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209Z 04-16-2015 10:38 PM

CSC and a Clutch question?
 
So my Z Just hit 67k and is in need of a new clutch. I am leaning towards JWT. But I heard anytime you upgrade the clutch you need to get a new CSC? I daily this car and track it maybe 3 times a year. people tell me that CSC will fail sooner or later so should I get the CSC now to save me the trouble or would I be okay to just get the JWT clutch. I am on a budget and not looking to spend a grip. Your suggestions are very much appreciated .

dP3NGU1N 04-16-2015 11:10 PM

Swap it out for an HD CSC. It's not that much more.

BOLIO 671 04-17-2015 02:41 AM

:iagree:

You should just swap it out....u will actually save time or money on the labor because your already in there to change the clutch and pressure plate....an aftermarket clutch and pressure plate will wear ur CSC out then u will end up paying more (time/$$$) to have the transmission taken down again. The OEM CSC is made of Plastic and Rubber material.....The HD CSC out in the market are superior in quality and performance. It's well worth the money to avoid the headache

Merv 04-17-2015 06:45 AM

I believe z1(a forum sponsor) has a csc elimination kit that's worth looking into.

http://www.the370z.com/drivetrain-en...limination+kit

njobe89 04-17-2015 07:54 AM

i think what's more impressive here is that you're at 67k and the csc hasn't failed on you yet lol. i have hope for mine then :D

kenchan 04-17-2015 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by njobe89 (Post 3171500)
i think what's more impressive here is that you're at 67k and the csc hasn't failed on you yet lol. i have hope for mine then :D

clifford has a nismo with 70k or something he said and his is fine too.

i think you either get a defective one, or people are just too brutal on their clutches.

that said, id swap for the aftermarket csc while the tech has the tranny apart just to rid this potential failure all together.

kenchan 04-17-2015 09:32 AM

then next week... crap my engine quit after a hard right turn..? :ugh:

njobe89 04-17-2015 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3171565)
clifford has a nismo with 70k or something he said and his is fine too.

i think you either get a defective one, or people are just too brutal on their clutches.

that said, id swap for the aftermarket csc while the tech has the tranny apart just to rid this potential failure all together.

:iagree:

Chuck33079 04-17-2015 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by njobe89 (Post 3171593)
:iagree:

Except that it looks like a huge percentage of them are defective since it's an incredibly failure prone design. Plastic never should have been used. This was the accountants overruling the engineers.

njobe89 04-17-2015 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3171596)
Except that it looks like a huge percentage of them are defective since it's an incredibly failure prone design. Plastic never should have been used. This was the accountants overruling the engineers.

lol probably... but, yes the plastic fails and wham bam the csc went out.

209Z 04-17-2015 10:14 AM

So now the question zspeed or z1 csc? Leaning towards the zspeed because it is a good a price.

Chuck33079 04-17-2015 10:34 AM

The Z1 is a better solution. The ZSpeed has more of a proven track record. You won't really go wrong with either.

cigarclifford 04-17-2015 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3171565)
clifford has a nismo with 70k or something he said and his is fine too.

i think you either get a defective one, or people are just too brutal on their clutches.

that said, id swap for the aftermarket csc while the tech has the tranny apart just to rid this potential failure all together.

Greeting's Doctor Ken Chan, you are correct and have logged 75,000 miles
with zero issues as of to date. As the forum knows Clifford daily drives
his 2010 Nismo and pays attention to every fluid change and always
follows a comprehensive maintenance schedule. I am not a mechanic but
buy joining the 370Z forum I have learned a lot from sincere posters that
are here to help all of us.

-Clifford :tiphat:

Haboob 04-17-2015 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3171596)
Except that it looks like a huge percentage of them are defective since it's an incredibly failure prone design. Plastic never should have been used. This was the accountants overruling the engineers.

I wonder if weather conditions (too cold or too hot (parking/sitting in the sun)) that contributed to the plastic wearing or becoming brittle and failing?

I am every wary of mine failing, but I can't just go out and buy one right now. I can't spend that kind of money unless I have to, unfortunately.

Chuck33079 04-17-2015 10:55 AM

It's a $300 part. Why not buy one and mothball it for when the stock unit fails?

Haboob 04-17-2015 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3171660)
It's a $300 part. Why not buy one and mothball it for when the stock unit fails?

