Thoughts about this "car enthusiast"
 

THanks felllasss can delete

just two diff Points of views isall lol

I mean car enthusiast means a lot of different things to different people. I have a friend whose a car enthusiast for sure but has a 2003 Mach 1 with no mods and only takes it out once or twice a month. it has 35000 miles on it. I on the other hand I put 100,000 miles on my GTI in 3 years. Its all about what you personally believe in. nothing wrong with building a car to personally just enjoy building.

Now first you gotta find yourself a car club
Oh your analyst will tell you where they are
Read sports car magazines
Sneer at all the new machines
Then who says ya gotta buy a car

Ah next you gotta buy yourself a helmet
Smudge it a little with some tar
Draw speed charts on your walls
Flame proof your coveralls
And who says ya gotta buy a car?

Don’t call windshields anything but windscreens
Don’t call Bugatti’s anything but bugs
And if they start talking about the heat range
Be sure to mumble wisely, sparking plugs

Then buy a bag of trophies at a hock shop
Wince some times and say it’s just a scare
Brag your Jag’s a total loss
Make a call to Sterling Moss
And who says ya gotta buy a car

Furthermore just talk about the formula for F1
Say Lance won’t take the Scarab very far
Mention you would like to miss
Indianapolis
And who says ya gotta buy a car

Laugh it up at auto transmissions
Boast you double clutch without a jar
Drink a toast for Roger Ward
And a pox on Henry Ford
And who says ya gotta buy a car

Talk about the need for proper cornering
Boast of hairpin turns at 120 miles per hour
Say you’re ashamed they weren’t faster
But a three and a half liter doesn’t have the power

Ah when you pile the bull up to the ceiling
Treat ‘em all to Irish at the bar
Man they’ll all be really sent
They’ll elect you president
So who says ya gotta buy a car
You don’t even need a license
Who says ya gotta buy a car.

From Sports Car Songs for Big Wheels, Oscar Brand

Don't need a car if you aren't going to drive it.

Maybe stop giving other people **** and don't worry so much about a car that isn't yours.

Yep. thatll work too, but its hard if whenever all he does it just talk about a car he don't even drive to you all day lol

all. day. every. day.
-just tryin to help him out in the long run so he doesn't wipe out and total his shirt nor hurt anyone else due to the fact he doesn't want to learn his car. but I guess I couldn't care lol

Sounds more like an ***-hole than an enthusiast....

Enjoy it, destroy it, rebuild it, repeat.

This is definately a car that you don't just learn to drive over night. Besides getting use to the power,you need to get use to how it corners,breaks etc... I was pleasantly surprised at how it handled from stock. Car is very agile. Then once you start throwing on hp mods and suspension mods,then you have to learn all over again.
Tell your friend to take it out to a few autox events. Have fun with it at the same time learning how to drive it to its full potential in a safe and controlled environment. :driving:

he's smart for not putting useless miles on his car

basically if you dont know how to drive MT you're not a car enthusiast.


lol..

I have to agree. You don't need to think they're better than dual clutch trans, but you have to be able to respect the manual trans. Its like a pre-req.

You also have to like cloth seats
And hatch backs
And hate moon roofs
And auto start/stop

if you have never push-started a car, you're not a true car enthusiast..


lol..

if you're a car enthusiast, you are amazed by how much info magazine-spec-racers know statistics.

wow..

Let him build it. I know it irks you because you have a different mentality. You're a driver. He's a trophy collector who buys something shiny and wants to keep it that way, which is totally fine bc that's what he wants to do.

Yeah sounds like your bud it building a show car - If his primary goal is to go to meets etc.

Absolutely nothing wrong with that. If he wanted to get involved in Motorsports and was building a car he didn't drive - Then that is not logical.

Just ask him to clarify what his goals are for his build and be respectful of the answer.

Well....
 

I half know where he's coming from. I won't take mine out if it's raining or it looks like I might get caught in it, but if I do, well, that's the way it goes.
I also store it in the winter, and we don't even get winters here.
I bought it as a 'toy'. I went the last 15 years without a car and nothing has changed. I didn't need to buy a car. After 15 years of not owning a car, owning one now seems almost alien to me.
Anyway, newsflash! .....it's HIS car, not yours. I'd maybe, just maybe start listening to your opinion and start driving it the day you started paying for my mods.
Sorry, just my opinion. I'm sure it's a huge pain in the *** to have to listen to him all the time, but rather than come here looking for advice, just tell him to STFU.

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Lols good stuff fellas. Two diff mind Sets.

To me a car enthusiast is one who loves cars regardless of make or year and who can appreciate a well maintained car. I hate people who say "ew that car is so old" even though it may drive way better than their 2015 BMW or whatever they have. People who place too much emphasis on having the newest really irk me. I recently picked up a 2000 altim SE as my daily driver to keep miles off the Nismo and my friends are giving me so much crap saying "dude it's so old I won't wanna be seen in that". Except I know what I'm looking for with a used car and only bought it because it's mint and can guarantee it runs better than their newer cars. Those people are examples of what a car enthusiast is NOT.

