Attention 2015 and 2016 Nismo Owners
 

Can 2015 and 2016 Nismo owners verify that their suspension and stabilizer bars match what is advertised on the Nissan website?

My 2016 has black springs, black struts, and black stabilizer bars. I spoke with Nissan Field Quality Investigations and they said this became standard starting with the 2015 model and that the Nissan website needs to be corrected.

How about more details. What is advertised on their website?

Exact same setup on my '15... all black. (was initially kinda dissapointed but whatcha gonna do...)

Same here, I guess when you get the NISMO now it's nothing special. Reason why we don't have number plate. I wonder if someone made a class action lawsuit we could get the NISMO suspension

Any chance to get photos of the 15+ Nismo springs/sways?
Would be able to compare to the coupe & previous model Nismo to see what they changed or if they just started using the same suspension components for all models now.

Can you get a better look at the struts? I remember on my 09 Nismo the struts had the words Nismo or Autech engraved onto it. And the sway bars were black, not gray like the Nismo S-tune sway bars you can buy.

Oh noes...........yet another reason to steer clear of the 15+ NISMO for me.

Stay calm everyone. The Nismo does have it's own springs, struts, and probably sway bars too.

I did not see anywhere on the Nissan website that shows pictures of the Nismo suspension. OP, what are you referring to?

Oh noes black springs and no stupid number plate, my car is a joke! Better sue Nissan! :rolleyes:

Are you guys serious with this crap?

The 2015+ NISMO is the best NISMO ever. Now put on some dry pants and go drive your cars. :shakes head:

Exactly.

The 2015 is very slightly less stiff than the 2009 - 2014, not much at all... In fact sometimes I doubt there is even a difference, it's so slight. Still WAY stiffer than a regular 370Z.

Go to the local stealership and get a quote for a sway bar and see what the part description is.

I was keeping my mouth shut until someone else brought the springs and suspension up. He is right the springs and everything else is black. As far as the performance it's quite a bit different than my 13. First thing I had to get used to the suspension is not near as stiff it's actually pretty loose more comparable to a regular Z. I now have to actually watch my oversteer.. Like what someone has already said what's done is done. I still love my car. I don't know if this is correct but my service manager stated they shortened the wheel base in the front for 15+? IDK maybe this is a factor maybe not but it's definitely not a 14 down Nismo feel. If the springs have the same specs as the 14 down then the color doesn't really matter not like you really see them anyway.

I got out of my '14 which I'd driven quite a bit in the spring and into the '15 for the test drive and I did not notice much difference at all.

Unless the current sport/touring is significantly stiffer than the 2012 sport/touring Z, the NISMO was and is still considerably, undeniably stiffer, while I don't even think I would have noticed the difference between the '14 NISMO and the '15 were I not told that the '15 suspension was a little softer, i.e. "9/10 instead of 10/10."

Have to disagree with you there I would say more like 6.5/10 to 10/10. I didn't really know about the changes until actually driving the car then read more about it after. Just took some getting used to a corner I used to hit at 100+ comfortably no sway no negative response in the steering I now get in the 15. That's how I noticed and found the real difference is real time driving using same turns and speeds. Its changed how I approach a lot of my turns. Not bashing on it just different do I want to sue Nissan that would be a negative. If I cared that much I would just trade with a 13 or 14 owner who was wanting the 15.

Well, If the '15 NISMO is 6.5/10 and the '14 is 10/10 then the 2012 370Z Sport Package is like 3.5/10.

The '15 NISMO is definitely more compliant, I can tell simply by driving the car for 3 hours and not feeling like I have been in a car wreck. I have neck issues (from a car wreck) and I could only take so much of the '14. The '15 is still very much stiffer than the '12 Sport Package though, which I did not think was stiff at all.

I drive about 1.5 hours to a friend's house and back pretty often in the summer and I would always be hurting on the way back in the '14 - I did the same trip twice in one weekend in the '15 with nothing but a smile on my face the whole time.

