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Kendrick777 03-06-2013 01:59 AM

OIL Question
 
This may sound like a noob question but id rather be safe than sorry. I changed the oil on my NISMO and the Manual says to put in 4 7/8 qt if I dont change the filter. So I think I put in 2 or 3 Oz too much (over 4 7/8). So it was closer to 5. Am I good? Or should I drain the 3 Oz. Its just a bitch to take that cover off again. haha. Responses are appreciated. Thanks.

DEpointfive0 03-06-2013 02:00 AM

Why aren't you changing the filter?
And why don't you just use the dipstick?

DEpointfive0 03-06-2013 02:03 AM

Oh, and why are you taking that cover off???

Nissan takes off the back 4-6 or whatever and just folds the plastic out of the way :tup:

Wonka2581 03-06-2013 02:05 AM

Dude rule of thumb every time you change the oil make sure you change the filter!! Now what oil did you put in it? And agree why did you take the cover off??

Kendrick777 03-06-2013 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2198594)
Why aren't you changing the filter?
And why don't you just use the dipstick?

It only has 1,000 miles on it. I only changed the oil cuz i already had the oil cuz i was about to change the oil on my 2011 Z before I traded it in for the 13 NISMO. So i Just changed it cuz I didnt have the receipt for the oil and the filter is a bitch to get off, its really on there tight. my filter remover keeps slipping. The dipstick says a little bit above full. But I put in less than 5qt. Im just wondering if the 2 or 3oz extra is gonna be a problem or not.

Kendrick777 03-06-2013 02:08 AM

Oh and im In the military and leaving in a month. And I didnt want to just waste the oil I bought and didnt want to ship it seems like too much of a hassle so i put it in my car.

DEpointfive0 03-06-2013 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Kendrick777 (Post 2198600)
It only has 1,000 miles on it. I only changed the oil cuz i already had the oil cuz i was about to change the oil on my 2011 Z before I traded it in for the 13 NISMO. So i Just changed it cuz I didnt have the receipt for the oil and the filter is a bitch to get off, its really on there tight. my filter remover keeps slipping. The dipstick says a little bit above full. But I put in less than 5qt. Im just wondering if the 2 or 3oz extra is gonna be a problem or not.

Not really, I wouldn't worry.

During the break in process your car will probably burn more oil anyways...


But I'm sorry, the filter change, especially on SUCH a new car is worth 10 times more than the oil that's in there

DEpointfive0 03-06-2013 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Kendrick777 (Post 2198603)
Oh and im In the military and leaving in a month. And I didnt want to just waste the oil I bought and didnt want to ship it seems like too much of a hassle so i put it in my car.

You're taking your car with you to where? Lol


Thanks for your service!!!

Kendrick777 03-06-2013 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2198605)
You're taking your car with you to where? Lol


Thanks for your service!!!

Oh OK. I was just worried that the 3 oz would throw it off and mess something up. Yeah I have a new filter that I was gonna put into my 2011 Z before I traded it. But I just cant get this OEM oil filter off this 13 NISMO lol. The equipment I used for my 11 Z keeps slipping off of it.:shakes head: So I just drained the Oil and put the new Royal Purple oil I had in there.

Im going to San Diego.

You're welcome. :tiphat:

Wonka2581 03-06-2013 02:20 AM

You need to invest in a oil filter wrench they are 7.99 at any auto parts store and I think Walmart sells them as we'll, another thing not changing your oil filter when you change your oil is like.... Not wiping you A** after you drop a Duce, just saying. If the oil is not half way up the dip stick you should be good the car will burn it off. And thanks for serving!

DEpointfive0 03-06-2013 02:24 AM

Next time use a screwdriver to stab the filter! Lol

Where are you moving FROM? (And I assume you're going to Camp Pendleton)
Have fun there, enjoy the boob shaped nuclear reactors! (You'll see, LOL)

Kendrick777 03-06-2013 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Wonka2581 (Post 2198620)
You need to invest in a oil filter wrench they are 7.99 at any auto parts store and I think Walmart sells them as we'll, another thing not changing your oil filter when you change your oil is like.... Not wiping you A** after you drop a Duce, just saying. If the oil is not half way up the dip stick you should be good the car will burn it off. And thanks for serving!

So Its still bad even though the Car and Filter only have 1,000 miles on it?

