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Lemers 02-04-2011 06:22 PM

Top Gear upsets Mexican Ambassador
 
Looks like the BBC has upset Mexico. Read the below article to see how Mexico doesn't like being called lazy. Not sure if I'd want to be called lazy either but Top Gear is supposed to be humorous. Sometimes people should take things with a grain of salt.

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Originally Posted by LONDON (AFP)
LONDON (AFP) – The BBC apologised to the Mexican ambassador to London on Friday for remarks made about him on a top television show -- but defended its jokes about the country as being part of British humour.
Ambassador Eduardo Medina-Mora had written to the BBC earlier in the week about comments made by presenters of the motoring show "Top Gear" describing Mexicans as "lazy", "feckless" and "flatulent".
The BBC said in a statement that the executive producer of the show had "written to the Mexican Ambassador and apologised for the comments made about him during the show."
But it added: "On the broader issue of comments about Mexicans as people, the show has explained they were making comic use of a stereotype; a practice with which regular viewers of Top Gear will be familiar."
In the show, during a discussion about a sports car made by Mexican firm Mastretta, presenter Richard Hammond said vehicles reflected national characteristics.
"Mexican cars are just going to be lazy, feckless, flatulent, overweight, leaning against a fence asleep looking at a cactus with a blanket with a hole in the middle on as a coat," he said.
The presenters then described Mexican food as "sick with cheese on it".
Chief presenter Jeremy Clarkson later said "we won't get any complaints about this because the Mexican ambassador's going to be sitting there with a remote control like this" -- before slumping in his chair and snoring.
The BBC said hundreds of Mexicans had contacted its Spanish-language website BBC Mundo to complain.
Medina-Mora described the remarks as "outrageous, vulgar and inexcusable insults".
But the BBC said that while the comments may have been "rude" there was "no vindictiveness" behind them.
"We are sorry if we have offended some people, but jokes centred on national stereotyping are a part of Top Gear's humour, and indeed a robust part of our national humour," the statement said.
"Our own comedians make jokes about the British being terrible cooks and terrible romantics, and we in turn make jokes about the Italians being disorganised and over dramatic; the French being arrogant and the Germans being over organized."


TreeSemdyZee 02-04-2011 08:27 PM

Oh good grief. :crying:

red6spd 02-04-2011 08:32 PM

Can you hear that????? Its the worlds smallest violin playing just for them.. LOL

370zproject 02-04-2011 08:47 PM

lmao

N8GTOL 02-04-2011 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by red6spd (Post 927494)
Can you hear that????? Its the worlds smallest violin playing just for them.. LOL

or a Guatemalan mariachi band :stirthepot:

ThoriumHotdog 02-04-2011 11:40 PM

I'm glad the real Top Gear isn't filmed in the US. There would be angry La Raza protests and Clarkson would have been canned on the spot. Hurray for the UK!

red6spd 02-05-2011 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ThoriumHotdog (Post 927722)
I'm glad the real Top Gear isn't filmed in the US. There would be angry La Raza protests and Clarkson would have been canned on the spot. Hurray for the UK!


This is so true, everyone would have been fired, land of the free huh?

Staples 02-05-2011 01:06 AM

God I love that show :happydance:

Lemers 02-05-2011 02:25 AM

The American filter is changing from "for the people" to "for the minorities"

One_Quick_Z 02-05-2011 02:34 AM

Really come on?!?! They make fun of everyone...... this is really dumb.




DAN

Lemers 02-05-2011 02:35 AM

I guess the truth stings even more.

370zproject 02-05-2011 01:14 PM

true lol

nuTinmuch 02-13-2011 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 927836)
The American filter is changing from "for the people" to "for the minorities"

Yeah man, white dudes have it so tough.

wait

frost 02-13-2011 04:15 PM

Why are they watching this show in mexico? There's only like, 5 people in all of mexico who can afford the cars they have :stirthepot:

Anatoray 02-13-2011 04:17 PM

It was the Mexican Ambassador, so I'm guessing he was watching it in London.

Lemers 02-13-2011 04:24 PM

There are laws protecting the rights of women and anyone from a minority. But what law out there specifies a white male for protection?

dad 02-13-2011 04:52 PM

Well, there is a saying," the truth hurts".

dad 02-13-2011 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 939733)
There are laws protecting the rights of women and anyone from a minority. But what law out there specifies a white male for protection?

rep point!:tiphat:

nuTinmuch 02-13-2011 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 939733)
There are laws protecting the rights of women and anyone from a minority. But what law out there specifies a white male for protection?

...you're joking, right?

You have to be. You understand that, originally, only white males could vote in the US? You understand the rights of non-whites in America were not guaranteed at all until subsequent amendments were made? You understand that this is why laws in our country protect women and minorities?

