Is there a dealer close to your property? Depending on how far out in the sticks you are, you might want to base your decision partially on whether you can get it serviced locally.

Yes, I think there is everything but Aston/Ferrari and the like, and there might be a Porsche. It's one of the richest concentrations of multimillionaires in the US because of the headquarters for Wal-Mart, JB Hunt, and Tyson.

I just meant you could park it when you weren't doing outdoors stuff. And an old vehicle would be perfect for that, and you wouldn't have to worry about getting it dinged up and dirty. Trade the Z in on something that works better for a DD.

I can't speak for current or the newest, ugliest Grand Cherokee but I can tell you my last Chrysler/Jeep product was garbage and others who had similar models and years concurred.

Make sure you're in your Z when you drive it off the cliff :icon17:

I have rented plenty of Jeeps this past year and I am not overwhelmed by their performance or handling.

Look, not everyone likes shitty little cars that break when you look at them funny, I'm sorry I hurt your feelings.

Now, what kind of Jeep/Chrysler did you have, exactly?

I was pretty impressed with the one I played with on the freeway. Obviously my 370 was faster and handled better, but I could tell the thing was far from boring, even on pavement.

What jeeps have you driven? I have yet to drive one, but 0-60 in under 7 seconds is pretty good for an SUV type I think, and it was pretty flat looking in a decent sweeper.

4runner or land cruiser!

4-runner is definitely a consideration.

Make sure you get the V8. The 6 is underwhelming. Other than that, great vehicle.

They only came in V6 after 2008, didn't they?

yeah if you want a newer year you'd have to go with a lexus since those have v8 but the price tag jumps up quite a bit

I have driven:

Compass
Patriot
Cherokee

All rentals and all 2013 models.

I would imagine they were probably the base powertrain/suspension models with the V6's?

I really need to drive one, as all I have are "paper numbers".

nobody has mentioned jeep wrangler, are those not very popular for some reason?

Good point.

I had an Xterra and LOVED it. Wrangler is more fun, but a horrifically overpriced and poorly built turd on wheels; if you rock crawl it is near unbeatable. I'd take an Xterra over a Jeep GC. Get an off road model and you get a rear locker and kick *** stereo.

This is my current SUV choice:

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4runner trail editions FTMFW!

I'm not hurt at all.
My shitty little car has yet to break down.

I'm of no help to you. I just smelled trollage and thought I'd play along.
You already know what you want, what you like and what you don't like. Why are you asking us? :confused:

I love my 92 blazer... It starts in -40° weather... heats up nice.. and drives well.. :tup:

Nor should you be!

Yes. Scheduled maint and a couple replacements of dampers were pretty much all she needed.

Jeep is the only way to go!!!!!!!!!!

JKU is a wrangler

Well lucky you. I'm tired of paying for repairs and dealing with messed up ****, and I'm still under 3/36. Screw that. My 1980's mustang had more robust brake components (Even if it didn't stop as well, I only needed ONE set of rotors, not 3.), and the transmission in my 2001 Trans Am was a much better component, and NONE of my other cars had power steering pumps that whined like a mofo "from the factory, as normal, per the manufacturer". So, I'm glad your car isn't a shitbox, but mine is, and so is Nissan's customer service, so why in the world would I keep this thing past 3/36? It's junk.

Clapped out and ready to be thrown away as far as I'm concerned. It's reached the stage in its life where it will always have **** going wrong with it and cost you money every time you turn around. You know, the stage at which domestics normally reach in 5-7 years where you finally break down and buy a new one because the repairs > a note. Yeah, it's getting there before it's even out from under 3/36. Really, I cannot express enough disdain for the Nissan brand or the 370Z product, in general. I just want OUT of it before I get too far out from under warranty (31K miles right now) and have to pay hand over fist just to keep it on the road. THe power steering moans and groans like a whore and that's embarrassing enough everyone staring at it when I pull into a parking-lot, or it sounding like a damn supercharger pulling up to a traffic light. I can only imagine what those buggers would charge me to replace it when it finally goes, probably at 37K miles, lol!

I've gotten some good info from this thread, and am considering the 4-runner special edition, now, as well. As well as some validation of my choice of the GJC from everyone who has owned or experienced one.

The newer Grand Cherokees are great cars, but I would definitely not write-off Japanese cars just because of bad experience with arguably the least reliable brands, outside of Suzuki of course. Toyotas/Lexus are especially good. You good get a really nice used Sequoia or 4Runner for the price you mentioned and it would suit your needs very nicely.

Also congrats on the land, I'm jealous. The Ozarks are gorgeous, I go to Greers Ferry Lake in north central Arkansas and I hope to move there in a few years once I graduate college. I'm sure you will enjoy the heck out of it. How far from Shreveport is your land? I just to live in Atlanta, TX and it was like 6 hours from there to Greers Ferry, just curious if it is around the same distance.

:rolleyes: Finally, we get to the whole point of the thread. Another anti-Nissan rant. We get it. You got a lemon and are pissed about it. If I were so fed up with a product, I would not be going on that respective forum soliciting input on the replacement. i would go to the forum of the vehicle I was considering purchasing. Sorry for your experience, maybe you could just move on? Why waste your time on a forum for a car you hate from a company you despise?