And as far as the filter equipment. I have the little plastic cup one that is fit for this filter size. It just wont grip ive tried putting stuff into the cup to create more grip it just wont. And also I have the wrench type filter remover but its the one with the dumb rubber strap that you put on there and torque. I dented the filter on my 2011 before. But is there a certain type you guys use? Cuz I noticed the filter is in the same place as a regular Z but it has more **** around it.

And You are very welcome sir!:tiphat:

Kendrick777 03-06-2013 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2198622)
Next time use a screwdriver to stab the filter! Lol

Where are you moving FROM? (And I assume you're going to Camp Pendleton)
Have fun there, enjoy the boob shaped nuclear reactors! (You'll see, LOL)

LOL

No Im from San Diego. Im getting out of the Navy. Im in Guam right now.

DEpointfive0 03-06-2013 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Kendrick777 (Post 2198624)
So Its still bad even though the Car and Filter only have 1,000 miles on it?

And as far as the filter equipment. I have the little plastic cup one that is fit for this filter size. It just wont grip ive tried putting stuff into the cup to create more grip it just wont. And also I have the wrench type filter remover but its the one with the dumb rubber strap that you put on there and torque. I dented the filter on my 2011 before. But is there a certain type you guys use? Cuz I noticed the filter is in the same place as a regular Z but it has more **** around it.

And You are very welcome sir!:tiphat:

The one you have blows, I HAD one of those for my last car

I use the one from harbor freight ($5) that connects to a 3/8" drive socket wrench.
It sometimes doesn't catch, but if it doesn't, you'll just have to hold the 3 teeth a bit...

DEpointfive0 03-06-2013 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Kendrick777 (Post 2198627)
LOL

No Im from San Diego. Im getting out of the Navy. Im in Guam right now.

And the car is in Guam? LOL

Wonka2581 03-06-2013 02:32 AM

They sell a oil filter wrench with a chain on it that's the best one to get, it looks like a bicycle chain. And yes just think of all of those little metal shavings that are stuck in the oil filter from the brake in of the motor.

Kendrick777 03-06-2013 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2198632)
And the car is in Guam? LOL

Yup. I cant wait to get her on a freeway. I appreciate your input though. So I should be good with the 3 oz extra right? Also what mileage do you think I should change the filter and oil? 3,000? Since I didnt change the filter?

Wonka2581 03-06-2013 02:34 AM

If your in Guam go have a beer with Simota1 lol he's a member on here

DEpointfive0 03-06-2013 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Kendrick777 (Post 2198636)
Yup. I cant wait to get her on a freeway. I appreciate your input though. So I should be good with the 3 oz extra right? Also what mileage do you think I should change the filter and oil? 3,000? Since I didnt change the filter?

Don't worry about the extra.
When you come stateside, or if you have the time or tools or whatever, you can remove just the filter and lose only like .5 quarts, then keep running on the oil you just put in


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Originally Posted by Wonka2581 (Post 2198637)
If your in Guam go have a beer with Simota1 lol he's a member on here

Lol, Guam has a population of like 53, I'm sure he has

Kendrick777 03-06-2013 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Wonka2581 (Post 2198637)
If your in Guam go have a beer with Simota1 lol he's a member on here

Yeah I hear a lot about him. Theres way more Z's driving around Guam than I thought there would be before I came here.

Kendrick777 03-06-2013 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2198638)
Don't worry about the extra.
When you come stateside, or if you have the time or tools or whatever, you can remove just the filter and lose only like .5 quarts, then keep running on the oil you just put in




Lol, Guam has a population of like 53, I'm sure he has

LMAO. Believe it or not dude Guam actually has a bunch of people and the traffic gets pretty bad.:eekdance:

DEpointfive0 03-06-2013 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Kendrick777 (Post 2198639)
Yeah I hear a lot about him. Theres way more Z's driving around Guam than I thought there would be before I came here.

You haven't met him???
Guam is TINY!!!!!!


And yeah, there are a lot of forum members in Guam, or more than expected

Kendrick777 03-06-2013 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2198642)
You haven't met him???
Guam is TINY!!!!!!


And yeah, there are a lot of forum members in Guam, or more than expected

No I havent met him. He drives the Red Amuse right?

DEpointfive0 03-06-2013 02:44 AM

And do 370Zs in Guam come with headlight washers/rear wiper/fog light?

asdfsammich 03-06-2013 02:44 AM

Yep. That guys SR is the sickest on the site I think.