Back on topic though, Top Gear UK -does- make fun of everyone. The thing is, they totally ragged on Mexico to the point of being awkward. It's a clear sensitivity. I mean, I love Top Gear (and I still do) but it was clearly a little "eh."

Lemers 02-13-2011 06:08 PM

I would like to say that a war was fought that killed more Americans then any other war in history and those Soldiers fighting and dying were a vast majority of white people.

And even after slavery was abolished white people in the north continued to have indentured servants. Indentured servants white immigrants like my ancestors that worked in close the slave conditions and each generation built on the values that their parents pasted down.

I don't ever remember being given anything because I was white. But I see a lot of programs that give money and privilege to people because they are from a minority.

nuTinmuch 02-13-2011 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 939827)
I would like to say that a war was fought that killed more Americans then any other war in history and those Soldiers fighting and dying were a vast majority of white people.

And even after slavery was abolished white people in the north continued to have indentured servants. Indentured servants white immigrants like my ancestors that worked in close the slave conditions and each generation built on the values that their parents pasted down.

I don't ever remember being given anything because I was white. But I see a lot of programs that give money and privilege to people because they are from a minority.

Typically when a majority of a race fights a war, the statistics reflect that.

The civil war (and slavery) were also not about race. It was about economics -leading- to slavery, which moved into us vs. them.

This discussion also has nothing to do with the civil war, so I'm sort of baffled as to why you're bringing it up.

It's funny that you bring up privilege though. You don't think you were given anything for being white?

White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack by Peggy McIntosh

Feel free to google "white privilege" -- you might be surprised with what you find.

edit: I understand conversations of this nature are frowned upon here, but I'm willing to carry it on provided it can be kept at that, a conversation. This isn't a dig at anyone, but I think we know conversations like this can get heated.

Lemers 02-13-2011 07:56 PM

This whole "white privilege" is a crutch to give people not to try to advance themselves. I've succeed and have what I have because my parents cared enough to push me through school. Their drive built traits in me tha have kept me advancing in my career. And I will push my kids the sameway.

By you making statements that I have what I have because I'm white takes away from all the hard work my parents did and I did.

nuTinmuch 02-13-2011 10:42 PM

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By you making statements that I have what I have because I'm white takes away from all the hard work my parents did and I did.
Unless you are insecure about what you have, then it shouldn't take anything away. Likewise, having privilege doesn't mean that everything you have is because you are white. That's a strawman. I'm not arguing that. I'm arguing that you've been giving certain advantages in life because of your race and gender.

"White privilege" isn't some sort of made up thing. For what it's worth, there is also black privilege, straight privilege, male privilege and a host of others. It isn't a negative thing to have them.

They just are. You didn't ask for them. Neither did your parents. Having or not having a privilege does not mean you ask for handouts or deny them. It just is. There are certain advantages you have because of who you are. Being born in America (or anywhere else in the western world) could be seen as privilege.

YouTube - Tim Wise: On White Privilege (Clip)

Jordo! 02-13-2011 10:50 PM

Dude, historically, and cross culturally white people have a huge leg up on like everyone else.

That doens't mean you don't have to work hard -- it just means someone of a different background generally has to work substantially harder to get to the same rung.

Really now...

And WTF is "black privilege"? Having a greater likelihood of possessing a big ****?

Seriously, if you are a white male you have so many advantages over everyone else, the only people you should be complaining about competing with are other white males. Gimmie a fvcking break.

Ron 02-13-2011 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 940214)
...
And WTF is "black privilege"? Having a greater likelihood of possessing a big ****?

:icon18: Today's episode of Top Gear was one the best I've seen. And they mentioned Mexico again lol. For those that don't know, you can download them from here: http://www.finalgear.com/shows/topgear/

frost 02-13-2011 11:21 PM

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nuTinmuch 02-13-2011 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 940214)
Dude, historically, and cross culturally white people have a huge leg up on like everyone else.

That doens't mean you don't have to work hard -- it just means someone of a different background generally has to work substantially harder to get to the same rung.

Really now...

And WTF is "black privilege"? Having a greater likelihood of possessing a big ****?

Seriously, if you are a white male you have so many advantages over everyone else, the only people you should be complaining about competing with are other white males. Gimmie a fvcking break.

Yes, exactly that!

Hahaha, no, but it was more to show -everyone- has some advantage, somewhere, although some are way larger than others. I'm not getting into that argument, though. :p

Jordo! 02-14-2011 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by nuTinmuch (Post 940233)
Yes, exactly that!

Hahaha, no, but it was more to show -everyone- has some advantage, somewhere, although some are way larger than others. I'm not getting into that argument, though. :p

A "leg up" vs a "third leg" up :icon18:

370zproject 02-14-2011 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 940225)
:icon18: Today's episode of Top Gear was one the best I've seen. And they mentioned Mexico again lol. For those that don't know, you can download them from here: http://www.finalgear.com/shows/topgear/

:iagree::bowrofl:


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