When I got my first real sports car '94 RX7 (purchased in '02 as a gift to myself for graduating from college) I went through a similar moment as your friend. Kept it in my mom and dads garage, threw every penny I had at it, wouldn't drive it in the rain, told people how I wanted to track it, kept driving around in my beater Camry. Then one day about a year or so later, I got a good paying job. All of a sudden I felt like I could put a beating on the car and actually afford to maintain it, fix it, modify it. To truly enjoy it.

On that day I realized the difference between being able to buy something and being able to afford it. I would never again buy a car I couldn't afford to use in the way that I wanted to.

Don't get me wrong I am always tempted. I almost bought a used Porsche before I got the 370. Then I started thinking about the story above. I can afford to use the 370 on the track, I can afford the mods I want. The Porsche would have been another car sitting in a garage waiting for a sunny day and worrying about the next maintenance bill.

sports car enthusiast can probably mean a lot of things but to me it means being able to enjoy the car for what was meant for... speed.

Ok so in conclusion based from your logical reasoning.

Mr. Jay Leno is not a "car enthusiast" as he keeps most of his cars in his garage and not hardly drive most of them?


Anyway what do I know Im not a car enthusiast. I just love cars.

forgot to answer your question..

car enthusiasts dont drive g37s's. :shakes head:



;)


i drive my new hobby cars in the rain (the only time i drive them in the rain is while new or major sus change) to do potential check of the car. easier to find potentials at lower speeds in the wet. and of course i dont use VDC.

once i get the hang of the car i dont drive the car EVER in the rain cause i hate washing cars. :mad: i washed my Z 3x max since taking ownership in 2009. and i never use VDC.

Just never mind,get in your car and drive the piss out of it! Lol.
I'm taking my car out right now while it's raining,turning off traction control and beat on her a bit,and why,because race car haha!

Oh,and I just spent 15 bucks washing her yesterday!

you now need to invest $150+ to get all them swirls out... not to forget the hazing damage done to your headlamps that you cant see until yellowing. :ugh:

brother Merv, I am at 74,800 miles and daily drive my 2010 Nismo :usa:

wishing you well :tup:

-Clifford

Now as far as true car enthusiast is concerned. It's someone who respects cars for all their strengths and weaknesses. I didn't buy a Camaro SS and Mustang GT because I see too many of them on the road and wanted a little exclusivity. I know they're more powerful and can straight line perform better than ours on paper, but I'm currently working on my driving skills to take them on the track. Do i still like and respect them? Yes. I think they're great looking cars and I give them the thumbs up and props when I one smiling at me through the window. We RWD guys are a certain breed, we need to walk that line between grip and slip to get our adrenaline pumping. For that I commend anyone willing to drive our cars daily. Swirls and environmental damage to our paint is inevitable. I'll spend 2 times a year detailing the crap out of the car and its ME time and oh well it happens. I bought a sports car and drive it as such. Not a Louis Vuitton purse to take out on special occasions.

Ranting a little on how much I love my car and cars in general.

not sure who this was aimed at, but I bored and wanted to rack up another post.

Ol' JJ (that's what I call him because we are friends) has enough money to pretty much do whatever he wants and carries the label of car god which encompasses: enthusiast, collector, driver, aficionado, connoisseur, etc.

:tup:

jay is more a car collector to me which is absolutely fine.

you need rich folks to spend wads of cash so car manufactures can spend some leftover cash to design stuff for us poor folks. let the rich have their moments in the spot light cause it can also benefit you.

Well... The plan is to buy amuse kit,get it painted and possibly do a venal wrap at some point! But I hear Ya bro!

Oh I should have clarified I was referring to the thread starter.
I did not not notice My post was after yours. Your thoughts are good.

Btw send my regards to your pal JJ.
:tup:
Me too...bored and have nothing better to do. Lol

I drive the **** out the G sooo :tiphat: trolllyfe.

prolly the most I ever posted here lols

I just read the first post..not going to read the rest of the pages because well i dont care

It does not matter if your friend does not drive his car, look around this forum ..i can bet you, you will find people who have not driven their z for atleast a year because they were in shops being built.

I personally know many people who build their cars without ever driving it for months because they have dreams for it and just dont feel right yet.
You sound like a **** for giving him ****. Its his car, his build, and hes going to have fun. Trust me.

Your friend seems to be a real enthusiast.its not easy having a z and not drive it. But hes patient, something many people lack.

People do all kinds of **** with their cars, let em have fun.

yeah I know they in shops then that's a diff reason, but its all good me and him just agree to disagree, his Z isn't in a shop is all lol. but he just don't wanna daily for impracticality :ugh2: its Gucci.

u need to be ratedz to qualify. :icon17:

Z is last in the alphabet though :xmas3:

but first in our hearts...

that was......... right in the feels.. :eek: much intimate