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SS_Firehawk 12-07-2012 12:00 AM

Updates from GTM. They took a pic of my car on their dyno :)

http://www.the370z.com/members/ss_fi...82-car-gtm.jpg


And a baseline run they share with me. This is with the stock manifold.
http://www.the370z.com/members/ss_fi...seline-std.jpg

LMAO, they wasted no time strapping her down! These results were right when they pulled her off the truck! It's definitely mine. I see some trademarks on the dyno curve. AFR's stayed below 13 except for one spike. It was tuned at 13.2. It''s still gains compared to my last no matter how it's looked at.

If anything, this just solidifies my decision. I'm sure there is a lot left on the table to tune here, as well as the manifold and new spark plugs. But I'm not going to worry about that.

EDIT: Granted one is STD and the other is SAE, but these numbers are eerily close, not only that, look at the curves, same dips, same spikes. These are 9 months apart and on different dynos. Talk about accurate. I also linked all the pictures from my album so people who have photobucket blocked at work can see everything.

http://www.the370z.com/members/ss_fi...2-std-dyno.jpg

NitrousZ34 12-07-2012 11:30 AM

Hey man congrats you deserve it! Thank you for your service :usa:
Cant wait to see the final product! :tup:

SPOHN 12-07-2012 11:39 AM

Lol. Just reading your post it seems you can't hide the excitement. Sort of like a school boy. Lol. I'd be the same way.

Dzel 12-07-2012 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2049775)
Lol. Just reading your post it seems you can't hide the excitement. Sort of like me wanting to kiss a school boy. Lol. I'd be the same way.

FIXED... Your welcome. :tup::bowrofl::roflpuke2:

SS_Firehawk 12-07-2012 12:21 PM

Thanks guys. I'm really trying to find relevant stuff to post for the community as well as build some excitement. When the last guy pulled out of the twin SC project, I was deflated that it didn't culminate to anything. So I started looking all over to see what was my best options were. I literally had trouble finding a way forward. What makes it worse is being out here, I have hours to ponder about what to do. I planned so far out ahead, that it came as a shock that I can do this now. Not only that, but be the first to explore new ground, build some hype around this project, get feedback, really give something back to the community. I learned a lot just reading everyone's experiences. I try to post all my experiments and findings, anything to give back.

There aren't very many members that run LTH's or shorties for that matter. Any info on their performance is worth a lot to a few.

People running LTH's and a HFC/ HFC's I can count on two fingers. Myself and Mike Bonani. But at least there is information on how it performs, and that it's even an option.

There are only a handful of guys running full breather mods and an M370 manifold. What we post gives insight to other members what to expect. There are only a couple tuned results on this as well.

We now know what a franken-exhaust sounds like that was pieced together by three different companies. It tames the rasp from the PPE's! And sounds like a liter bike ROFL

EDIT: Removed some stuff, editing with questions.

Tanabe Z40 coilovers. I want to tighten up the stock setup, but I don't want to compromise the ride that most coilovers end up doing. These still use twin tube shocks and have a couple inches of height adjustment without affecting stroke or preload. They are not as aggressive as monotubes, but I think these will give me the improvement and adjustability I'm looking for. Stiffer, but not punishing. Any thoughts/inputs?


Opinions: 19x11 +18 Rear and 19x9.5 +15/ or 19x10.5 +22 fronts (not sure if this will fit)

Link to the rims.

http://www.the370z.com/tires-wheels/...2300-only.html

I want them in GT silver wrapped in some RE-11's. I've always liked them, and finally them make them in big boy sizes.

GaleForce 12-12-2012 04:04 PM

The rears will fit, no problem. That's the same size I'm running. My fronts are 19x9.5 +20 and work very well. I like using this site to see the difference in wheel offsets, Wheel Offset Calculator

SS_Firehawk 12-12-2012 04:17 PM

Thanks Galeforce. I used the calculator using the 19x9.5 I listed. That's what Work used on their 370Z in that picture. The calculator said it would stick out 6mm more and be 20mm deeper in the wheel well. I think it'd fit, but not 100% sure. And what happens if I get coil overs and the car drops an inch?

Those rims sure are sexy though

GaleForce 12-12-2012 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 2057187)
Thanks Galeforce. I used the calculator using the 19x9.5 I listed. That's what Work used on their 370Z in that picture. The calculator said it would stick out 6mm more and be 20mm deeper in the wheel well. I think it'd fit, but not 100% sure. And what happens if I get coil overs and the car drops an inch?

Those rims sure are sexy though

You might run into issues with coil overs. But if you're only dropping an inch you *should* be ok. Worse case, you need to raise the car up a bit, or go with an aggressive alignment up front. Give Eric a call at gettourwheels.com. He's right on the ball with this stuff.