Phone Tapatalk *nix ...

DEpointfive0 03-06-2013 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Kendrick777 (Post 2198643)
No I havent met him. He drives the Red Amuse right?

Yessir

Kendrick777 03-06-2013 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2198646)
Yessir

Nope. As far as I know everything is US spec here too. So nothing different. I dont think Ive seen his Amuse around. Just heard bout it. But Ive seen another solid red that has the 2 GTR hood scoops or whatever it is. And various other stuff

SouthArk370Z 03-06-2013 06:56 AM

Go by the dipstick. Every engine holds a slightly different amount of oil. What you see in the manuals is a close estimate. I'll hold back on the last 1/2 quart when refilling and top off as the dipstick dictates.

If you're just a little bit over (~1/8" or less), it shouldn't be a big deal. If you can, I'd drain down to the full mark, but don't jump through hoops to do it.

As for whether or not you should have changed the filter: I would have, if for no other reason that force of habit, but, with only 1000 miles on it, you should be OK. The oil gets dirtier during the break-in period, but modern engines aren't as bad about it as older engines. Once again I would go ahead and put a new filter on (at this point, you'll end up having to change the oil again), but you should be alright if you do you next oil/filter change a little early.

All that said, why risk it? Do another oil change, change the filter, and refill to the proper level.

Volk Z 03-06-2013 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kendrick777 (Post 2198624)
So Its still bad even though the Car and Filter only have 1,000 miles on it?

And as far as the filter equipment. I have the little plastic cup one that is fit for this filter size. It just wont grip ive tried putting stuff into the cup to create more grip it just wont. And also I have the wrench type filter remover but its the one with the dumb rubber strap that you put on there and torque. I dented the filter on my 2011 before. But is there a certain type you guys use? Cuz I noticed the filter is in the same place as a regular Z but it has more **** around it.

And You are very welcome sir!:tiphat:

Go to Home Depot and get some strap wrenches... It is a rubber band you can wrap around the filter and it will come off easily OR go to DIcks Sporting goods and grab a pair of Wide receiver Football gloves SUPER STICKY and will do the trick as well.

Also for a new filter go with a K&N it has a hex head so you can take it off super easily with a Socket wrench.

As everyone said change your filter, you probably wont have an easy time taking off the filter and not losing a ton of oil... If i were you i would re-do the whole job and take the filter and drain plug off first. Then put the new filter and plug back in and THEN fill up.

Nissan calls for 5 1/8 quarts as well for your first oil change FYI so if you say you put in 5 quarts your FINE...

03g35coupe6mt 03-06-2013 10:46 AM

FIrst filter change is always fun Nissan a has huge Gorilla tighten that bitch on there :ugh2:

fuct 03-06-2013 03:37 PM

just for reference, when i change my oil i let everything drain out on a level surface for a good 30 min while i take a break. then i just add an entire 5 qt jug of mobil1. drive the car a day then check the oil on the stick and its usually right smack dab in the middle. this is wrong its about 70% full on the dip stick. i miss typed yesterday :P

side note... i pour in another 1/2 to 1 full quart at about 2500 miles and ride that till 4k then i change.

DEpointfive0 03-06-2013 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuct (Post 2199639)
just for reference, when i change my oil i let everything drain out on a level surface for a good 30 min while i take a break. then i just add an entire 5 qt jug of mobil1. drive the car a day then check the oil on the stick and its usually right smack dab in the middle.

side note... i pour in another 1/2 to 1 full quart at about 2500 miles and ride that till 4k then i change.

5 quarts should take you higher

And if you're burning up to a quart at 2500 miles... You need to get that checked out

fuct 03-07-2013 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2199896)
5 quarts should take you higher

And if you're burning up to a quart at 2500 miles... You need to get that checked out

(i knew id get a response, haha)

maybe your not draining as much as i am..... i let that puppy sit level, at an angle and flat on the ground. im not saying i get it ALL out but d@mn near all of it.

that being said after i fill with 5qts. i get the oil level to about 70% full on the dip stick. not sure why i wrote half. its higher than that..... my bad:confused:

anyways, im also not burning all that much. when i say i pour in half a bottle to a bottle its just to top it back off close to the H level on the stick.

trust me im watching how much im burning....:icon14:

nismo09 03-30-2013 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2199896)
5 quarts should take you higher

And if you're burning up to a quart at 2500 miles... You need to get that checked out

:iagree:


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