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RN SHARK 06-19-2013 05:40 PM

Sean told me late August. Hope they are for real this time!

BGTV8 06-19-2013 07:12 PM

I emailed, but no response yet ...

nismo09 06-21-2013 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by takjak2 (Post 2370508)
I sent them an e-mail and got a reply back almost immediately.

"Sales@SPLParts

5:10 PM (2 minutes ago)

to me
Hi takjak2, the design is finalized, we just have to wait for the machine shop to complete them. Looking at 2-3 months ETA.

Thanks,
Sean Farrah"


2-3 months, just like 2-3 years ago

No way....... 2 to 3 months???? I will call Sean this weekend and see what the deal is. I know folks all over Austin and Houston have been having issues with machine shops making products (they seem very lazy in my opinion) but wow.......... that is a long time. I will get back to you with what I know. :tiphat:

nismo09 06-21-2013 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 2370578)
Just in time for Christmas. My new winter project. Arms and bushings in the front.

All I know is that they can't pry these bad boys off my car!!!!!!:shakes head: I have waited way way way way too long for them. :tiphat: What is the old saying in lawyer terms - possesion is 9 10th's of the law????:stirthepot:

nismo09 06-21-2013 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RN SHRRK (Post 2370659)
Sean told me late August. Hope they are for real this time!

All I can say is that they have to be for real. There is nothing else I can test for them. They perform perfectly and they give anyone as much "leeway" with camber and caster as they can want. But then again I am not the manufacturer I am just the tester. :driving:

1cleanZ 06-27-2013 04:35 PM

Do we have an official pricetag yet?

Rusty 06-27-2013 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1cleanZ (Post 2382616)
Do we have an official pricetag yet?

No, release date.

nismo09 07-07-2013 09:07 PM

I have no updates at this time (like I said earlier I think they are ready for prime time but that is up to Sean at SPL) but I can tell you I am taking the Proto III's to TWS again this weekend for round 2 of testing if you will - hey they are still on my car!!!!!!! ;- and I will be driving the **** out of them. ;-).

cv129 07-07-2013 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nismo09 (Post 2395155)
I have no updates at this time (like I said earlier I think they are ready for prime time but that is up to Sean at SPL) but I can tell you I am taking the Proto III's to TWS again this weekend for round 2 of testing if you will - hey they are still on my car!!!!!!! ;- and I will be driving the **** out of them. ;-).

Nismo09, thanks for the update. May I ask, what kind of assurance is Sean waiting for in order to move it into production?

Does he want to make sure the alignment stays after being pushed hard? To make sure no squeaking?

I hope the radio silence is because Sean wants to keep things under wrap until he does the QC on the first batch, not because there are issues regarding production or design.

Knock on wood.

nismo09 07-25-2013 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 2395182)
Nismo09, thanks for the update. May I ask, what kind of assurance is Sean waiting for in order to move it into production?

Does he want to make sure the alignment stays after being pushed hard? To make sure no squeaking?

I hope the radio silence is because Sean wants to keep things under wrap until he does the QC on the first batch, not because there are issues regarding production or design.

Knock on wood.

CV129,

As far as I understand it, Sean is moving forward with production. It is just a matter of when the machine shops he uses can put out the products for the arms so he can sell them. In fact, I have now run the Proto III's again at TWS (CCW this time) and they performed flawlessly. Now that the car is pretty much neutral (with camber/caster/toe setup), you do have to be careful of snap-over-steer as you get faster but they worked as advertised. Under-steer is a thing of the past for sure. :happydance:

I have had no issues with alignment - I have not had any issues with anything changing once I have tracked the arms - unless running over curbs sideways (snap over-steer will happen) is an issue. Oops!!!!!! :bowrofl:

Sorry I have not been back to the forums sooner. I have a lot going on these days - which is a good thing. I am headed back to TWS next weekend for more testing and am very excited about it. :ughdance:

Just keep hammering Sean. Hell, I had to do that for 3+ years just to get to this point. :tiphat:

Have a good one.

nismo09 07-25-2013 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 2382843)
No, release date.

I have no clue what the pricing will be. I am just the tester!!!!!!! :tiphat:

Just keep hammering on Sean - the more folks ding him the more he knows that the market is ready to buy!!!!!! :stirthepot:

nismo09 07-26-2013 09:54 PM

I shall try this one again.

Now that the car is pretty much neutral, you have to get ready for the snap over-steer that will now happen with this setup. I have been driving for 3+ years with a total under-steer pig so it is a learning experience. Here is an example of my learning curve at 95mph!!!! lol I was running my fasted laps ever (and not really trying) when the car just came around. I hate it when that happens!!!!!! lol

Snap Over Steer with the Nismo Turn 2 TWS - YouTube

BGTV8 07-27-2013 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nismo09 (Post 2420999)
I shall try this one again.

