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chii370 09-25-2013 05:41 AM

Yeah forgot that one lol. I was pretty sure I was up on the times, but it wouldnt be the first time that changes arent announced or known until after its launch. Im speaking out of hope i guess.

w4kj4k 11-03-2013 11:06 AM

Sorry to bump an old thread but if the nismo has a different tune...

What if i had a base model. Got the same exhaust, intake, tune.

And then the nismo got the same exhust, intake and tune. Would they produce the same numbers then or very similar?

andre12031948 11-03-2013 01:35 PM

Interesting thread-Learned alot
 
2013 & 2014 have fronts(lights)that I don't care for. My taste, everybody has theirs. 2012 is my best year to get(oil cooler). I am also looking at very low mileage 2011's(always can install an even better cooler).

Now I know that the Nismos, no matter what year, look the best, hottest & look fast just standing parked.

However, as a part time drag racer, I'd rather have a very quick Z than one that looks very quick. Beside 2012 Nismos, I'm also considering very low mileage 20011's & 12's base, base/sport. They can be bought at reasonable price this time of the year. With the money I would save, I can always tune it even better, & add a few mods that can put my Z into the 320=340 rear H.P. levels. I know several shops & seen the results. Of course it depended much of what dyno & how the shop sets it up:) They CAN make a car look better:) Anyway with that + gears & tires(slicks) I think I'll be much quicker than any N/A Nismo I know. So?????? Maybe next week :) That's all the time I have right now....

Anyone,
Has any new info come out for the 2015/new z ??????

MJB 11-03-2013 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 2553468)
2013 & 2014 have fronts(lights)that I don't care for. My taste, everybody has theirs. 2012 is my best year to get(oil cooler). I am also looking at very low mileage 2011's(always can install an even better cooler).

Now I know that the Nismos, no matter what year, look the best, hottest & look fast just standing parked.

However, as a part time drag racer, I'd rather have a very quick Z than one that looks very quick. Beside 2012 Nismos, I'm also considering very low mileage 20011's & 12's base, base/sport. They can be bought at reasonable price this time of the year. With the money I would save, I can always tune it even better, & add a few mods that can put my Z into the 320=340 rear H.P. levels. I know several shops & seen the results. Of course it depended much of what dyno & how the shop sets it up:) They CAN make a car look better:) Anyway with that + gears & tires(slicks) I think I'll be much quicker than any N/A Nismo I know. So?????? Maybe next week :) That's all the time I have right now....

Anyone,
Has any new info come out for the 2015/new z ??????

So if you add those parts to a Nismo Z you wouldn't get the same results? Or is there some bylaw that says if you buy a Nismo you can't upgrade it?

andre12031948 11-03-2013 03:37 PM

Yes
 
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Originally Posted by MJB (Post 2553515)
So if you add those parts to a Nismo Z you wouldn't get the same results? Or is there some bylaw that says if you buy a Nismo you can't upgrade it?

Ok, let me explain. The avg. 2012 low mileage 100 miles to 12,000 miles Nismo costs $30k to $35k.
The avg. base or bas/sport of the same^^^^^^can be had from $24k to $26k.

So if I got test tubes, 4:08 gears, an Osires uprev tune, I would have a much quicker Z than a Nismo and apx. $5k in my pocket, or money to spend on other fun things. Sure you can do that to a Nismo.

All options open. With luck or I'll say without bad luck showing up, I should be buying a 370z next week :ughdance:

MJB 11-03-2013 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 2553539)
Ok, let me explain. The avg. 2012 low mileage 100 miles to 12,000 miles Nismo costs $30k to $35k.
The avg. base or bas/sport of the same^^^^^^can be had from $24k to $26k.

So if I got test tubes, 4:08 gears, an Osires uprev tune, I would have a much quicker Z than a Nismo and apx. $5k in my pocket, or money to spend on other fun things. Sure you can do that to a Nismo.

All options open. With luck or I'll say without bad luck showing up, I should be buying a 370z next week :ughdance:

Oh yeah I forgot, us Nismo owners spent the extra money because we knew the extra 18hp was going to destroy a regular stock Z in a straight line :ugh2:.

Dude, since you are so high and mighty on drag racing... don't you think there are way better platforms out there for it? I mean if you are content to low 13 sec 1/4 miles, have at it. I would rather buy a 5.0 or something like that which is in the same price range if not cheaper than a Z and is mid 12 sec stock. A low mileage C5 Z06 can be bought for mid to high 20k, and would blow the doors off a Z, Nismo or not.

andre12031948 11-03-2013 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MJB (Post 2553569)
Oh yeah I forgot, us Nismo owners spent the extra money because we knew the extra 18hp was going to destroy a regular stock Z in a straight line :ugh2:.

Dude, since you are so high and mighty on drag racing... don't you think there are way better platforms out there for it? I mean if you are content to low 13 sec 1/4 miles, have at it. I would rather buy a 5.0 or something like that which is in the same price range if not cheaper than a Z and is mid 12 sec stock. A low mileage C5 Z06 can be bought for mid to high 20k, and would blow the doors off a Z, Nismo or not.

I don't know why & what problem you have with me considering my options. I didn't say anything bad against a Nismo. I'm still looking at my options.

As far as drag racing, if I get those other muscle cars I would just get lost. Being with a group of ricers, perhaps like yourself, I & my low to mid twelve second times with only a few mods can really stand out & be noticed. Why get into a group of people that know how to drive as good or better than I????? :icon17:

MJB 11-03-2013 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 2553582)
I don't know why & what problem you have with me considering my options. I didn't say anything bad against a Nismo. I'm still looking at my options.

