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zman1910 06-18-2009 06:03 PM

Disappointing Nismo 370Z Specs?
 
Enjoy! Seems to go along with Edmunds for the most part

2009 Nissan NISMO 370Z - Short Take Road Test/Japanese Performance/High Performance/Hot Lists/Reviews/Car and Driver - Car And Driver

Cjanik 06-18-2009 06:41 PM

the report made it sound disappointing, but i LOVE the NISMO body kit better than the stock kit.

what the report seems to not have done was drive it around a track (sounds like it only went on a dragstrip), which is where it should shine vs. the stock 370z.

Roo 06-18-2009 07:34 PM

I was looking for more, but then again I thought the Sport Package was a joke. I understand the value for a manual but with an auto the price should have been cut in half. $3,000 for a spoiler and brakes? I can add the spoiler for under $500 and the brakes for around $1,200.

Modshack 06-18-2009 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Roo (Post 94283)
I was looking for more, but then again I thought the Sport Package was a joke. I understand the value for a manual but with an auto the price should have been cut in half. $3,000 for a spoiler and brakes? I can add the spoiler for under $500 and the brakes for around $1,200.

I think you missed a few things...High end, larger Rays forged wheels with better tires, Limited slip, syncro-rev. Most peole think the sport package is a good value..

azn370z 06-18-2009 07:56 PM

the sports package adds forged 19 wheels, bbk, lsd, and the spoilers. I think 3k is a good deal.

Roo 06-18-2009 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 94294)
I think you missed a few things...High end, larger Rays forged wheels with better tires, Limited slip, syncro-rev. Most peole think the sport package is a good value..


Syncro-rev is only for manual, not autos. Hence why I said for Autos it should have been less. So yes I forgot limited slip, I still don't se $3,000 for an auto.

Modshack 06-18-2009 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Roo (Post 94301)
Syncro-rev is only for manual, not autos. Hence why I said for Autos it should have been less. So yes I forgot limited slip, I still don't se $3,000 for an auto.

How much do you think Syncro rev adds? A few sensors and a little programming. Not that much money. You have it too, you just paid $1300 for it!

XenChi 06-18-2009 08:25 PM

Truthfully a set of 19 inch Rays Volks will take almost all of that $3,000 price increase.

Roo 06-18-2009 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 94302)
How much do you think Syncro rev adds? A few sensors and a little programming. Not that much money. You have it too, you just paid $1300 for it!

Exactly, so why should the package be the same as manuals? :)

theDreamer 06-18-2009 08:44 PM

Actually, automatic has SRM if you purchase with the sport package.

For the price I think the sport package is well worth it. The Nismo model has some great additions also, but I think Nissan might have fallen a little short. Yes they left off the oil cooler, but I think an upgraded LSD would have been better for the price you pay.
Sport package:
~SRM - price unknown (probably minimal)
~BBK - 2,000+
~19" Ray wheels - Price I cannot estimate
~Better tires
~LSD
~Rear/Front spoilers - Nissan charges 600USD

sensi09 06-18-2009 08:50 PM

I think we may be expecting a bit much from the Nismo.

I wouldn't expect the updated suspension to be reflected in skidpad numbers. C&D did get a staggering .99g on the skidpad, but the suspension changes will be more directly effect turn-in, transient response and body control. With that said, I would a expect a slight some improvement in slalom numbers.

Tires will have a large effect, but advan sports are very much on par with RE050As IMO.

Brakes are the same and tire size does not increase much, so I wouldn't expect changes here. Not sure how downforce would effect braking in this scenario.

Should the car be much faster? I think it should be a bit faster even if the car is a little green. If numbers don't improve after being fully broken in, we could conclude that the nismo exhaust and tune just don't make much more power, or perhaps the power is all made up top with little improvement in the overall power curve.

I thought that an increase in weight and added drag would effect straight line numbers. However others have said the cars weigh roughly the same. All in all, I'd expect the improvements on the Nismo to be felt at speed and on the track.

nicknick 06-19-2009 12:04 AM

The specs are ok, just remove that hideous bodykit.

SiXK 06-19-2009 07:32 AM

IMO the sport package was a great deal.

This is interesting from the article. says Nissan recommends an oil cooler and even has the price. The language is interesting too, "If you are planning on tracking a NISMO or any other 370Z"

they mention tracking the car, but say the oil cooler should be dealer installed. kind of dances around the warranty issue. why dealer installed if not warrantied?

"If you are planning on tracking a NISMO or any other 370Z, Nissan recommends a dealer-installed oil cooler because if the oil temperature hits 280 degrees F, the computer limits revs to 5900. They’re further restricted to 4400 rpm if the temperature hits 290 degrees. Our test car was fitted with the cooler, which costs $780 on top of the $39,850 base price. There are no options, save some floor mats and other cosmetic add-ons. So the NISMO’s price seems expensive compared with a stock Z, but if you spend all (or even most) your time lapping tracks, it’s money well spent. "

kannibul 06-19-2009 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Roo (Post 94301)
Syncro-rev is only for manual, not autos. Hence why I said for Autos it should have been less. So yes I forgot limited slip, I still don't se $3,000 for an auto.

