Wtf!
 

So the story goes like this. I have been let's just say a driver of the German type engineering since i was a child. I am going to give a lineup, not for bragging rights but rather to focus the attention to my current situation.

1986 - VW Golf Diesel (Riced to look like a GTI) Sunk in a freak submarine disaster.
1987 - VW GTI (The car I originally desired) Terrible wreck
1988 - VW Jetta GLI (Sweet 4 door) the good old days of BBS and Blaupunkt
1991 - VW Passt GLX VR6 (Crazy upgrade and a bit of power)
1993 - VW Corrado VR6 Now I have to say that this was a truly elegant sports Coupe for the money. Good power and refined. Love it! Wrecked!
1995 VW Passat Wagon GLX VR6 (Great wagon....Hell Great Car)!!
1996 VW Jetta GLX VR6 fairly well modded. Great handling, quick and tight
1998 BMW 540i To be honest...quick, cool, but....anyway into a wall at 127!
1998 BMW M3 (Tracking begins) Solid Vehicle, excellent on the track, loved it!
2000 BMW M3 Supercharged (Better then before...begin winning!)
2002 BMW M5 (Should have stayed with the M3) HEAVY!!!!
2004 VW R32 (EIP racing exhaust, chipped) For real......this was one of my very favorite cars) Fast, loud and held to the road like GLUE!!
2006 Mercedes SLK55 AMG with racing pack (Awesome N/A speed, good looks, impressive features and certainly turned heads. Blew the F1 Transmission. Car sat idle waiting to be fixed for 2.5 months. I got pissed and traded it!
2007 BMW 335i Coupe (Solid car, awesome engine with very low psi perside on turbos) This car scared the M3 to a V8!

So there it is. Now comes October of 2009. I sell my 3351 and my Dually to Nissan in one day and walk with a 370z Nimso and a Titan. Just like that I run to Japan. I Absolutely love my Nismo and the Titan. The Nismo will be tracked for sure, but I have a couple of things that need to be done. I will do my best to keep this car N/A at least until a time proven Super Charger comes out. There is a point to this:stirthepot:..........I have written this lengthy note to Prove a point.:icon18:

ALL I WANT TO KNOW FROM NISMO OWNERS ONLY IS WHAT WTF MOD GIVES YOU THE BEST UPFRONT BANG FOR THE BUCK!! Please leave the CAI issue alone as I am positive someone will come out with a much better option then Stillen, Injen or whomever else has tried. This engine bay needs to breath period! The air is tooooo stagnant........needs some venting for sure! Talk to me about HFC's and all that good stuff. Horsepower for N/A engine!!

Thanks

lol.. 17.5whp from a cold air intake isn't bang for the buck?

We can help you build a full race car if you're interested.. we've done quite a few..

I would say that it is a decent bang for the buck Josh, but the i would prefer to just have a different channeling of the intake itself.....so much pipe. The point of my message was that you could go on for months reading about CAI's and inevitably it is going to end in some JA calling some other JA a boob for their preference. I do not want a race car, but a weekend track car that will push the buttons on the Euro's. is there any difference is the install for the Nismo. Really......no BS......PM me with some real info about everything you have available and maybe we can get me where I want to be. Am i special? Nope, but I would love to explore the world of the Z while i have one.

Staying NA is easy and plenty of options, since you say you want to track the car you should also look at brakes (pads, fluids, etc.). For performance numbers the best so far (ie you can buy today): Stillen Gen III intake, Berk HFC, and Stillen CBE.
Unknown items that are in production are Fast Intenstion long tube headers, Berk CBE, AEM intake.

Other items to look into upgrading with no clear cut winner in performance, pulley (Stillen or NonStopTuning), lighter flywheel, tuen (Cobb or Uprev). Since you have a Nismo you might like the stock suspension for awhile, but I can bet over time you will want to upgrade that also.

Best bag for the buck is the intake or the HFC's IMO. My plans for a little extra power are Stillen Gen III intake, Berk HFC, jim wolf clutch package (the z has a extremely heavy flywheel, 32lbs I think, wolfs is a 16 lber), at some point swaping the Cat back out for a Berk system, some non-stop tunning pulleys and a tune from cobb. And I have to agree with you that the corrado was an amazing car, a friend had one back in college and I always wanted one, loved driving it.

Best suspension upgrade for the Nismo is to remove the shipping spacers the dealer left on the front springs, best of all it's free!

Did it. Couldn't believe it! I still wonder if a few of the preliminary reviews on the suspension were due to this. I had 3 per side front and 2 per side rear. I still need to know abouit fitment issues with the Nismo and the Stillen CAI aside from the cutout. Anyone??

Only one person I know has done the Stillen Gen III install on the Nismo and he got them to work, but the Nismo has some extra plates or something for the bumper which either had to be removed or modified.