Did you ever take it to a different dealer, or are you still absolutely convinced they're flawless and it's the car, which no one else has had the same problems you have, that is the real issue?

truth be told, he is a lonely man, and just needs attention from other males to make himself feel ok... ORRRRRRR Karma just bit him in the butt for being such a douche

Well, the problem is Nissan. They finally admitted the brake issue. They were using a pneumatic wrench to tighten the lug nuts. This car can't withstand such. It warped the rotors. They found this out when their gtr tech attended a conference in Texas. Used a hand powered tool, and all is better. Shitty design.

Powersteering pump whining like a belt driven sc is normal for economy cars, they say. That includes altimas with more curvy sheetmetal.

I post here because I wish someone honest about the platform had clued me in before I bought it, although 5_0 tried, he wasn't near as openly vocal about it as I'm being. Just trying to look out for anyone considering one of these poser sports cars.

Any way I can hurt nissan, I will. I hope my posts and the incidents o have recounted cost sales. **** em.

Well, the problem is Nissan. They finally admitted the brake issue. They were using a pneumatic wrench to tighten the lug nuts. This car can't withstand such. It warped the rotors. They found this out when their gtr tech attended a conference in Texas. Used a hand powered tool, and all is better. Shitty design.

Powersteering pump whining like a belt driven sc is normal for economy cars, they say. That includes altimas with more curvy sheetmetal.

I post here because I wish someone honest about the platform had clued me in before I bought it, although 5_0 tried, he wasn't near as openly vocal about it as I'm being. Just trying to look out for anyone considering one of these poser sports cars.

Any way I can hurt nissan, I will. I hope my posts and the incidents o have recounted cost sales. **** em.

Also, discovered today, the Z is easy to.break into. Just lift the.back end up a touch. The Windows shoot down, and no alarm. It thinks its.being towed. Discovered this today while trying to re hang the.shitty Berk cbe. I pushed up from under the car, and that was the result. Pretty surprised its that easy.

So Nissan was the one using an impact to put on lugs, or the dealer? I've driven several other Z's besides my own, and the power steering doesn't make any abnormal noises.

Really? Every time I've lifted the back up on jackstands or ramps, that has never happened. Not once.

We get it already. You got a lemon and you feel raw about it. Coming onto a Z enthusiast forum bitching about it just seems like a complete waste of time.

:wtf2:

you should complain to nissan directly in my opinion... complaining here probably won't get anything resolved

Yeah, me lifting the back end up a few degrees doing that is wierd. I just know I never roll my Windows down, and both were down when I came back out after walking away in disgust right after doing that. Weird, I agree 100%.

I got my suv advice, got what I came back for. Taking a few parting shots.

The car warped rotors from the factory before the rims were touched by the dealer, so it would seem that the first failure was on Nissan. The other times happened at my dealer. Z1 slotted rotors warped nearly immediately. Nissan factory rotors turned many times, replaced several. Yeah, it cost me $500 out of pocket for the z1 rotors. Fail. New cars should not cost out of pocket for repairs, imo.

Yeah I'm pissed, no I don't care if I piss anyone here off. Just getting my experience out for other potential buyers. I cruised this forum a while before I bought, myself.

I have. They paid for 1/2 the cost of my brake issues. Made me cover the z1 rotors the liar manager at the dealership wanted me to buy then disavowd all knowledge of pushing me to get.

I brought up the ps pump and Nissan tech line said "they all do it".

You sure you didn't have your keys in your pocket and accidentally held down the unlock button?

Agree 100%.

I agree you had a shitty run of things, but in all your blaming of Nissan I've never seen you so much as name the dealer involved, and they are far more responsible for the whole experience than Nissan.

ORR Nissan of Bossier, and ORR Nissan of shreveport. Louisiana. Both dealers GTR techs worked on it and finally fixed it by using hand tools only.

I may have pressed the key. It was on me. That did strike me as very odd, your explanations is much more logical. I'm not THAT big of a bencher at all.

The exhaust issues are 100% Berk. They have been contacted, took my info and credit card data and never sent me ****. Cheap sweatshop exhaust systems. Avoid!!! It didn't even come close to fitting right, and they never sent the modified brackets they alleged to be able to jerry rig. Every hanger on their cbe is angled sharply and has no swell on the end. They just slip out of the brackets. When hot, it grows by about 1/2" due to expansion from heat, and even cold doesn't fit fully in some of the hangers. Very very cheap system. The Nismo on my friends g35 fits so much better. Get what you pay for, o went bargain basement there. My fault on exhaust.

Yeah, if you managed to lift the back of the car enough to make the car think it's being towed you need to go try out for a strongman competition. :rofl2:

Another SUV to take a look at is a newer RAV4. The older ones were complete bitchmobiles, but the new ones move. They put a lot of motor in them.

I wrote that off because of it being unable to accelerate up a hill with three people. However, this was an old one. I'll look at the new one. Thanks!

Yeah, I want a different style vehicle, but my Nissan and Z experience has made it easy to want to dump the car, and the crappy resale has me filed, lol. Offered $16k trade in. Cheap **** I might be stuck in :(

Funny how it was worth $43k last year...

Yeah, I did have a woman run into it, but the damage was rims and body panel and a headlight. I expect $2-3k hit on trade, but the repair looks factory and has a lifetime warranty. $16-20k is all I've managed to get offered.

No resale.
No durability.
Shitty factory and dealer support

Badbadbad buy, people!!!

I just doublechecked. The V6/AWD apparently hits 60 in 6.3 seconds and runs a mid 14. That's going to embarrass a lot of "sports/sporty" cars on the freeway. :rofl2: