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GreyWizard 11-26-2012 08:52 PM

Turbocharging the NISMO
 
I'm interested in Turbo or Supercharging my NISMO. Anybody know who's got the best one for the beast?

gomer_110 11-26-2012 08:57 PM

Based on your statement I'd say you probably need to figure some things out first such as, your goals for the build (would most likely determine SC or TT), budget, etc.

Keep in mind the kit alone is just the beginning of the costs. You also have additional cooling requirements, upgraded drivetrain (clutch, etc.), gauges to monitor everything.

What ever your decision good luck.

GaleForce 11-26-2012 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by gomer_110 (Post 2034419)
Based on your statement I'd say you probably need to figure some things out first such as, your goals for the build (would most likely determine SC or TT), budget, etc.

Keep in mind the kit alone is just the beginning of the costs. You also have additional cooling requirements, upgraded drivetrain (clutch, etc.), gauges to monitor everything.

What ever your decision good luck.

:iagree:

Time to do some reading. Look up some "journals" or "WIP" or "build" threads, you'll get a good idea which way you want to go after reading some of them.

forza370z 11-26-2012 09:36 PM

I agree with the above. You have to figure out or tell us what you intend to do. For street or drag strip or track. Then you can figure out whether go with sc or single turbo or twin turbo. But general speaking, GTM kit is one of the best kit out there. Do some searches and readings then you know what specific questions to ask.

red6spd 11-26-2012 09:48 PM

I'm interested as well... Just cant afford the 10-20k+ its going to cost for install and supporting mods.

GreyWizard 11-26-2012 10:41 PM

Valid Advice
 
Thanks guys... Great advice. I've got a few vendors to select from, so a googlin' I go!

Naenyn 11-26-2012 11:20 PM

The STILLEN 500 HP Supercharged Nissan 370Z - TUNED - YouTube

That video still makes me drool.

Cmike2780 11-26-2012 11:30 PM

I say go twin turbo for street use. Just do it the right way if you plan to push the car a lot. As with any forced induction, you trade reliability and longevity for that power. If you're building a track car, there are far more effective uses for 10 grand without having to go forced induction. ....and 10 grand is the low side for the kit plus install cost. Be prepared to set aside at least $15k-$20k total to account for any unforeseen expenses.

RedNismoZ 11-26-2012 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 2034608)
I say go twin turbo for street use. Just do it the right way if you plan to push the car a lot. As with any forced induction, you trade reliability and longevity for that power. If you're building a track car, there are far more effective uses for 10 grand without having to go forced induction. ....and 10 grand is the low side for the kit plus install cost. Be prepared to set aside at least $15k-$20k total to account for any unforeseen expenses.

Yep, at Sumo's it took about 15k with everything going right. You can do majority of the install to save some money, if anything.

forza370z 11-27-2012 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 2034608)
I say go twin turbo for street use. Just do it the right way if you plan to push the car a lot. As with any forced induction, you trade reliability and longevity for that power. If you're building a track car, there are far more effective uses for 10 grand without having to go forced induction. ....and 10 grand is the low side for the kit plus install cost. Be prepared to set aside at least $15k-$20k total to account for any unforeseen expenses.

I agree. 15k-20k is about right. And if anything greater than 500 whp, it could be tricky coz you'd be spending more money rebuild a stroke motor. 500 whp is the safe limit for the stock motor.

Kingbaby 11-27-2012 04:26 AM

Boosted Performance

GreyWizard 11-27-2012 07:20 PM

Twin Turbo's
 
To all who have asked:

1) The car is for street, and daily driving.
2) Yes. I want to do it right.
3) Have no intention of tracking the beast

So - that said, I'm starting my research in to how much HP I want. Unfortunately, the folks at Hennessy won't even give me any tips. So, they're out of the running. Period. There are a few reputable speed shops in the Austin area and that's my next stop.

I'll be happy with 540-ish HP to the rear wheels. My intention is also to put 305's on the rear in order to handle the additional thrust.

Now the research starts in earnest.

AyandehRacing 11-30-2012 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GreyWizard (Post 2035873)
To all who have asked:

1) The car is for street, and daily driving.
2) Yes. I want to do it right.
3) Have no intention of tracking the beast

So - that said, I'm starting my research in to how much HP I want. Unfortunately, the folks at Hennessy won't even give me any tips. So, they're out of the running. Period. There are a few reputable speed shops in the Austin area and that's my next stop.

I'll be happy with 540-ish HP to the rear wheels. My intention is also to put 305's on the rear in order to handle the additional thrust.

Now the research starts in earnest.

You're gonna need more than 305's to handle the additional "thrust".
Putting down that power effectively will most likely require
1)stronger clutch & flywheel upgrade
2)more robust LSD
3)the aforementioned cooling systems

That's several grand alone but is very useful in actually getting the power to the ground, even on a stock block.

SS_Firehawk 11-30-2012 03:13 PM

with 540whp, you will be at the edge of reliability. Either drop your goals or spend twice as much for peace of mind and potential to reach 600+whp. COOLING COOLING COOLING as stated in the previous post. Get the supporting mods first so your not breaking things.

Add a radiator, at minimum, a 34 row oil cooler and tuning software to the list above. You will definitely need a better exhaust, so good luck...

Baer383 12-25-2012 02:42 PM

I have a stage 1.5 SC GTM and make 516 rwhp 383 rwtq and it is reliable all day long , Sam at GTM told me 550 at the wheels is about the limit(since the limit varies car to car)a good number to shoot for is 500 rwhp this way you can decide which is best for you either a SC or TT.

G37sHKS 12-25-2012 04:31 PM

Save your self from headache and go with Boosted performance..

Baer383 12-25-2012 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by G37sHKS (Post 2076708)
Save your self from headache and go with Boosted performance..

What headaches? The only headache you will get is from a Stillen ,I have been dealing with Sam @ GTM and it has been a pleasure to deal with,plus I haven't seen any SC making the HP and TQ I'm making.

roplusbee 12-25-2012 07:45 PM

Wait................you are in TX? Go talk to Mike and Omar @ UPREV. They get all sorts of kits and cars through thier shop. If you need to check thier rep...............just look at the tuning posibilities for the Z/G and that should tell you something.

faya 01-28-2013 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by roplusbee (Post 2076859)
Wait................you are in TX? Go talk to Mike and Omar @ UPREV. They get all sorts of kits and cars through thier shop. If you need to check thier rep...............just look at the tuning posibilities for the Z/G and that should tell you something.

where are they from in texas? do they do NA performance upgrade? thanks!

Jordan11b 03-02-2013 10:45 AM

They are in Austin,TX and do all kinds of tuning, and uprgrades

MJB 03-02-2013 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by faya (Post 2136006)
where are they from in texas? do they do NA performance upgrade? thanks!

Without a doubt, their tuning abilities is the best in the business....... But with anything else not so sure. I haven't started a thread about my experience with them, I'll just leave it at that. PM me if you would like details.

faya 03-02-2013 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan11b (Post 2192864)
They are in Austin,TX and do all kinds of tuning, and uprgrades

what specific upgrade do they do?

MJB 03-02-2013 03:21 PM

They do just about anything you could think of, from something as simple as an oil change to something as complex as rebuilding an engine. I had them install my headers and clutch/flywheel and then a tune.

LafitteZ 03-03-2013 01:00 PM

Ill give you a list of basic mods needed.....
Full kit of choice... Since your novice just get the kits already done no tuner kit.
Clutch and Fly... at least 450 to 500 torque threshold
Oil Cooler... I recommend 34 row from z1.
Uprev... If the kit doesnt come with it.
Custom tuning... No flash crap
Now to specifics as regards to Either supercharger or turbo (NOT NEEDED BE RECOMEND)
Boost controller is VERYYYYYY NICEEEEE... Turbo
Exaust... Turbo or supercharger
Down Pipes... Turbo Only if your smog rules arent strict
Test Pipes... Supercharger Only if your smog rules arent strict
Nice set of headers... Supercharger
Radiator... supercharger or turbo I recommend this too but not needed
MOST OF ALL GO TO A REPUTABLE INSTALLER!!!!! PREFERABLY SOMEONE WHOS DONE A FEW 370zs OR SOMEONE WITH EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE WITH ZS.

Hotrodz 03-04-2013 09:13 PM

I have done a little researching and headers are not necessary for a SC or TT as the gains from the SC & TT will exceed any gains provided by the headers. It's the law of diminishing returns, just as with staying NA. Each exhaust mod you add, the gains will become less than if you were adding that mod alone.

Just saying if you are serious about going FI use that money for your oil cooler or clutch/flywheel and CSC.

faya 03-05-2013 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 2196738)
I have done a little researching and headers are not necessary for a SC or TT as the gains from the SC & TT will exceed any gains provided by the headers. It's the law of diminishing returns, just as with staying NA. Each exhaust mod you add, the gains will become less than if you were adding that mod alone.

Just saying if you are serious about going FI use that money for your oil cooler or clutch/flywheel and CSC.

what is CSC? i am sorry just learning.. thanks!

dweedlebug 03-05-2013 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by faya (Post 2196969)
what is CSC? i am sorry just learning.. thanks!

Clutch Slave Cylinder

LafitteZ 03-05-2013 09:18 AM

CSC Is not needed but I forgot to put that. I recommend that too. As for headers it will make the system become more efficient. Usually after installing headers youll need a pulley because it will drop a few psi. With boost applications the faster you can get the air in then get it out the better. Most twin turbos will have a manifolds not headers. Theres a couple out there that use headers but the kits for the 370z mostly are manifolds. See on Na cars sometimes the headers arent good because a little bit of back pressure will yield a little more torque. All these mods change the dynamics in so many ways. Headers will be better for a supercharger setup then the oems.


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