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Old 12-26-2019, 03:41 PM   #4681 (permalink)
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Can we talk about how Toyota is actually putting money into developing, producing and selling this:

https://www.motor1.com/features/3890...totype-review/



They had to cram an AWD system, convert from 4dr to 2dr, slap on widebody, and drop in a turbo 1.3L 3cyl with a manual transmission into a Yaris, just to compete in some Rally championship

How is this gonna turn a profit?

But Toyota had to make the "financial" decision to partner on the Supra/Z4

I get that Toyota is doing way better than Nissan these days but holy crap, i can't believe they're basically making their version of the 22b in 2020. It's the antithesis of automatic transmission, hybrid powertrain, crossover SUV crap that everyone's doing

id be all over this if they sold it in america

2600 lbs
250 hp
awd
turbo
6spd manual
widebody

blargh it is basically a first generation STi. Apparently they need to sell 25,000 of these to homologate it for racing. they should really let US buyers help with that, cost be damned

Meanwhile, Nissan is just trying to figure out whether to put their ex CEO in jail
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Can we talk about how Toyota is actually putting money into developing, producing and selling this:

https://www.motor1.com/features/3890...totype-review/



They had to cram an AWD system, convert from 4dr to 2dr, slap on widebody, and drop in a turbo 1.3L 3cyl with a manual transmission into a Yaris, just to compete in some Rally championship

How is this gonna turn a profit?

But Toyota had to make the "financial" decision to partner on the Supra/Z4

I get that Toyota is doing way better than Nissan these days but holy crap, i can't believe they're basically making their version of the 22b in 2020. It's the antithesis of automatic transmission, hybrid powertrain, crossover SUV crap that everyone's doing

id be all over this if they sold it in america

2600 lbs
250 hp
awd
turbo
6spd manual
widebody

blargh it is basically a first generation STi. Apparently they need to sell 25,000 of these to homologate it for racing. they should really let US buyers help with that, cost be damned

Meanwhile, Nissan is just trying to figure out whether to put their ex CEO in jail
Uhhh... what the heck is that?
That's not a sports car. Some sort of hatchback.

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it will probably be more fun out of the box than anything you can buy from either toyota or nissan in 2020
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Can we talk about how Toyota is actually putting money into developing, producing and selling this:

https://www.motor1.com/features/3890...totype-review/



They had to cram an AWD system, convert from 4dr to 2dr, slap on widebody, and drop in a turbo 1.3L 3cyl with a manual transmission into a Yaris, just to compete in some Rally championship

How is this gonna turn a profit?

But Toyota had to make the "financial" decision to partner on the Supra/Z4

I get that Toyota is doing way better than Nissan these days but holy crap, i can't believe they're basically making their version of the 22b in 2020. It's the antithesis of automatic transmission, hybrid powertrain, crossover SUV crap that everyone's doing

id be all over this if they sold it in america

2600 lbs
250 hp
awd
turbo
6spd manual
widebody

blargh it is basically a first generation STi. Apparently they need to sell 25,000 of these to homologate it for racing. they should really let US buyers help with that, cost be damned

Meanwhile, Nissan is just trying to figure out whether to put their ex CEO in jail
I came in for an highly unlikely Z35 update

Please keep Toyota's discussions in the other cars section where they belong.
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Please keep Toyota's discussions in the other cars section where they belong.
Yeah.......get that Toyota chit out of here. Only what to read about the next Z that ain't coming until 2030.
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An administrator on the GTRlife forum posted that a Japanese magazine is saying Z35 won’t arrive until ‘25. What we get before that is a highly revised Z34 for ‘21 with new front end, interior and 3.0T motor. That mule at the ring could have simply been testing the current car with the new motor. Who knows but thought I’d pass it along.
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I'm going to hate to know what will the new Z will be like 2025. Maybe a 4 cyn turbo.
Its probably a good idea what Infiniti uses in the coming yrs

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LOL, the Club Sport that MA did was the first test mule. That build was sponsored by Nissan Nismo division.

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When there's a new engine option (and new front end for sure), doesn't Nissan have to re-certified for both collision standards and emissions tests?

Seems like alot of work to do a "modified" Z34 chassis with the 3.0T and go through all the paperwork just for it to be a stopgap

but hey, if there are good parts for us to scrounge, go for it
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When there's a new engine option (and new front end for sure), doesn't Nissan have to re-certified for both collision standards and emissions tests?

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The engine would have to be certified for sure. By reusing an engine out of another car. It won't take much to certified it. If it was a whole new engine. Yeah, that would take longer.

If they just change the bumper cover. It might not need to be certified for that. If they make changes to the frame, bumper support. That would need to be certified.
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The engine would have to be certified for sure. By reusing an engine out of another car. It won't take much to certified it. If it was a whole new engine. Yeah, that would take longer.

If they just change the bumper cover. It might not need to be certified for that. If they make changes to the frame, bumper support. That would need to be certified.
The post said “drastically different front end”.
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The post said “drastically different front end”.
You can change the hood, fenders, headlights and bumper cover, and make it look drastic. Wouldn't be that much work on the frame. I don't see them making major changes on the frame to make it look "drastic". It would cost too much.
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