That is what I figured. Maybe Josh can chime in here? What about the ARC brand boxes? Anyone?

nismo upgrades
 

I agree with you. It seems most posts address the regular Z, yet the nismo probably has fitment issues for intakes, exhaust, etc. Can the nismo exhaust be modified at all? Are HFC's enough, both for performance and sound? The Cobb guys that tuned my STI said many are going back to the stock box for air intake and just a K&N type filter. This could be a great thread for me. Thanks, in advance.:tup:

Well so far it is not 100% if the extra HP is from the tune or the exhaust so HFC are a nice addition to any setup. Exhaust wise we have seen many exhaust systems thrown on the Nismo already that were only tested on the Coupe.

i'm having a set of stillen G3's fitted friday along with a oil cooler will take some pictures

I bet you can do a 350whp *minimum* SAE corrected (+/- 15whp depending on dyno) all motor Nismo 370z.... 93 octane, Fitch Fuel catalyst, injen sp1990p intakes, eneos 0w50 oil or 5w40, ppe 837001 long tube headers, pick an exhaust, do the new exhaust cams, nismo upgraded tune, jwt or OS Giken clutch / flywheel, and eneos mtf. Forgot to mention a Nismo 4.083 Ring & Pinion, the new Enkei PF01 18x10.5" wheels all around, and A'Pexi S1 Dampers.

Half that list is the worst bang for the buck you can buy for the Nismo, plus some of it does not help. If you want bang for the buck for the Nismo performance, start with HFC and then on to intake. After that you are with everyone else (coupe/roadster) in terms of upgrades needed for track or other needs.

That guys is almost more pro than this guy ~>http://www.the370z.com/lounge-off-to...questions.html

Agreed......HFC. I personally feel that the Nismo exhaust is a tight setup...it just needs a little breathing room. Not crazy about the throttle lag, but the HFC might help that a bit. Shorter shifter might also be a possibility.

Throttle lag I am not 100% sure on to fix or lessen, you have lighter flywheels or better pulleys which will probably reduce throttle lag.

Yes, the Gen 3 can be installed onto the Nismo, but does require some slight modification to the air diffuser present in the longer nose of the Nismo. Customers haven't had any issues, but we haven't had a chance to do high speed testing or prolonged track time to see if modifying that would affect the cooling abilities of the air stream, so we do not advertise it's fitment.

It may never be an issue, but we choose not to push things that we haven't had a chance to test in different environments.

But like I said, quite a few guys are running the Gen 3's and very happy with the results.

How about the ARC boxes???.......Anyone?

On my nismo I got berks HFC, no cell lights and adds good hp, I installed the stillen G3 using the install others posted with no problem, the only difference in the nismo install is we have a plastic plate under where the filter cones are impeding airflow, I just cut it out with a dremel (you'll see what i mean if you do the install),.......I'm planning on adding the stillen/ or Gtm supercharger so if your planning that route just get the HFC and maybe exhaust (if you don't like the nismo) because the G3 won't work on a SC, cheers!

Good words Stiso. Thanks. ARC anyone??

TESTED ON NISMO:

Injen +13whp SP1990P / SP1990BLK - NO MODIFICATIONS FOR NISMO - **Less than $580** It's the only intake "Tuned" for the Nismo. Either Buy a non-tuned intake like JWT, Stillen, AEM, K&N & Buy a tune or Buy just the Injen Intake!

PPE Long tube race headers +23whp for $750 - Eliminates Cats, No need to add HFC or Test Pipes (otherwise it would be stillen $549+ berk hfc $500=$1049)

Eneos 0W50 + 10whp $11/qt


The rest of the stuff I listed is if he wanted to go further

None of which you have proven results from members, we all know vendors skew the results in their favor. It has been proven time and again that what they say and what you get are slightly different or completely different.
Also, what is this "tune" stuff you are talking about? Please, explain how the Injen are that much different or tuned specifically for the Nismo versus the coupe/roadster versions.

Also, the best bang for the buck is:
~HFC (Berk has the highest gains)
~Stillen Gen III
~Exhaust (Stillen has the highest gains followed by Fast Intentions & Berk)

you forgot the throttle body spacer and turbonator oh and aftermarket coil on plugs while your at it!

http://img.alibaba.com/photo/11313831/Turbonator.jpg

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I dont even have a Z and I think your an idiot. But mind you I have been around Mustangs since I was born.

HFC's best bang for the buck

eh depends on how much your buck is and what you are trying to accomplish.

Tires typically are your best bang for your buck because they increase performance in every aspect accelerating, braking, cornering and so on.

Next I would say would be nitrous. Show me one other mod that for less than $1,000 dollars you can make 75-200 horsepower more. Granted you need to stay within the limits of your car there as far as how much nitrous you add

Never mind I just looked back at his post and saw he said N/A

Not quite sure why you're hellbent on getting ARC boxes. Nobody I know of (on these forums, at least) has bought them because they're crazy expensive. I'm sure you'll see some performance gains out of it, but is it really worth it over the better priced Injens or Stillen intake?

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And 370z370z...why does it seem like you're pulling out ricer math on us? Gains don't add up that easily...and just because it says Injen tuned on the pipe doesn't mean it's tuned specifically for the 370z, much less the NISMO 370z. If there's an Injen rep here that can prove otherwise, I'm ALL ears.

But you are talking 1000.00 for nice tires.

500.00 for HFC's and about 18RWHP, pretty good to me.

I agree Nitrous is fun cheap power, but he wants N/A like you said.

That's what brings me back to HFC's

very true which is why I said depends on how much your buck is and what your goals are. Plus if you factor in that tires give you performance across the board and not just in a straight line, then you might be able to argue the bang for your buck.

Plus if he is going to track it, 18hp isnt going to make as much of a difference as a good set of tires IMHO.

:iagree: ...friends..lol

Don't necessarily want the ARC boxes, just curious and hoping to less the air travel, but who knows? Working on it.........will post my decsions later for those interested. Thinking the HFC's to start.