks 10-24-2009 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cjof2003 (Post 250380)
500rpms over the redline probably won't cause any issues.
I don't know how the 370z motor is, but if it went past 8k you could bend a valve, bend a rod or a number of other issues.

If it was under load you could definitely bend something, but if you're downshifting then it shouldn't be under much load.

junior_jam 10-24-2009 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt (Post 250340)
I have a quite a bit of fun, and I'm still "scared" to go over 5k rpm. Once I hit a few hundred miles, I'll let loose a little more.

Not that you have to break it in properly, but the owner's manual says to not go above 4k RPM until you hit 1200 miles.

Matt 10-24-2009 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by junior_jam (Post 250385)
Not that you have to break it in properly, but the owner's manual says to not go above 4k RPM until you hit 1200 miles.

Exactly my point. I've drifted into the low 4k's, but nothing higher than 4.5k RPM. From what I've been told, as long as you're not "dogging" the car, drive it like you would normally as soon as you get it. After 500 miles or so, I'll start easing her into the 5's and 6's every now and then, but I don't plan on treating the car bad before or after 1200 miles.

Don't want to turn this into another "to break-in or not break-in" thread. :)

Mike 10-24-2009 05:38 PM

I was once at the drag strip with my old supercharged 350Z and accidentally misshifted and went to 2nd while at redline in 3rd, instead of 4th. The tach went to the 6 oclock position on the gauge for a split second before I got the clutch in. Fortunately, no damage, so the original poster should be fine.

Red370 10-24-2009 05:40 PM

set your shift light to 7k just to be safe :)

AK370Z 10-24-2009 05:52 PM

Everyone misshifted at some point. I myself misshifted few weeks back revving the engine to 7500+ RPM. As long as you quickly fix the mistake (i.e. shift to higher gear or neutral) you should be fine.

Island_370 10-24-2009 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Supremo (Post 250305)
Thank you for answering.

What is interference motor ? It is 370Z AT7.

An interference motor is when the pistons can hit the valves. Either from a broken timing belt/chain or if the motor is spun too fast and the valve springs cannot pull the valves back fast enough.

Some motors have either reliefs cut into the pistons or the combustion chamber is large enough to allow for clearance. It has nothing to do with tranny or options, but rather engine design.

If we have an interference motor and you spun it too fast, you can get minor valve/piston damage. But it sounds like you are going to be fine.

jookiyaya 10-24-2009 10:47 PM

of course thats bad. thats what i did to my type R and ended up ruining my syncros which causes grinding in 3rd. i had to replace the rings which the body shop did a crappy job of when they had to open up my transmission and it was never the same since.... so be careful ^_^

nicknick 10-25-2009 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Supremo (Post 250346)
So, you are even more careful than me ! I cannot resist unfortunately... BUt the 7500 rpm for me an important barrier not to be over, however I guessed that even 8000 is not harmful as Chris stated...

The redline is there for a reason. Does the computer record this, if so could the dealer use it to void your warrantly? additionally isn't there a rev limiter on this car?

kensin0429 10-25-2009 06:52 PM

first time hearing a car owner is afraid of reving....why buy this car then..

Matt 10-25-2009 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kensin0429 (Post 252115)
first time hearing a car owner is afraid of reving....why buy this car then..

Reving =/= Red-lining :shakes head:

EDIT:

I took my Z out tonight for a little drive to push it past 5k RPM for the first time ever. I almost hit 6k RPM in 3rd gear before shifting to 4th, and it definitely didn't feel smooth RPM'ing that high. Obviously the cars I've driven before weren't sports cars, but the difference between RPM'ing at 3k and 5k in my Scion tC was the sound...the car didn't feel any different. My 6k RPM felt "abrasive" on the throttle and didn't sound as pretty as 4k does. Is that normal? Very noob question, I know...first time I've ever gone over 5k RPM in ANY car.

Matt 10-25-2009 09:06 PM

http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...high-revs.html

If anyone is interested, I found the answer to my own question in that thread.

Is something that we have to live with or does it get better with a few thousand miles on the engine? I'm not sure I'll ever get into the 6k range again to avoid this harshness, unless it's absolutely normal and harmless.

nuts4nissan09 11-29-2009 02:13 PM

High rpm harshness
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt (Post 252368)
http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...high-revs.html

If anyone is interested, I found the answer to my own question in that thread.

Is something that we have to live with or does it get better with a few thousand miles on the engine? I'm not sure I'll ever get into the 6k range again to avoid this harshness, unless it's absolutely normal and harmless.

I have around 8,500miles on mine. I drive mostly on the backroads and frequently accelerate hard. The harshness everyone is talking about is still there, but is much less than it was @ break-in (2,000 miles). Use a quality synthetic and have fun with the car. These VQ's age well (take a while to really break-in).

davidyan 12-02-2009 09:46 PM

An interference engine is one in which if the timing belt breaks, and the valves come fully down, they don't come down far enough to make contact with the piston, thus saving your engine. Typically, an interference engine results in lower compression so its not likely that the Z has it. Again its designed for when the belt / chain breaks not so much for when the valves completely float due to overreving, so it may only be of minimal help in that case. But, if you haven't noticed any rough idle by now you should probably be fine.

I come from a Toyota Celica GT-S (2000) before the Z and many people used to misshift that car all the time due to the tight gearbox and ended up blowing their engines. It got so bad, Toyota actually replaced most of the engines under warranty. Some people were out of luck if they went to a tough dealership to get it fixed.

j.arnaldo 12-04-2009 01:54 PM

No noises? no misses? no problemos? Don't worry 'bout it!!


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