Shamu 12-15-2012 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 2049827)
Thanks guys. I'm really trying to find relevant stuff to post for the community as well as build some excitement. When the last guy pulled out of the twin SC project, I was deflated that it didn't culminate to anything. So I started looking all over to see what was my best options were. I literally had trouble finding a way forward. What makes it worse is being out here, I have hours to ponder about what to do. I planned so far out ahead, that it came as a shock that I can do this now. Not only that, but be the first to explore new ground, build some hype around this project, get feedback, really give something back to the community. I learned a lot just reading everyone's experiences. I try to post all my experiments and findings, anything to give back.

There aren't very many members that run LTH's or shorties for that matter. Any info on their performance is worth a lot to a few.

People running LTH's and a HFC/ HFC's I can count on two fingers. Myself and Mike Bonani. But at least there is information on how it performs, and that it's even an option.

There are only a handful of guys running full breather mods and an M370 manifold. What we post gives insight to other members what to expect. There are only a couple tuned results on this as well.

We now know what a franken-exhaust sounds like that was pieced together by three different companies. It tames the rasp from the PPE's! And sounds like a liter bike ROFL

EDIT: Removed some stuff, editing with questions.

Tanabe Z40 coilovers. I want to tighten up the stock setup, but I don't want to compromise the ride that most coilovers end up doing. These still use twin tube shocks and have a couple inches of height adjustment without affecting stroke or preload. They are not as aggressive as monotubes, but I think these will give me the improvement and adjustability I'm looking for. Stiffer, but not punishing. Any thoughts/inputs?

I suspect you will see better results than most SC builds just from PPEs. I'm sure that's why I get 450 WHP and 350 ft lbs torque from my $5800 Stillen SC kit.

SS_Firehawk 12-16-2012 04:08 AM

Looks like I'll be adding a JWT clutch and flywheel to the process :) Forum member just removed by GTM, so it's a bit convenient giving it back to them to put it on my car. Supposedly has 100 miles on it, no biggie if it proves otherwise as GTM sells JWT replacement stuffs. My Wifey says we don't need kids because she's getting "Can I get" plenty enough from me alone haha.

I hope what you say is true Shamu. My HFC might prove to be a hidden Godsend if it helps with this supposed back pressure needed in the system for the Rotrex superchargers to build power. Again, huge gray area on how it will perform. I'm just gonna ride shotgun and see where it goes. Either way, I'm tired of being disappointed in this numbers game. Not sure what is holding back my NA numbers. Flywheel would only add another 5-6whp. Idk if it's my exhaust, the HFC, I dunno. The twin SC's is my answer. It's my nuclear weapon that was just unleashed on pesky peasants that refused to do what I said. Overkill, but I get what I want lol.


EDIT: Clutch/flywheel, confirmed payment. MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE!!!!!!!!! This is a bit more comforting knowing I have more clamp pressure to hold the torque. Not gonna complain about the flywheel either, should help spin up the SC's.

SPOHN 12-16-2012 07:25 AM

Love reading updates. It's aboutthe only thing on this forum that's really happening right now. :tup:

Can't wait to get my clutch and flywheel on.

sixpax 12-16-2012 03:42 PM

This is the greatest thing to happen since the Model A. Well, maybe not, but damn close. In for updates and look forward to seeing the thing get finished and some dynos done. :tup:

SS_Firehawk 12-21-2012 09:50 PM

Updates should really start coming in after the new year. Sticking with the JWT clutch and flywheel. Should be delivered after christmas. I have my wheels and tires chosen, as well as the coilovers. Saw Motordyne recently released a new set of sway bars. Debating whether I should get those.

Update: 16JAN- GTM still installing new equipment in their facility (new dyno). Haven't started work yet, but should in these next couple of weeks.

Navyboy916 01-26-2013 05:03 PM

I am really interested in the build your doing. I know your deployed right now which is good cause you have plenty of time. Are u just putting the supercharger on any internal mods?

SS_Firehawk 02-01-2013 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Navyboy916 (Post 2132268)
I am really interested in the build your doing. I know your deployed right now which is good cause you have plenty of time. Are u just putting the supercharger on any internal mods?

No internal mods. But everything else is built up to handle the heat and stress. My oil cooler is an AE performance 72 row monster, the clutch and flywheel are being upgraded to JWT, the brakes are getting a Z1 upgrade (rotors, pads, lines, fluid), radiator being replaced by CSF, it already has long tube headers, full CBE, and a new M370 (bought it again haha).

If I for some Ungodly reason desire more power, the kit supports up to 800bhp, I'll have to build the motor and most likely upgrade the fuel system further. The nice thing about the twin SC system is the additional overhead and the packaging.

I also spoke to GTM today, should be getting updates really soon. They just installed the Mustang Dyno and had my car on there... It wasn't impressive lol. Initial numbers are showing 270whp. They haven't emailed me the graph yet, and they are still learning the software as well. Running Windows 8 only makes the learning curve more difficult. Oh and for clarification, car is still the same from when I delivered it, no parts were installed when the dyno was done.


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