Because I want that $300 to put towards paying off my wheels/tires/laptop instead. :icon17:

We'll see. I almost want to just replace it now to avoid having to push my car to the side of the freeway in rush-hour traffic.

njobe89 04-17-2015 11:01 AM

here is a question, when it fails... do you have to replace the clutch as well?
i know since you're dropping everything it might be a good idea to do it, but if your car has less then 30,000 miles when it goes out the clutch should still be pretty good.

Haboob 04-17-2015 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njobe89 (Post 3171669)
here is a question, when it fails... do you have to replace the clutch as well?
i know since you're dropping everything it might be a good idea to do it, but if your car has less then 30,000 miles when it goes out the clutch should still be pretty good.

I wouldn't think you'd have to replace the clutch unless it's necessary to do so.

I had a stock clutch last 130k+ on my SRT (with a lot of hard driving/drag racing at the strip on it). Only thing I ever had to replace was the shift fork that finally wore out.

I'm hoping to get the same out of this clutch, if I even keep the car for that long.

mishuko 04-17-2015 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3171565)
clifford has a nismo with 70k or something he said and his is fine too.

i think you either get a defective one, or people are just too brutal on their clutches.

that said, id swap for the aftermarket csc while the tech has the tranny apart just to rid this potential failure all together.

Ken when i read something in another post from you about not shifting as much in stop and go i actually realized it helps a lot. i stick in 3rd or 2nd depending on speed until it gets to almost stall point now. much easier than shifting into n then 1 then back then ughhhh

also my weak leg isn't used to this entire week of DD'ing. i have shin splints :shakes head:

i try not to abuse the clutch/ride it too much/smash it hard but i know i get a little excited when i WOT to redline and push a bit aggressively. i am more aware now but i'm attributing to my amateur skill.

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Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 3171674)
I wouldn't think you'd have to replace the clutch unless it's necessary to do so.I had a stock clutch last 130k+ on my SRT (with a lot of hard driving/drag racing at the strip on it). Only thing I ever had to replace was the shift fork that finally wore out.

I'm hoping to get the same out of this clutch, if I even keep the car for that long.


i agree with this line. unless you planon FI then why bother? if you can do a 5th gear haul without slip / still stall in first i think your clutch is still in good shape.

Chuck33079 04-17-2015 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njobe89 (Post 3171669)
here is a question, when it fails... do you have to replace the clutch as well?
i know since you're dropping everything it might be a good idea to do it, but if your car has less then 30,000 miles when it goes out the clutch should still be pretty good.

It depends. If the csc seals give out and the clutch disc is soaked in fluid, you're probably going to need a new clutch.

kenchan 04-17-2015 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mishuko (Post 3171924)
Ken when i read something in another post from you about not shifting as much in stop and go i actually realized it helps a lot. i stick in 3rd or 2nd depending on speed until it gets to almost stall point now. much easier than shifting into n then 1 then back then ughhhh

also my weak leg isn't used to this entire week of DD'ing. i have shin splints :shakes head:

i try not to abuse the clutch/ride it too much/smash it hard but i know i get a little excited when i WOT to redline and push a bit aggressively. i am more aware now but i'm attributing to my amateur skill.

glad to help, mishuko. :tup:

yah, just dont bang the clutch in or out.

kenchan 04-17-2015 03:44 PM

for kicks and giggles, my steering lock is still working..

209Z 04-17-2015 10:24 PM

Just bought a new master cyliner. Zspeed csc and a JWT clutch. Got it all for a good price thanks to kyle and joe! Now time to save up for some new rims ;)

jdsto 04-18-2015 07:11 AM

The RJM clutch pedal will also make your commuting more comfortable. They also claim that it reduces the stress on the CSC. I think they may claim that cars with the clutch pedal have not experienced CSC failures.

kenchan 04-18-2015 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 209Z (Post 3172256)
Just bought a new master cyliner. Zspeed csc and a JWT clutch. Got it all for a good price thanks to kyle and joe! Now time to save up for some new rims ;)

awesome! :tup:

was it zspeed that made the lower shroud? if so, toss that in there too..! lol

flashgordon 04-19-2015 11:18 AM

I bought this kit and works perfectly:

ZSpeed Performance South Bend Complete Clutch Package Stage 2 Daily 370 G37 G35

njobe89 04-20-2015 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3171926)
It depends. If the csc seals give out and the clutch disc is soaked in fluid, you're probably going to need a new clutch.

this... new it was something about that, just couldn't remember what :D


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