Now that the car is pretty much neutral, you have to get ready for the snap over-steer that will now happen with this setup. I have been driving for 3+ years with a total under-steer pig so it is a learning experience. Here is an example of my learning curve at 95mph!!!! lol I was running my fasted laps ever (and not really trying) when the car just came around. I hate it when that happens!!!!!! lol

Snap Over Steer with the Nismo Turn 2 TWS - YouTube

Now that it what I call a "sh1t and giggle" moment ("sh1t" as it happens and then a giggle when you realise you didn;t hit anything).

I've had confirmation from SPL that the wait is now 6-7 weeks, and I have my order confirmed.

cv129 07-27-2013 07:10 PM

The wait is always 6-7 weeks. However, looks promising this time

nismo09 07-27-2013 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BGTV8 (Post 2421147)
Now that it what I call a "sh1t and giggle" moment ("sh1t" as it happens and then a giggle when you realise you didn;t hit anything).

I've had confirmation from SPL that the wait is now 6-7 weeks, and I have my order confirmed.

Sorry bro but the **** part did happen but the giggle part didn't happen unfortunately. The front part of the exit curbing on turn 2 at TWS (on the right edge of the track) has MAJOR HUGH "gator" curbing going on. I put 3 big "dents" (as the tire rotated around) into my front right PF01 rim on that spin. It was close to blowing the tire to hell. I got lucky. I know video never shows what exactly we go through on the track. :shakes head:

:driving: But we do keep drivng!!!!!! :happydance:

BGTV8 07-28-2013 04:49 PM

Bummer .... I know the feeling as I kissed the wall last Saturday week in my race car - 520hp in a 1000kg car in torrential rain, second gear exiting T4 at Sandown, goosed the throttle in second gear and around she went.

Corner marshall reckons I was tapped but no witness mark in the bodywork, so I'm putting it down to a temporary lack of talent on my part - had to have been the worst driving conditions in many, many years, and even though I had the super-dooper Dunlop "monsoon" wet tyres on, 18% throttle at slow speed was enough to turn me around.

Panel bill was modest which was the only saving grace.

scionide 07-31-2013 02:28 AM

*in for updates*

nismo09 08-22-2013 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BGTV8 (Post 2421147)
Now that it what I call a "sh1t and giggle" moment ("sh1t" as it happens and then a giggle when you realise you didn;t hit anything).

I've had confirmation from SPL that the wait is now 6-7 weeks, and I have my order confirmed.

Well BGTV8 - you got me to thinking (never a good thing lol), so I went out and bought some Eibach sway bars to go with the new camber arms and I just finished putting them on the Nismo. We shall see if this can keep the snap oversteer more in control!!!!!:driving: I have to think yes since the OEM bars were for the OEM arms. I will put them on full "lock down" and see what happens at 100+ mph. :tiphat: I will adjust if needed. TWS is a very flowing track so "full lockdown" might be too much compared to a slower and more technical track.

I am driving at TWS this weekend so I shall see how they perform and how they work with the SPL equipment. :eekdance:

Also, for all those who care about the SPL camber arms - Sean is going to be at the track as well driving this weekend so I will definitely get a handle on where he is at on getting those bad boys out to you folks. :tup:

Should be an exciting (and very HOT) weekend. :ughdance:

Cheers.

ChrisSlicks 08-22-2013 07:33 PM

You need a bigger front bar, but with all the new found traction up front you probably need a smaller rear bar. Go full stiff on the front and full soft on the rear bar and see how that works.

nismo09 08-22-2013 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 2457430)
You need a bigger front bar, but with all the new found traction up front you probably need a smaller rear bar. Go full stiff on the front and full soft on the rear bar and see how that works.

I hear you ChrisSlicks and I have thought a lot about this. I only have 2 settings on the front bars hence I will definitely go "full stiff" up front. As for the rears, I want to start out "full stiff" on such a fast and flowing track as TWS just to see how the Nismo handles.

I figure I can start at the most extreme settings and depending on how the front and rear work together, I can always "go down" on the rear settings from there. Understand, I am also including the SPL camber arms into this equation, the settings being -3.0 camber, 7.1 caster and 0.00 toe in the front and -2.0 camber and 0.06 toe in the rear.

I want to start from the "most extreme" settings and work backwards as/if needed on the sway bars. I totally want to keep the alignment setup I have (front & rear) which is due to previous HPD testing in other cars and the Nismo too. I know what I want when it comes to turning into a corner and the balance I want the car to be in.

I will let you know what I find out after 2 days of "hauling ***"!!!!!!, sweating my ba*&^ off and just basically having a great time. ;-)

Cheers

:tiphat:

ChrisSlicks 08-23-2013 06:44 AM

Just be aware that the ratio on the aftermarket bars is even more rear bias. I run similar camber settings (doran) and tire compounds and the high speed sweepers is where you really need the rear settled.

Have fun!


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