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It's like an FR-S for grown ups. :icon17:

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I thought it was a boxster for men.

I really think its a very American muscle car mentality thing to go fast from 0-60. The feeling of accelration is probably the best one on earth. Ripping off the line is pure chaos and there nothing not to love about it. The reason I love my Z is because its equally as fast as those cars after all the bolt ons and a tune, and it is one of the best handling cars around. Personally id rather be connected to the road on a twisty forest trail, and feel like my car is on rails and nimble, with a lot of growl. Hitting the apex and roaring out of it knowing the car is planted...That is exactly what the z gives me. What I always found mind-blowing, beyond 0-60, is coming up on a boosted Porsche and watching the top end speed. The way they absolutely scream from 60-100+ is mind boggling, and a sight to behold. Had the honor of being in 1k+ hp 996 and it was fine off the line, but when that boost hit, my gawd. New underwear please.

I am going to start a new threat about Z's towing capacity

I know what you mean but it has to be the right chassis. I could break the tires lose in the Shelby......going 90....with 1/2 a pedal with the wrong down shift. You never get tired of that SC whine but if people say a z is an impractical car...they should try owning one. A 500 makes a z look like a very practical car considering you can't drive GT500 in the rain without spinning out, or with temps below 40 without different tires etc. While I'm sure that porshe was world's better, at 1k hp I'm sure it had similiar issues.

Still, if handling was your number one priority you wouldn't own a Z. You would own one of the other cars I've had.....an RX8.

The RX8 makes a z look like a slouch in the handling dept as does a miata. I still have not driven the praised brz but I assume the Rx8 still handles better

Having owned all these cars I think what the z gives you is a much better balance of all of these various attributes. Only been in the car for a week, but that's my first imprrssion

The sarcasm here infers that like towing capacity, horse power and acceleration are asanine things to discuss.....in a dedicated sports car??? :gtfo2:

the z is not for spec racers.

That's why I asked about real world performance. (See original post). I don't have much REAL world seat time either IN or AGAINST the z.

Can't wait to take it to the dragons tail though.

there you go. this car is very balanced for street driving and complete in many ways.

I haven't lost to a mustang yet at the drag strip. It handles just as good as an Rx8 and auto crosses well with good tires and a sway bar.
The Z is a winner Enjoy it!

Hmmm, I've yet to drive an RX8 or Miata but I have driven an FR-S (BRZ clone)...

The Scibaru IMO wasn't noticeably better handling-wise than the Z, but then again it was a test drive and I wasn't thrashing it or anything. What it WAS though was noticeably gutless and cheap-feeling. No thanks.:barf:

I'd own a Miata only if it were a dedicated track car that I didn't care about and nobody I knew was ever going to see me in it. Even then I'd consider a v8 swap because they're so slow.:rofl2:

The RX8 is a terrible looking automobile and I doubt I could bring myself to own one even if it were as good as a 911 (which it obviously isn't).

When passing up on the 5.0 Mustang I sacrificed some power, some classic good looks, and possibly the best aftermarket in all of motoring. But I got something that looks like a factory race car, isn't all that common, and performance-wise does everything better than average.:tup:

FULL DISCLOSURE: What I really want is a Lotus Exige S. Not the wussy NA Elise ragtop, but the supercharged 260hp 0-60 in 4 seconds + handles like a go-cart one. It's possibly the only car I could ever even remotely afford that I'd ditch my NISMO to get.

It sounds like you've never really owned a balanced car. The gt500 and the Rx8 are polar opposites. That's the beauty of the Z is it slots in the middle and is a more balanced car in both departments. Porsche does this recipe even better but it comes at a premium. You'll never see a Porsche with GT500 hp from the factory without the chassis/suspension engineering to back it up. Monster motors with chassis/suspension as an after thought is very much a domestic thing.

i had to double check the web address to make sure i wasn't on a brz/frs forum reading through this thread