The rest of my csc story
 

Last year I posted about the multiple clutch failures of my 2009 Z. The dealer blamed the DOT. It kept happening. I did contact corporate offices in Tennessee. They "regretted" what happened but would not help me. The warranty expired in October when it when down time number 3 in November...and #4 in December. So, I got angry and traded it. I loved that car and the 6spd tranny. I traded it on a 2010 Dodge Challenger RT. The car is wickedly fast, like new (20K miles) and everyone loves it...but me. I have had sportscars since 1979. Yep, 6 Rx7s and one Z. The Dodge looks brand new but I feel like a captain piloting a barge down the Mississippi. Maybe it will grow on me but I doubt it. The short story is, I think I will sell/trade it as soon as it is safe (my wife won't kill me) and go back to the Z. Not a new one, but comparable to what I had. Damn did I blow it...big time.

I like the Z a lot as well, but if I had 4 CSC failures it would be the last Nissan for me...well maybe until the next gen Z comes =)

KramChaos
 

I needed to read that. You have pulled me off the ledge. I am upside down in the Challenger because I got too little for the Z. So, I'd be more upside down and wife shooting me. I did get a call from the new owner. Young guy. How did he get my number? It is unlisted so the dealer must have given out my number. No, I didn't call back, I was afraid he was sitting somewhere with clutch to the floor #5.

If I want a fast sportscar, 2 seater, used, "affordable," are there any alternatives?

370z automatic :stirthepot:

and you had your csc fail so many times why didn't you get Z1 Clutch Concentric Slave Cylinder (CSC) Elimination Kit ?

I did this before mine ever failed :twocents:

And while the Z1 kit hasn't been around terribly long, the ZSpeed heavy duty CSC has been around for years. Either one is worlds better than the OEM CSC.

Sux you gotta pilot a P0S Dodge down the mitey MS. If you had any mech knowledge/sense woulda just pulled the tranny and nstalled a metal CSC & removed the clutch line R3strict0R....problem solved. Spank'N 3-Ninety-2z w/Eaze...O wait, that's me w/4.36 FD, ur results may vary....;)

Wish I had known
 

When I logged on and first mentioned this problem in May, no one mentioned this kit. I was told what I had to do to make the dealer or corporate help me. They didn't. I'll post the letter week after next. I got stampeded by well meaning friends, traded the car, wished I hadn't, and now I'm stuck with a car I don't want. I posted this so anyone else in my shoes takes the time to explore all options first. I regret every day having traded the car. Everyday. I owed $30K on a $23K car (I was still upside down in the Z). My plans are to pay as much extra on the credit union loan as possible, save and scrimp to pay this loan down, and in a year or two, try to trade it on a used Z, maybe a 2014 by then. There is nothing wrong with the Challenger. It is loaded to the gills with every option possible, black, red stripes, hemi, you name it. But it is not me. I like small, fast, manual transmission cars that have only two seats. I kick myself every day. Stupid.

get out of the car, find a brick, put it on the gas, put the car in drive and move out of the way. beat it with a hammer to make sure it's 100% totaled. buy a Z. problem solved

LuLZ! I found that w/any "B1G 3" 'Merican car. Just a BIG RD tank...
My Coworkers w/the C6 Z06 let me test drive 'em! GM garbage. To bulky for my tastes!

Are you on the drugs?

Can you pass whatever it is you are smoking? :tiphat:

No, he's in the alternate reality where that sh!t is, unbelievably, still cool. I gave it up ten years ago. Course, I went mainstream so I could actually earn a living with writing while I did what I loved. One thing for sure, l33T never gets bitten with unallowable words.

Man 4 csc replacements? You must have been swimming in repair bills. Why didn't you replace the csc with aftermarket?

Question, wasnt the first CSC work under warranty, meaning doesnt the place that replaced it give out a warranty about this part failing again?

I read the whole thread about buying a 370z from back in the day. I wondered if you got one. It sucks that you had so many CSC failures and dumped the car. Can't blame you for that.

Spooler
 

Thanks. what really sucks is, I've had a sportscar of some sort since 1979. The Challenger is a great car but way big, no road feel, and not for me. I already had muscle cars. I listened to too many people who never owned a Z and don't share the same emotional connection I have with machines. I plan on buying another one after I pay this car down. I worry that the csc problem was never addressed.

And you would be right to worry. Aftermarket is your only real solution. Z1 or ZSpeed or SpecialtyZ.

... or 7AT :ugh: :wtf2:

You should have at least gotten the SRT Chally. But I know what you mean when you say it is like a huge boat. I got to drive all the SRT vehicles in the track at VIR at the SRT Track Experience and I disliked the Challenger the most. I couldn't imagine it in non-SRT trim. Must be terrible. I wouldn't call it a sports car, really. I suggest you suck it up, ride out this Challenger thing, keep the wife happy...or, do as njobe89 said and get an automatic Z. They aren't all that bad. And you'll be able to find one that some chick drove that hasn't been beat to hell at the track like mine.

Even though I'm an old coot and grew up in the '60s, I never understood the appeal of muscle cars. Big *** cars that were only good in a straight line. I always went for the British sports cars of the time. Bugeye (frogeye) Sprite was my absolute favorite and it would have fit in the trunk of most of those muscle cars. Kind of scary on the freeway surrounded by all the behemoths. Sometimes, I still get that feeling in the Z surrounded by Semis and Suvs.

i must disagree with you there. i love the old muscles cars. not because of the horsepower that they have, but just because they stand out to me so much. absolutely beautiful cars.

Yup, my first car was a Fiat 600 with an 850 spyder engine. It was ... a piece of sh!t. But I learned manual in it.

I shopped around for the next car. Almost bought a Chevelle SS that had a special 427 in it (they usually did not come with that engine) about $500 out of range in 1976, then looked at Roadrunner, 383, 4 speed pistol grip shifter, lime green. It had clutch problems. Then I drove a 1968 MGB, BRG. Sold on it. Been in love with sports cars ever since.

Guess that makes me the odd one out
 

I love the old muscle cars for their styling and power and still have a 68 Barracuda, 68 Charger (mostly rust) and a 66 convertible Valiant. But, but, once I slid behind the wheel of a sports car back in 79, I was hooked. I still like the muscle cars but there is nothing like 300+ hp, a 5 or 6 speed tranny, and racing through curves, mountain roads, and so forth. I was never much for having a back seat either. Just me and the car. The Challenger is a great car but huge, no road feed back, and like a Caddy with an attitude. Probably getting a Z in the future...near future

It's not odd, I do like the old muscle cars and the things they can do. I just like a little more nimble. All ya'all should check out Roadkill from Hot Rod. Especially episode 32.

Roadkill