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My concern is not for the shooter but for those outside the range. Which is why many ranges do not allow metal targets. If every shot by every shooter was straight-on, it wouldn't be a problem but feces occurs and a ricochet results. I'm not trying to tell anyone they shouldn't shoot metal targets, just be aware of the hazards and proceed accordingly.

My concern is for EVERYONE living....Ranges will disallow steel for 1 reason and 1 reason alone..... there is no way to tell the steel is ar500 or higher in hardness at a glance. someone bringing steel that is not "hard' would pose a risk to others involved.

The shooting of ar500 steel itself is very safe to everyone around. there is no such thing as a ricochet.....it is so hard it destroys the bullet upon impact and after shooting ar500 steel, you can see a distinct line in the ground below the target where those fragments go.

You are assuming that the shot will hit the target at close to 90 degrees. Bullets will ricochet from just about anything if the angle is very oblique. If the angle is shallow enough, bullets will bounce off water.

Im not assuming anything. once upon a time I spent close to $30,000 for 1million fps video and other testing for a big contract regarding defense. Saying shooting steel is dangerous is like saying swimming is dangerous.

I didn't say shooting hard objects (not just steel) is dangerous, I said it can be dangerous. Just as something as dangerous as swimming (or driving, or skydiving, or ...) can be done safely, if precautions are taken, so can shooting hard targets.

Man it must be nice being able to cut your own targets out

*Sitting here with my CA bullet button*

no bullet buttons here!

I've shot at AR500 metal before in a in-door range. We had a group of about 15 people practicing and doing runs. No one was hurt and we did not experience any ricochet.

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 2682572)

Unless you have LOTS of buffer space around your range, I don't think AR500 (or any other hard substance) is a good choice for a target. Chance of ricochet is way too high. Many ranges do not allow metal targets.

Nah. It's very safe. We routinely shoot 1/2 inch AR500 from 50 yards (sometimes less) with .223/5.56 XM193, and pistols from much closer. Eye protection is important however, as sometimes the bullet's jacket will pop back. We hang the gongs at a slight angle. Rarely an issue.

I shoot it I think. A guy just told me it was armour plate at a metal shop. Had a piece only 1/8" thick. With my 10" barrel it barley makes a dent and really no creator, but it did bend the **** out of it. About 40 rounds of my 75g reloads and AE and PMC steel core 62g rounds. Bent the **** out of it but no real dents like I've seen on other metal plates. This is either harder than AR500 or my 10" barrel can't send them out fast enough to cause damage. But hell, even with a 20" barrel, you're still not going to break through this stuff.

The spalling was about 10 feet long and a foot thick on the ground in the snow at about 25 yards and you know that was happening 360 degrees around. Best video I saw was a guy make 3 kevlar bags and put the plate in. After about 5 rounds the bags tore. 5 is better than the rhino liner coating and better than ceramic plates that can't take more then 2-3 rounds in the same location. A front plate is 3 pounds heavier than ceramic but I'd take that over a failed ceramic any day.

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