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xDIEGOx 12-19-2008 01:43 PM

18yr old SRT-4 driver dead (teens will never learn)
 
Connetquot mothers of Jayson Giles and Stan Hartnett share similar grief, pain -- Newsday.com

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The two mothers have never met.

Their sons graduated from Connetquot High School in June, played on the lacrosse team together and died in separate crashes while driving on the same stretch of a Ronkonkoma road.

For one mother, the pain is new and the grief is raw.

"I'm totally heartbroken," Tammy Giles said through heavy sobs Tuesday, a day after her son, Jayson Giles, 18, died while driving north on Ocean Avenue and slammed into a utility pole. "It's every parent's worst nightmare."

For the other mother, months have passed and she's managed to turn tragedy into something positive.

"I go forward and I celebrate Stan's life," said Lynn Hartnett, whose 18-year-old son died in July after crashing into a tree a quarter-mile from Giles' crash. "I can't curl up. I have to go on."

Tammy Giles said she worries about the toll her son's death will have on her other children: Charles, 22; Steven, just 11 months younger than Jayson; and Jennifer, 12, who won't come out of her room.

"We're all devastated," she said. "He was the life of the house. He was always doing crazy, funny things."

Yet those are the memories that will ease the pain, Hartnett said. Offering some advice for the Giles family, Hartnett said: "Stay strong, celebrate life. If I mourn, I feel like he's gone."

It's likely too soon to reach out to Tammy Giles, Hartnett said, but she plans to later. "I wouldn't want to infringe," she said. "I don't know how she's dealing with her grief."

Soon after Stan died, Hartnett got an e-mail from the mother of a teen who also died in a car crash. "I'm not walking next to you," the message said. "I'm walking in your shoes."

They've since become friends, Hartnett said, and her son's buddies have also been supportive. "In fact," she said, "I feel guilty about what I've gained through all of this."

Giles and Hartnett also share questions about how their sons died. Suffolk police said that road is mostly straight and isn't particularly dangerous.

Speed was likely a factor in Jayson Giles' crash, police said.

His mother said a condition for him getting a turbocharged 2004 Dodge Neon was that he always wear a seat belt. Police said he was wearing one when he crashed.

Jayson Giles punched out of work at 12:55 p.m., said Kimberly Fitzgerald, a secretary at Relations Auto and Collision, where he worked as a car cleaner. The crash occurred about five minutes later. "He pulled out of here and it happened," Fitzgerald, 28, said.

Grief counselors will be available for Connetquot High School students and staff this week, principal Joseph Licato said.

The Giles family will accept visitors tomorrow, 2 to 4 p.m. and 7 to 9 p.m. at Maloney Funeral Home in Ronkonkoma, with a funeral service to be held at 10 a.m. Friday, followed by burial at Mount Ararat Cemetery.


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This happened a couple of weeks ago. :shakes head:

Slidefox 12-19-2008 02:00 PM

RIP

This is tragic...

jetnoirZ 12-19-2008 02:01 PM

Dude that really sucks poor kid didnt stand a chance in that crash. I get the thrill and all i went through a stupid phase like that too but hopefully no one was ever hurt with my poor judgement. RIP srt4 dude Keep the racing on the track

drmike 12-19-2008 04:18 PM

Ugh, we were not bullet-proof, we just felt that way. I know for a fact I was a lucky guy many more time than I deserved to be. I made myself look at the grieving family so that I would think about my own family in the future when I get the urge to do 10/10ths on the street.

shumby 12-19-2008 04:21 PM

ya a rolled a 87 sentra with 4 of my friends in it no one was hurt but man why did it take that to open my eyes?

frcefed 12-19-2008 04:27 PM

I don't understand why parents let their children buy fast cars like this. I know they can go fast in any vehicle but srt4's, evo,sti's etc... are just plain crazy for a kid to own.

For sure there are teen's that might be responsible and won't get hurt, but I would say the majority won't. Too much power for too little experience.

SH1T I waited till I was 30years old to buy a crotch rocket cause I thought I wasn't ready till then. I wrote my sunfire off with 3 of my buddies in it and no one got hurt. Very lucky and made me realize a few things.