As far as drag racing, if I get those other muscle cars I would just get lost. Being with a group of ricers, perhaps like yourself, I & my low to mid twelve second times with only a few mods can really stand out & be noticed. Why get into a group of people that know how to drive as good or better than I????? :icon17:

First off, I have no problem with your decisions... I'm just wondering why if your sole purpose in life is to drag race your car, why not buy a way better platform for it. Second, I am not a ricer, lol. Third, a mustang, or Vette is not a muscle car, they are sports cars just like the Z. Ok, I think by now everybody in the entire world knows your were able to hit mid 12's with your 350z... since you kind of mention it in 90% of your posts. I just said low 13s because that is the average times for a full bolt on 370 with a good driver. Plus I think you said you wanted AT so the Nismo is completely out of the picture anyways. Good luck whatever you decide.

andre12031948 11-03-2013 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MJB (Post 2553591)
First off, I have no problem with your decisions... I'm just wondering why if your sole purpose in life is to drag race your car, why not buy a way better platform for it. Second, I am not a ricer, lol. Third, a mustang, or Vette is not a muscle car, they are sports cars just like the Z. Ok, I think by now everybody in the entire world knows your were able to hit mid 12's with your 350z... since you kind of mention it in 90% of your posts. I just said low 13s because that is the average times for a full bolt on 370 with a good driver. Plus I think you said you wanted AT so the Nismo is completely out of the picture anyways. Good luck whatever you decide.

First, thank god I don't have to say that(my times) again :) Second, I know for a fact that MANY STOCK 370 Z's turn 13 flat to low 13's without much problems. "low 13's with a full bolt on 370z with a good driver is NOT TRUE"!!!

Unless they are using only two of the four gears or maybe, most likely that has been YOUR experience.

I'm open to a 370z guy that has done some drag racing with a fully modded 370 doing only low 13's to post here!!!!

Someone please. You don't count. I already know what you can do. Now it may not be your fault, that rear spoiler you have can be a real big wind catcher :)

MJB 11-03-2013 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 2553609)
First, thank god I don't have to say that(my times) again :) Second, I know for a fact that MANY STOCK 370 Z's turn 13 flat to low 13's without much problems. "low 13's with a full bolt on 370z with a good driver is NOT TRUE"!!!

Unless they are using only two of the four gears or maybe, most likely that has been YOUR experience.

I'm open to a 370z guy that has done some drag racing with a fully modded 370 doing only low 13's to post here!!!!

Someone please. You don't count. I already know what you can do. Now it may not be your fault, that rear spoiler you have can be a real big wind catcher :)

Your posts are so convoluted.. half the time I can't even articulate what the hell you are trying to say. So you are saying the average full bolt on and tuned 370z with a good driver doesn't average low 13s? What times then, 12's? And don't be talking about my wing dude. Lol, I bet if I take it off you would buy it from me when you get your 370. :tup: I see mostly 13s here- http://www.the370z.com/track-autocro...ack-times.html

How about you just buy my low mileage Nismo when I sale it in the next couple months and we'll call it even.

andre12031948 11-03-2013 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MJB (Post 2553620)
Your posts are so convoluted.. half the time I can't even articulate what the hell you are trying to say. So you are saying the average full bolt on and tuned 370z with a good driver doesn't average low 13s? What times then, 12's? And don't be talking about my wing dude. Lol, I bet if I take it off you would buy it from me when you get your 370. :tup: I see mostly 13s here- http://www.the370z.com/track-autocro...ack-times.html

I saw your link, and what I saw was PURE stock 370z's doing 12,9's/13"s & low 13's. The bolted section was from 12.2 to mid twelve. You said good drivers.

THAT'S WHY I WANT A Z !!!! Like I said, nobody would notice me if I competed with a car that has most of their drivers knowing how to drive.

With some Z drivers doing 12.2's & others doing 13.8 says a lot! I want to be part of a group that YOU belong to, drivers with a fully bolted Z's turning ONLY low 13's......

andre12031948 11-03-2013 05:17 PM

My car was NOT fully bolted by far & it was only a 350
 
So should I expect my FULLY BOLTED Z doing 11.9's???? :p

Chuck33079 11-03-2013 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 2553652)
So should I expect my FULLY BOLTED Z doing 11.9's???? :p

You also were on slicks, so it's not exactly apples to apples.

MJB 11-03-2013 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 2553648)
I saw your link, and what I saw was PURE stock 370z's doing 12,9's/13"s & low 13's. The bolted section was from 12.2 to mid twelve. You said good drivers.

THAT'S WHY I WANT A Z !!!! Like I said, nobody would notice me if I competed with a car that has most of their drivers knowing how to drive.

With some Z drivers doing 12.2's & others doing 13.8 says a lot! I want to be part of a group that YOU belong to, drivers turning with a fully bolted Z's turning ONLY low 13's......

That is cool man, get what you would like. I love the Z and think its a great overall performance sports car. I was just throwing out the heavy hitters like the 5.0 and Vette because they have some really fast 1/4 times stock, and I know you are all about that. Buuuuuut, remember, with the Nismo having the extra 18hp, you could possibly shave off .5 sec to a regular Z's time :bowrofl:

andre12031948 11-03-2013 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2553655)
You also were on slicks, so it's not exactly apples to apples.

Slicks are 100% part of the bolt on rules. Others also use & tried using slicks with not good results.
Let's put into the mix that I had STOCK intakes & base stock Nissan exhaust, minus cats.

All are welcome to use any tires they want. Get slicks, please.

Tell you a little secret. First day I used my slicks, I was so unhappy that I drove around the track trying to sell them. It took me over 9 months to learn how to use them.


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