genesis to 370z?
 

Hello my name is brandon
I live in fort myers florida
I had a 2010 Hyundai Genesis 2.0t until about 2 weeks ago, and before that i owned a pontiac GTP, toyota supra turbo and a nissan s14 240sx.
I have been looking around at newer cars and wanted to get more info on the 370z. I always find the forums very helpful
heres a few pics of the old Genesis
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Welcome! :hello:
look around and use the search if you don't find what your looking for.
very nice pics

what info are you looking for? I have drove a genesis so if you are wondering a comperison let me know? Also any specific info you would like please let me know?
Frank

Welcome!

What happened to the Gen?

just wondering if there are any comon issues with them. There is a few issues with all genesis like the transmission and engine hp. Also how the daily driving is on them.

Thanks!
and a tree happened

The Gen Coupe was a big let down for me...

I have driven like 10 of them, hoping, praying, wishing it would be better with the next one. Sadly... it never got any better. I drove every freakin' combination available and I really think that a stock Honda Civic EX is about as fast as the 2.0t. It is that slow.

The 3.8 isn't much better... once you look past the cheap plastic and leather interior, you still have to put up with the gearbox and the fact that it doesn't do anything when you floor it.

I drove the 370Z and from the very first drive I knew it was what I wanted. The 370Z is more expensive for a car with less options but it is a much more solid car than the Genesis is. Faster, higher quality, better engine and transmission and it isn't a Hyundai.

With all of the little quirks that the Z has, the Gen Coupe still has nothing on it. The ONLY thing I like about the Gen Coupe is the fact that the Touring model is around 30k and it comes with Brembos, blue-tooth, ipod hook up ect ect.

OP, have you ever driven a 370Z?

Genesis, the Z has some issues, as all cars do. One thing you'll notice, obv, is that the Genny Coupe has a back seat, small as it is.

Some of the common issues that I recommend you search for on this site are: oil overheating on track days (which can be fixed with aftermarket oil coolers), road noise, cheap paint, and there are a handful of others.

The biggest problem that I've had with mine in the last year is that I can't get the sh**-eatin' grin off of my face no matter how hard I try.:icon17:

:iagree:

yeah i have talked to 2 of my friends that have the 40th anv and a nismo. they have both talked about the oil overheating. Hyundai really let me down on my car, they forgot to tighten the tranny fluid plug and it slowly leaked out. I took it to them complaining of the tranny making noise and acting weird. they said everything was ok so i started modding the car, intake, BOV, piggyback, and turboback. took it back in because i figured out what they did and the told me i took out the tranny and the entire car was voided. By 5K miles the seats were comming undone and the stearing wheel was pealing and voided.

i like your choice of color for your cars :)

So you wrecked it? Pictures?

I didn't like driving the genesis. Felt real slow.those eyes are so sinister tho.

right on the spot! lol

this is why I will never buy a Hyundai

yeah its why i will never buy another one

why did you get rid of the genesis?
that car hs probably THE hottest rear end I've seen :icon17:

you'll get a 100hp bump from the genesis to the Z and power everywhere unlike Turbo engines (I come from a wrx)
don't know how the genesis handles but the the Z comes with invisible tracks that follow you everywhere just like a train so when you take turns it goes where you want it to go :eekdance:

My friend has the 2010 3.8 Genesis Base
He has full boltons and a tune and it's alright
But the Z takes of the gen everyday [:<
Idk he has the auto so maybe manual sucks...

genesis looks clean! nice collection of previous cars!

Like I said man, all you need is an oil cooler. I haven't tracked the car yet but it hasn't gone above 220 or so which is about normal.

haha most times. He saw my Z after it flew off the tracks

Good luck with finding your new car. It's too bad you didn't seem to enjoy the Genesis Coupe that much... How did your interior get worn out so badly? Mine looks new at 25k miles..
Mind if I share the thread with your car?
Genesis vs tree - Genesis Forum: GenCoupe Hyundai Genesis Forums

@TypeOne stop lying...

O owW

Who's lying?

I'm a member of Gencoupe.com as well... search my name. I joined 10-2008, before the car was even in showrooms because I was set on getting one.

I read the forums all the time and when the day came for me to drive a 3.8 Track, I left the dealership pissed off because of how disappointed I was.

I know why I didn't buy one... because it seemed like it was cheaply made and the gearbox is garbage.

Everyone has their own opinions about it and honestly the best choice I made was to NOT buy a Gen Coupe, wait 2 more years an buy the car I really wanted.

