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Originally Posted by triso07 Want to see what the current 1LE Camaro offers for 46k ... V8 455 horsepower 6-speed manual transmission Magnetic Ride Control electronic limited-slip differential Forged-aluminum wheels

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Old 01-10-2017, 07:00 PM   #2956 (permalink)
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Want to see what the current 1LE Camaro offers for 46k ...

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you don't even need to go the 1LE route, the 1ss can be had for the same price as a base sport 370 and at the same time run laps around the z34 nismo, granted you won't have the same experience, but physics can't be argued with.

nothing new here, times moved on and nissan didn't, or I should say Carlos Ghon the nissan CEO didn't.

If you watch a very old jay lennos garage episode he goes to japan and talk to the Z designer, he says everything is in process and just waiting the green light from the administration, unfortunately Carlos just like all other CEO's is milking the mass market cars and propping up the brand with the flagship GTR, meanwhile leaving the red headed step child Z behind until he feels like he milked every other segment.

When will that be? only Carlos knows, but I can tell you right now the japanese nissan board isn't complaining, the company is thriving and making money.

What they did with the Z letting it go for so long without any 'upgrades' or even remedies like the CSC fix just shows you blatantly they do not care for the Z since there market is so saturated and there is no money there, meaning they would have to make a superior product, meaning they would have to invest a lot of R&D into the platform that just does not generate the revenue.

Look how many maximas they sold in one year then look at how many Z's, its pure business.

I hope the next gen is around the corner, but honestly at this point I lost interest and moved on to the c7 platform, you can pick up a brand new vette for the price of a nismo Z and have a much wider grin on your face.

It's really sad that we may see a C8 before we see the next gen Z.
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you don't even need to go the 1LE route, the 1ss can be had for the same price as a base sport 370 and at the same time run laps around the z34 nismo, granted you won't have the same experience, but physics can't be argued with.

nothing new here, times moved on and nissan didn't, or I should say Carlos Ghon the nissan CEO didn't.

If you watch a very old jay lennos garage episode he goes to japan and talk to the Z designer, he says everything is in process and just waiting the green light from the administration, unfortunately Carlos just like all other CEO's is milking the mass market cars and propping up the brand with the flagship GTR, meanwhile leaving the red headed step child Z behind until he feels like he milked every other segment.

When will that be? only Carlos knows, but I can tell you right now the japanese nissan board isn't complaining, the company is thriving and making money.

What they did with the Z letting it go for so long without any 'upgrades' or even remedies like the CSC fix just shows you blatantly they do not care for the Z since there market is so saturated and there is no money there, meaning they would have to make a superior product, meaning they would have to invest a lot of R&D into the platform that just does not generate the revenue.

Look how many maximas they sold in one year then look at how many Z's, its pure business.

I hope the next gen is around the corner, but honestly at this point I lost interest and moved on to the c7 platform, you can pick up a brand new vette for the price of a nismo Z and have a much wider grin on your face.

It's really sad that we may see a C8 before we see the next gen Z.


Yup yup and yup, you will see the new C8 before the next gen Z..
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What **** are you trying to talk about the Evo exactly? The car has AWD, a great suspension and braking system, Recaro seats, and a DCT for under 40k and came with around 300hp stock (go ahead and correct me here Ricer about the exact HP/Torque figure, since I know the 5hp will make all the difference to you). That was in 2008.
LOL. The Evo is irrelevant, chief. It's not in production anymore. Criticisms aside, the 370Z still is.

Care to give me your best generalization as to why you think that is?
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You guys really need to stop saying this. All this they can't do it stuff is nonsense. They can, they just aren't.

No one is saying build a car with a carbon fiber tub, 500hp motor, carbon ceramic brakes, and electronic suspension and sell it to me for 40k. These requests are not unrealistic despite the fact you keep saying they are.

Don't tell me a DCT is unrealistic either as my goddamn Mitsubishi Evo has one and cost under 40k brand new.
You don't get it either. They can't because not enough people are buying them. Comparing GM to Nissan is comparing apples to oranges. GM probably sells 10 times as many camaros. Once again, it's a money thing. Go yell at everyone you know and tell them to buy one. At least give Nissan a case to build a damn Z again.
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Ricer you need to relax with your specific cost figures. I'm generalizing clearly.

Also, do you guys work for Nissan? You seem to know a lot about their business and what is or is not cost prohibitive.

What **** are you trying to talk about the Evo exactly? The car has AWD, a great suspension and braking system, Recaro seats, and a DCT for under 40k and came with around 300hp stock (go ahead and correct me here Ricer about the exact HP/Torque figure, since I know the 5hp will make all the difference to you). That was in 2008.