In actual cornering performance I don't notice much of a difference on the street on fast on-and-off ramps, and even feel like on some corners with bumps the car is less likely to get unsettled. No doubt the prior NISMO would be faster on a perfectly smooth road, though. If you are looking for something to drive at 10/10 then the '14 NISMO would be better/faster. I just wanted something stiffer/sportier than the Sport Package Z (which I liked, but found pretty soft and cushy) but not so bad that I could not drive it for 3 hours. :ugh:

Anyway yes the '15 NISMO is less stiff and harsh. To what degree, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. But there is no ******* way it's using the Sport Package springs unless the '13 "Euro Tuned" shocks/springs were way, way stiffer than the 2012.

Oh I'm not saying they are or aren't same springs as the sports. Just a big difference in suspension between the 14 down NISMO and the 15+ that's what they were going for though and they achieved it. Ride comfortably I do agree it is much softer and can ride for hours without much discomfort. I think that's what the OP is getting at though. Reviews complained so much about how rigid and stiff it was Nissan apparently tried to address that and did. However the NISMO is suppose to be a track ready car I don't know what people complained about. It wasn't sold as a luxury car it was sold and marketed as an aggressive sports car designed with track in mind. Just my 2 cents

I hear you. I think the only thing I really disagree with is the level of difference between the two. I really feel only a little difference in stiffness. A big gap between either NISMO version and the Sport 370Z, but not much difference between the NISMOs.

I would really like to see the spring rate numbers but I can't find any - Nissan is still quoting the same percentage stiffness increase front to rear that they were for the '14 and all we get as far as details from the magazines is "re-tuned suspension."

Personally I'd rather have the best suspension I can live with daily and I think Nissan did a great job with it, for my purposes. Like it's dialed back just enough I can stand it for 3+ hours.

I think what people expected from the NISMO varies. I expected something like a "Sport+" 370Z. I expected it to be harsh and stripped down, and it was. And, I liked it...

Except after a while I missed having the better stereo and seats, because the interior just doesn't say "This is a 40K+ car." It was great on my 50 mile round-trip to work or go go driving for an hour or so, but once I drove it back and forth to my friend's house 2 or 3 times on those rough northern Indiana highways and wondered if I still had my fillings or if I would ever be able to sit fully upright again, I began to wish for something a little more liveable.

BTW OP, you are correct, Nissan needs to update the web site.

:bowrofl:

Could it be a combination of new suspension changes and aero / downforce that would be causing the looseness at high speeds?

This Nismo 2015 review suggests this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsrNnW_BYxM

I've driven a number of pre-2015s and love the feel of the car and never felt loose at high speeds, but I have yet to drive a 2015.

Unfortunately I agree with his review that's almost exactly what I think about the aerodynamics and changes they've made. He pretty much hit it on the head.

Oh and to answer your question yes I believe it has to do with the aerodynamics (aggressive more open front bumper). Seems the suspension changes have loosened the car quite a bit and even though some don't "like" the 14 and down Nismo spoiler it seems like it does add some downforce? Since no one seems to have done a direct comparison and shown the exact changes side by side it's hard to tell. Unless someone uncovered something I have not.

When I bought my 2014 they had a 2015 sitting right next to it. So of course I had to test drive it. Now the 2015 was an AT so it wasn't exactly apples to apples, but I felt it was a little looser and softer. I also felt like it had a little more sound deadening inside, the road noise wasn't as bad as the 14 in my opinion. At the end of the day the 2014 won out for me. I liked the body kit, track feel, and MT of the 2014 over the 2015.

Well they did do some tweaking starting with the 13s. Something about Euro-tuned suspension, but my memory may be a little off. I think it was right with the 09s. As much as I don't like the direction that they took, they did the right thing by offering all of the touring type stuff that you could get in Japan in the 09 NISMO. I just don't like the new NISMO look. Just give me the fog light and the running lights and I am happy!