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ZForce 11-05-2011 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 1393804)
Unless you are tracking it, the water cooled one would be more ideal. Gets the oil to operating temp faster and keeps it there.

Air would be (theoretically) better if constantly pushing it to the limits, as on a track. On the road, it will be less consistent (even with a thermostat) and in the winter tend to keep the oil cooler than would be ideal (hence people relying on block off plates...).

Thanks for the 411. Makes sense to get the oil temp up to nominal operating range fast on cold start ups and then keep it there consitantly when outside temps get hotter in the summer time.

I like this approach and will wait to see what Z1 can do retrofitting the 2012 OEM for 09-11 models and how it tests out.

Just curious, at what outside tempture in degrees, do people in colder regions have to use block off plates?

PJRabbit 11-09-2011 07:12 AM

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First salvo fired. I did put the correct VIN into the first e-mail so I don't know what game NISSAN is playing there. I redacted the e-mails somewhat to delete any personal information as well.

Standard manufacturer response, I know. Boring.

I'm not done. I haven't received an e-mail response to my 'first response' e-mail so let the phone calls commence.

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awkwardturtle 11-17-2011 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by PJRabbit (Post 1398841)
First salvo fired. I did put the correct VIN into the first e-mail so I don't know what game NISSAN is playing there. I redacted the e-mails somewhat to delete any personal information as well.

Standard manufacturer response, I know. Boring.

I'm not done. I haven't received an e-mail response to my 'first response' e-mail so let the phone calls commence.

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This is a classic example of one of the many things wrong with society. We are NEVER satisfied, and we always demand satisfaction, even when we're wrong.

Your oil temps are not *dangerous*. If they were, you would have a legitimate gripe. But, they aren't, so alas, you do not. Nissan chose to IMPROVE upon their original design with an oil cooler - they did not do so out of fear of engine damage, but to improve upon their design. If this doesn't jive well with you, stop buying cars now because this happens to every single car at some point.

This is really no different than if they improved the intake and gained 5 hp on the model. Would you demand a new intake as well? What you're arguing for is improved performance of the car in general, not a safety feature.

PJRabbit 11-18-2011 09:29 AM

Wrong. At no point in any of my e-mails did I ask for more performance out of the car. I asked for a modification that would keep my oil out of the 240 degree range when driving 10-20mph in traffic on a summer day.

As far as me or anything I say being anything wrong with society, shove it up your self-righteous ***. I served my country in the military for 22 years and have been a taxpayer for going on 30. I vote in every election, own a house, and I have raised two very educated and strong children. I have a right to complain all I want, and I'm doing it the right way.

HKYStormFront 11-18-2011 09:37 AM

that's a productive attitude :shakes head:

PJRabbit 11-18-2011 09:40 AM

HKYStormFront
DON'T JUDGE ME!!!


Practice what you preach, sir.

HKYStormFront 11-18-2011 11:07 AM

lol touche and good luck to you sir! :tiphat:

Imperial 11-18-2011 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by HKYStormFront (Post 1413517)
that's a productive attitude :shakes head:

:iagree: Some people just feel entitled to everything.

HKYStormFront 11-18-2011 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Imperial (Post 1413694)
:iagree: Some people just feel entitled to everything.

apparently they are? :shrugs: who knew...:rolleyes:

awkwardturtle 11-18-2011 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by PJRabbit (Post 1413492)
Wrong. At no point in any of my e-mails did I ask for more performance out of the car. I asked for a modification that would keep my oil out of the 240 degree range when driving 10-20mph in traffic on a summer day.

As far as me or anything I say being anything wrong with society, shove it up your self-righteous ***. I served my country in the military for 22 years and have been a taxpayer for going on 30. I vote in every election, own a house, and I have raised two very educated and strong children. I have a right to complain all I want, and I'm doing it the right way.

All I got from that was " Dah dah dah, I'm better than you, I have a right to complain". What does serving in the military have to do with being right or wrong?

And yes, you are just asking for improved performance of the car. I'm not talking about performance in the sense of greater horsepower, but in how the engine itself performs at lower oil temps.

I get what you're saying, but you're still wrong. Again, 240* oil temps aren't going to kill your motor. A touch high, yes, but are they dangerous? No. So again.. Nissan doesn't owe you anything. They improved upon their design, but they didn't change something that was necessary.

PJRabbit 12-14-2011 07:24 AM

Sold!
 
Sold 2010 NISMO#0003 back to the dealer. I hope it finds a good home. The overheating oil was part of the reason, but not all of it. I won't be bothering anyone anymore with my negative comments. Peace.

Mikes350z 12-14-2011 10:00 AM

No way after this thread and the wanting of the 2012 "OEM Oil Cooler" did you sell your nismo? Good luck to you, and hope you find the car you want... Sad to see a nismo owner leave, especially with so many options available to fix this issue...

fuct 12-14-2011 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikes350z (Post 1448984)
No way after this thread and the wanting of the 2012 "OEM Oil Cooler" did you sell your nismo? Good luck to you, and hope you find the car you want... Sad to see a nismo owner leave, especially with so many options available to fix this issue...

really? who cares..... he can go whine about the next car he buys on some other site.

DCNISMO 12-14-2011 02:12 PM

I bought mine (Nismo) knowing I need to add the oil cooler at some point, and maybe brake ducts. Thats no big deal compared to the carbon caked valve engines that Audi and BMW make now, and refuse to fix for the most part or blown water pumps, scored cylinder walls that burn oil, and cam chain tensioners failing and cracked nylon cam chain guides. None of which they like to fix under the OEM warrenty. Adding an oil cooler for under 1K is no big deal. People spend more than that on a audio system anyhow, so whats the big deal of adding a oil cooler?

awkwardturtle 12-14-2011 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by fuct (Post 1449058)
really? who cares..... he can go whine about the next car he buys on some other site.

No kidding. I couldn't help but laugh when I read him demanding an oil cooler be refitted on his car :rolleyes:


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