Somehow what I listed is unreasonable super car territory to a few of you lol.
And no one bought the evo, so they eventually killed it off. True story. Also, worst car interior of life in that thing. No wonder no one bought it.

Also, none of the other cars listed come in anywhere near 3000-3100 pounds. Just saying.
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it's easy as 2+2 = 4... the less you sell of a car the less they will care about it. the more you sell the more it will be re-touched and get new things to it. (unless you enter super car territory)

198 pages of nothing but straight shiat, no one knows if there will or will not be another z. if you are looking for more fun and have the funds; a) boost your z or b) get a different car

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So much waywardly driven opinion and over speculation it's unreal. Lol. You guys are hysterical!!!

What can be built is not being built by Nissan. It's being built by Kia. Alfa Romeo and even kinda sorta Toyota. Damn. Did I just say that?

Nissan is washed the fvck up.

They can't get over the fact that

1. We hate CVT in anything MEANT FOR SPORTS.
2. We hate FULL Electric steering
3. We hate electric e brakes.

We love the VR engine.
We love analog sports cars that are both powerful and light.

But NISSAN DOESNT GIVE A FVCK!!!!
They want EV' s and pansymobiles.

The GTR is there so people think they're in the closet reading out magazine.
Nissan Mangina's don't know how to come out the closet and say the rogue is what they feel a sports car should be.

GET OVER IT!!
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So much waywardly driven opinion and over speculation it's unreal. Lol. You guys are hysterical!!!



What can be built is not being built by Nissan. It's being built by Kia. Alfa Romeo and even kinda sorta Toyota. Damn. Did I just say that?



Nissan is washed the fvck up.



They can't get over the fact that



1. We hate CVT in anything MEANT FOR SPORTS.

2. We hate FULL Electric steering

3. We hate electric e brakes.



We love the VR engine.

We love analog sports cars that are both powerful and light.



But NISSAN DOESNT GIVE A FVCK!!!!

They want EV' s and pansymobiles.



The GTR is there so people think they're in the closet reading out magazine.

Nissan Mangina's don't know how to come out the closet and say the rogue is what they feel a sports car should be.



GET OVER IT!!


Sadly I think you're right or on the right track.

There hasn't even been a hint or even some wild rumor in forever about another Z.

Maybe it's time to hang up the pipe dream of a new Z with the VR TT in it.

On the bright side plenty of good cars from other companies to choose from currently.
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Sadly I think you're right or on the right track.

There hasn't even been a hint or even some wild rumor in forever about another Z.

Maybe it's time to hang up the pipe dream of a new Z with the VR TT in it.

On the bright side plenty of good cars from other companies to choose from currently.
Yup... as far as sporty cars go - the new Miata is honestly seriously compelling. However, if I'm not as concerned about being somewhat frugal with my sports car money, I'm after a ZL1 or a C7 GS.
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Yup... as far as sporty cars go - the new Miata is honestly seriously compelling. However, if I'm not as concerned about being somewhat frugal with my sports car money, I'm after a ZL1 or a C7 GS.


Woah now....bro....Miata? And I thought you were cool for so long.
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Sadly I think you're right or on the right track.

There hasn't even been a hint or even some wild rumor in forever about another Z.

Maybe it's time to hang up the pipe dream of a new Z with the VR TT in it.

On the bright side plenty of good cars from other companies to choose from currently.
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I prefer to buy cars that I don't see every stinking day. There's not a day that goes by that I don't see 6 or more 'Vettes, and a shitpot full of Camaros and Moostangs.
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Actually the Z is not the only car Nissan messed up. All the cars and suvs sharing our FM platform and VQ power train are long overdue. The Infiniti Q70 (M series) and QX70 (FX series) were debuted in 2009. The QX50 (EX series) was in 2007. Both QXs are luxury suvs and supposed to be the highest priority in today's market if they want to make profit and increase market share. Nissan chose to do nothing.
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Woah now....bro....Miata? And I thought you were cool for so long.
This coming from Captain Automatic himself

Truthfully, I would have had the same response you just did had I not recently driven one. The damn thing is fun, and not a ton slower than a Z... mainly because it's roughly 900lbs lighter on average.

It is definitely a whole lot better looking now than it ever has been. PIC FOR EFFECT:


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Truthfully, I would have had the same response you just did had I not recently driven one. The damn thing is fun, and not a ton slower than a Z... mainly because it's roughly 900lbs lighter on average.

It is definitely a whole lot better looking now than it ever has been. PIC FOR EFFECT:


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It still looks like you've seen one up close if you own a miata.....

Think about it lol
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