Actually, the syncro works on the automatic as well...when you are using the auto-stick.

Not sure if it does with the paddle shifters with it still in "D"...

But I can absolutely verify that it blips the throttle when downshifting. It screws with my braking if I'm on the brakes and downshift - the blip is quick and takes a bit of braking away, then the engine braking kicks in as well as the brakes...and you slow down at a much faster rate than you'd expect.

The result makes one look a bit amatuer ;)

But, if you need to accellerate, and mash the throttle, the automatic is a bit slow to figure out what you're up to, and the car kind of winds itself up and leaps (think of a cat about to pounce...) - if you bump the shifter down a gear (or two :yum: or three :icon14:) just before you lay down the hammer, it launches for a seriously huge grin...

I've managed to break the rear end loose doing this, bumping it from 4th to 3rd where the RPM's end up at about 4-5K, and gassin' it...sure enough, little warning light told me so - lol!

Jason 06-19-2009 08:31 PM

^i enjoyed reading your post. i know EXACTLY what you're talking about. was having some fun downshifting and gassing it today. lol. been babying it for a while (break-in)

Nismo_370 10-12-2009 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by zman1910 (Post 94225)

The page in your url no longer exists... but i think they revised their post:

2009 Nissan NISMO 370Z - Second Short Take - Auto Reviews - Car and Driver

chief_Roka 10-13-2009 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roo (Post 94283)
I was looking for more, but then again I thought the Sport Package was a joke. I understand the value for a manual but with an auto the price should have been cut in half. $3,000 for a spoiler and brakes? I can add the spoiler for under $500 and the brakes for around $1,200.

Brakes for 1200? Where? From who? I gotta get this vendor.
Akebono and brembo run the same quality. Brembo goes for 2799 on the 14inch front gt brakes! The whole set is 4200. With the right connections. It'll cost u 3k.
Even the cheaper stop tech brakes run around 2500 for 14inch brake kit.
The Rays engineering rim and tire package is official. At worst its worth 1500 by comparable aftermarket quality. And cuz I know the brake lines rotors and pads aren't as high quality as an aftermarket brake system. Ill say 2000 on the brakes. That's 3500 right there. Now add spoiler chin spoiler and SRM. To be nice ill say 500 bucks. Though I believe the SRM technology is cutting edge and breakthrough and is probably worth 900 by itself. I will package it and say 500 bucks. U still save a grand. But in reality this sport package would be worth near 6k if u did it yourself with comparable tech. 60-0 in 103ft for $1200. Lol
I musta been gettin ripped off all these years.

molamann 10-13-2009 01:47 AM

^
Don't forget the VLSD.

Tjai370Z 09-10-2010 06:03 PM

the sport package tires alone are like 1200+ a set on tirerack.com the rest 1800 goes to the vlsd, awesome brakes, synchrorev match and the 2 spoilers. i dont see how you can get all the aftermarket stuff of these and cost around the same and perform that good or better

280z/300zx 09-10-2010 07:36 PM

Wow, your first post is reviving a message that is almost one year old. Congrats:shakes head:

Red__Zed 09-10-2010 07:40 PM

Zombie thread!

sonic370 09-10-2010 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 94320)
Actually, automatic has SRM if you purchase with the sport package.

For the price I think the sport package is well worth it. The Nismo model has some great additions also, but I think Nissan might have fallen a little short. Yes they left off the oil cooler, but I think an upgraded LSD would have been better for the price you pay.
Sport package:
~SRM - price unknown (probably minimal)
~BBK - 2,000+
~19" Ray wheels - Price I cannot estimate
~Better tires
~LSD
~Rear/Front spoilers - Nissan charges 600USD

retail is one thing and a package another but if you have to replace a wheel get ready to shell out 1100 each.that doesn't include the tire.

sonic370 09-10-2010 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tjai370Z (Post 716209)
the sport package tires alone are like 1200+ a set on tirerack.com the rest 1800 goes to the vlsd, awesome brakes, synchrorev match and the 2 spoilers. i dont see how you can get all the aftermarket stuff of these and cost around the same and perform that good or better

your right but you left out the rays,1100 each

Kirkster 09-10-2010 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanGizinski (Post 716330)
Zombie thread!

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KaienZ34 09-10-2010 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirkster (Post 716505)
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brakedrift12 09-13-2010 12:14 AM

I dont know about the performance part but HELL YEAH~ for the body kits :)

fuct 09-13-2010 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicknick (Post 94484)
The specs are ok, just remove that hideous bodykit.

:gtfo2:

sad we share the same name :facepalm:

roplusbee 09-13-2010 09:05 AM

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Ummm, what happened here?


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