The 370Z. :tiphat:

One of the many things I like about the Z is it seems to be a much more mature group of owners. The only derogatory remarks I have seen on this forum come from owners of other vehicles...hmmm;)

I actually just joined today and I should have introduced myself first but I was browsing the newbies and ran across this one, I'm debating between the two cars, but I seem to be leaning more towards the 370z. The gen does have some nice appeal to it but I seem to like the Z a lot more when it comes to performance wise and the fact that its been around a lot longer than the genesis makes me lean towards it as well. Congrats on the Z by the way!

I really respect what Hyundai is doing with their cars now a days, they are really bumping their image but they still have a lot to learn in the process.
Nissan has been making some of the most legendary cars for a long time now.
;)

I joined this forum about a year ago because I was looking to get a 370Z. Requirements for my car were 2-door Coupe, manual tranny, superb performance and handling, great styling and comfort.

The Gen Coupe was always on the radar. After laying down all the pros and cons of each, the Gen Coupe came out on top because of my driving style and what I needed it for. I was looking for a Daily Driver, and I thought the Z was going to be a little overkill for my commute to and from work. I work for Mercedes-Benz and since I am in the auto business, I ONLY lease cars. The lease on a Gen Coupe versus a Z was leaps and bounds better. Hyundai's Residual and MF was just too good to pass up. Even getting both cars at triple-net.

On any rate, I got the 3.8 6-Speed Track Edition with the Brembos, LSD, HID, Nav, and all the bells and whistles. Performance wise, I knew the Z was better but the value of the Hyundai was literally like a b*tch slap the in the face of the Z. If I were going to track the car, I'd take the Z hands down. For every day use, you're not beating the Gen Coupe and what the car offers. I have not had single problem with the car. No tranny issues whatsoever.

Agreed that the 2.0T is slow as a dog, but the 3.8 offers fantastic performance and styling. It's a satisfaction knowing that I'm still faster than 95% of the cars on the road. I'm used to 500+ HP AMG missles (with the exception of our C63 AMG with only 451-HP) and the Gen Coupe is quick. I'll always be a fan of the Z, but some of you who bash it because it's a Hyundai seriously need to get out more. I work for the best automotive brand in the world in MB, and my co-workers don't even question me why I drive a Hyundai anymore. In fact, I frown when anybody talks bad about another company.

I guesss... to each their own.

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I've driven the 3.8 track a few times and the grand touring once. The power on the 6cyl gen is great. The problem is the crappy tranny doesn't deliver the hp well. The interior quality I think is good. Remember. The price point of the 3.8 is 27.5k and its still a fully equipped model at base. (2011 models)
The 370 is the superior performing car because where nissan put most of its money. Hyundai was trying to build a performance value. A more well rounded car of features and performance. A fully blown gen is 34k and a fully blown Z is 44k. That's 10 grand up top. That's alota cake but yet the gen has all the same features for less. Does the Z do it better? Hell yeah... it better for 10,000 smacks...
The Z is a full performance package. To get sport brakes on the Z you must pay 34.5k and that's without leather. That's nearly $7k difference in price from the R-spec. The z gets you a superior engine transmission and suspension. The interior of a base Z and an Rspec are not far off in quality though the Z has a design edge. Lastly wheelbase and backseats make these cars different animals.
For those comparing these 2 cars like they cost the same are ridiculous. Hyundai has its issues. I knew there was going to be tranny issues when hyundai asked Zf to make generic parts for the hyundai issue tranny. But 2012 new trannies are coming. That's how the car biz is... especiallially with 1st year Sports cars.
I can understand why the op has buyers remorse but he would have those issues with any brand new year one car. Those buyers are basically crash test dummies. But like all car companies, the gen is destined to get better. Its an excellent first attempt at a real sports coupe.

Exactly what do you do for MB? Why don't you drive one of the cars from the "best automotive brand in the world?"

I'm really not talking BAD about any car company, but lets remember what we are discussing here.

Hyundai. In case you have forgot, it's the same company that brought you these.

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Seriously, look at the Gen Coupes heritage. I'm not here to argue that the car isn't well equipped. Sure it is. If options is more important than quality.

What is the old saying... Quality before Quantity?

That is certainly a matter of opinion.

06+ Civic Si's with bolt ons will give you a run.

Could it because they are tired of hearing a Hyundai owner justify why they bought (or in your case leased) a Hyundai?

I'm not trying to be a d*ck here, I just want you to see why these cars are so different. If you don't care about owning a quality sports car that has more than 40 years of heritage, built and designed by one of the most innovative and motorsport-oriented companies in the world than that is fine. But don't complain when I say the Genesis has a garbage gear box.


