Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1081284)

Nicotine isn't even listed as a carcinogen. It is "poisonous", but a lethal dose is not coming from regular small doses. Hell, enough alcohol will kill you as well. You can even poison yourself with water, believe it or not. Most of the health risks ARE associated with the additives in cigarettes, which include arsenic and tar.

Caffeine is bad for humans. It can lead to sleep deprivation, hyperactivity, and several stress-related conditions. It can be used to excess as well, and speaking from personal experience, it can have dramatic withdrawal symptoms.

I'm not defending smoking. I just think your attitude against one legal substance while accepting the other rapidly abused and similarly dangerous substances is hypocritical.

But we've veered way off topic. I think we both agree that cigarette smoking is bad for your health, and 4r3s here is doing a great service to himself by quitting.

Originally Posted by tjlazer (Post 1081536)

Comparing water to Nicotine is laughable. Come on! Nicotine is a Poison. Period. A drop of it can kill a horse.
And comparing caffeine to Nicotine is like comparing sugar to Heroine. That's a fact.

Anyway back on track. OP knows what I am talking about as he has been on WhyQuit - the Internet's leading cold turkey quit smoking resource ;) Keep it up man!

Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1081909)

We'll have to agree to disagree. I'm tired of arguing with you. You have your views, I have mine. The bottom line is they cannot ban nicotine for the same reason alcohol prohibition failed, and that's all I was trying to point out.

And yes, water poisoning exists. But you're too busy twisting my words to cede a single point. Never said water is a poison. Never said caffeine is "as bad" as heroin. Just said it's addictive.

Originally Posted by Kirkster (Post 1082086)

Originally Posted by tjlazer (Post 1082225)

LOL. You must be a smoker. I'm done. Do the research it's out there.

Originally Posted by tjlazer (Post 1082577)

Well I agree it's never gonna get banned. It's too much of a cash cow, especially in hard econimic times. :ughdance:

Best people can do is never try it so they can not get hooked on it. It's a nasty habit. I wish everyone the best in luck trying to kick it. It's extremely hard--but it can be done.

Originally Posted by tonybui (Post 1085800)

Congrats OP

I tried to quit too and after a couple days, my gf decided to breakup with me .... I don't think I can quit until I get over this crap !!

You can do it man !!!!

Originally Posted by 4r3s (Post 1086883)

Actually if you go back far enough in this thread you can see basically the same thing happened to me. Use it as an incentive man, quit smoking and upgrade the type of woman you can date! Seriously me being stressed out over my gf breaking up with me was a great way to give me something else to think about other than smoking. Don't get me wrong it freaking sucks but you can do it.

Originally Posted by 4r3s (Post 1094401)

So yesterday I totally forgot to put the patch on. Didn't realize it till midday when I was chewing the hell out of a pen and fidgeting like crazy. Anyway I made it through and I decided not to wear the patch today either and see how it went. So far so good, but I did bring a back up just in case.

Originally Posted by shabarivas (Post 1094415)

You want to know how to quit? Seriously? Here is what I did:

I sat down outside - nice lawn and what not... broke out three packs of the harshest cigs I could take and chain smoked those fuckers till I puked... and then I smoked a couple more till I was nauseated from just breathing... About 1 1/2 packs down in 45-50 minutes and trust me - you will never want another cig ever again. Its been like 4 years since that day - but even today if one of my friends offers me one - I get this terrible gag reflex...

Worked for me and unless you are insanely addicted to it - it should work for you as well..