Sad story especially since it might of been avoidable.

RCZ 12-19-2008 06:24 PM

Accident avoidance and high performance driving courses should be mandatory for all teen drivers. Not only do you learn how to control the car, but you get a feel for the mass and how quickly and easily things can go from bad to worse..

carlo_amacio 12-19-2008 06:30 PM

so how did he crash??

frcefed 12-19-2008 06:44 PM

I don't think it says exactly but for the car to be in that condition he was obviously going way over the speed limit.

18rgcelica73 12-19-2008 07:12 PM

It is hard for me to be sad that he died but the family I do feel for them. Anyone that is going to get a really fast car stock should be required to take a deffensive driving class/car control/racing class so they can learn the limits of that vehicle adn see how dangerous it is.

AK370Z 12-19-2008 08:23 PM

RIP

Judging by the pic, he was def speeding. People do not realize how unsafe and dangerous it is to race or drive irresponsibly on public roads. As someone mentioned, teens should go though more training before getting their drivers licenses.

cow 12-20-2008 04:51 PM

I opened this thread expecting the opportunity for bitter sarcasm.

The story was beyond sad.

R.I.P., kid.

3SeventyZ 12-20-2008 06:40 PM

wow thats sad to see and read..
:shakes head:

carlo_amacio 12-20-2008 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 18rgcelica73 (Post 10495)
It is hard for me to be sad that he died but the family I do feel for them. Anyone that is going to get a really fast car stock should be required to take a deffensive driving class/car control/racing class so they can learn the limits of that vehicle adn see how dangerous it is.

:werd: Im sure the kid knew what he was doing,was inexperienced and paid the price. I Dont feel any pity for him,but i do feel bad for the family though

dutty370Z 12-30-2008 06:25 PM

My kid will be walking or taking the bus till he's 25.

IMWEZL 04-29-2009 04:49 AM

Sad but for the past 6 years this has been almost a monthly occurrence on srtforums.

Inexperienced drivers and inexpensive, fast cars is not a good combo. I've auto crossed my SRT4 for over a year and it is still very challenging.

shabarivas 04-29-2009 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by shumby (Post 10423)
ya a rolled a 87 sentra with 4 of my friends in it no one was hurt but man why did it take that to open my eyes?

Man you have no idea... I rolled my Evo X w/ 2 buddies in it... walked out no scratches... Just thinking about what I would tell their parents and my friends made me so sick... Racing @ the track and cruising the streets will keep you alive...

blue660r01 05-30-2009 11:29 AM

Wonder where in NY this was

frost 05-30-2009 11:45 AM

"speed was likely a factor" no shi-? His car is ripped in half, fuc-king idiot. Glad he only killed himself and not another family driving down the road.

blue660r01 05-30-2009 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by hoogmageT (Post 81046)
Hi Parents,

I want to know, is there any ways to start teaching baby from pregnancy?
Like how we talk to him/her or anything..
Cause i want to make my baby the best..

Thanks
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nogoodname 05-30-2009 08:28 PM

Over here, there's a new awareness program where they have the pic of the drivers driver licence on a poster which is mounted on top of the car, which is on top of a towing truck that drives around all day...........


and oh yea, the driver is dead and the car is totaled.

nizz23sd 05-30-2009 11:01 PM

RIP..
i got out of one just last nov.coming from church..riding my k7 gsxr..35mph on the street when suddenly this lady decided to beat the traffic by doing illegal turn w/out looking and stopped infront of my lane where i was riding..all i remember was tboning the car and ejecting from my bike hitting the top of her car..airborne for a while..took pounding when hit the ground and hit another parked car..she didnt even know what hit her car..broke my left hand in 10 pieces..dislocated my shoulder,bruised my knee,dis my colar,bruised my back..and i was wearing my light apparel gear..my helmet save my head..k7 was totalled...people make wrong judgement sometimes just to get ahead..not thinking of consequences..i hope this tragedy can open some eyes out there...im sad about what happened and greatful at the same time..thanking the lord everyday i wake up that im still here...

One_Quick_Z 05-31-2009 12:56 AM

WOW He must have been doing insane speeds for the car to look like that intown

When will kids learn!


DAN


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