Here it is again... the "value." Man, Hyundai must be killin' it with the PR stuff. Why was it a slap in the face? Because Nissan doesn't want to give away things for free or lower the quality of their Z car? I think the Z is priced appropriately and the people that drive them seem to be a different type of crowd.

:tiphat:

I am a Star Certified Sales Consultant and an AMG Specialist of the biggest AMG Performance Center in the USA. As I stated above, I was looking for a 2-Door Coupe and manual tranny and MB does NOT offer it. I work for them, they give me a demo to drive any time I want (2011 E350 4Matic), and my whole family drives them. That is why I went in a different direction. We have an Infiniti showroom and a G37S could of been had at a DEP (Dealer Employee Pricing), and I still chose the Gen Coupe.


Ummm No... no it will not and not even close. I traded in my 08 Civic Si Coupe with all the bolt-ons and I wouldn't be any where close to the 3.8. It'll beat the 2.0T though...




My argument to my coworkers wasn't a long one. Just handed them the keys, let them take it for a spin, and case closed. We also have a Porsche/Aston Martin showroom next to our MB one, and I see 370Z's there every day, including another coworker in the company that owns one. I'm sure he had to justify himself to the Porsche crew as well. Sooo what's your point?


You aren't being a d*ck at all. I can obvi see why and how these 2 cars are different. Like I said, to each their own and the Gen Coupe was better suited for my lifestyle. I actually only wanted a 2-seater as I hate people sitting in the back! When did I complain the gearbox was garbage? I admit my Civic Si had a better gearbox. Whatever Nissan's heritage is, MB is one up so I really don't care about who has more heritage or who is more innovative. As you can see since I leased a Hyundai.




I can't type anymore on my Blackberry... I'll finish later on or tomorrow. Merry Christmas everyone!

Yes ur car is better happy lol

Let's get back on topic, I hope this thread doesn't degenerate into a "bash Hyundai/prop Nissan" argument.

First off:

:yum:

For OP, I'll need to add oil consumption was also listed as a problem in the past, but I haven't heard it crop up lately. Probably the only thing you may miss coming from a Gen Coupe would be the back seats. :p

Could I ask what you paid for this? Curious. What's the real issue with the Gen Coupe's tranny? I never test drove one while shopping around several months ago.

And finally:

U, my friend, are a BlackBerry ninja, if you're replying on this forum with quotes, no less. :eek: I get tired using mine to reply to emails. :icon17:

Merry Christmas to you and everyone else as well! :xmasgrin:

On the sideline
 

Just like several other posters on this thread, I am looking at both of these cars for my next vehicle purchase. What a tough choice! The main differentiators / pros and cons for me are: GenCoupe has back seat, better LSD, probably cheaper to insure (any input on this?), no oil overheating issues, probably easier to negotiate price at dealership :confused: BUT has HUGE transmission problems that still don't have an official fix, will definitely have/want to mod it way more that the Z to feel happy with it (right off the bat will have to buy coilovers, wheels, tranny bushings and quick-shifter and possibly swap the engine/tranny mounts) that will make the dealer give me a hard time if I ever need work done under warranty. Lastly... sorry but it is a Hyundai... there is no other car made by this company that I would've ever though about buying and unfortunately the first thought that comes to most people mind when they hear this brand is "cheap"

Now for the 370Z: True sportscar, proven long-time reliability (i plan on keeping whichever car I buy next for a long time - so please chime in if I'm wrong) and plenty of time to work out all the little details since Nissan has extensive experience building sportscars and the fact that this model is based on the 350z. Complete set of features of what I want in a car on the base model + sport package save some minor things easily done aftermarket. And now for the cons: NO BACK SEAT! This could be a deal breaker and the biggest compromise for me... oil temp issue and cheap LSD, lower residual value than the GenCoupe?? (Not sure about that).

Honorable mention: if I can hold off on the purchase for a while, the Toyota/Subaru/scion FT86 would be another option, but a lot is still uncertain about it so we'll see...

One thing is for sure, after writing this post the 370z seems like to better option of the two IMHO. By the way, Im looking at getting either a 2011 3.8 R-Spec (or maybe Track?) or a 2010 Base+SportPkg 370z but If I could afford it, without a doubt the car I would get is a Black 10' NISMO 370z :driving:

LOL!! I was thinking about that too! :bowrofl:

370Z>350ZHR>Genesis3.8>350ZDE>Genesis2.0T


That about sums it up for me, hope you find the info you are looking for.


DAN