That is your opinion, I know it's taking long but look at the bright side. 1000 cars even though maybe not all get damage, but 1000 cars bro that's insane all with in car view. Also I've heard they might all have damage, but only those 170 will get interior damage as well. So idk just a rumor I guess. Also theirs more people leaning on GT5 then F3, their is more threads and responses to this game then Forza and go look at the millions of people on GTplanet.com

Other then Damage Forza does not even compare to Gran Turismo's level of simulation or even graphics and gameplay. Read the Specs and reviews. What you must also remember is Forza 2 was needed for the 360's survival, GT5 was not needed for PS3's. Forza relased twice in less then 4 years Gran Turismo is releasing once in 3 years. Look at the number of cars all with simulated perfection. GT5 imo :tiphat:

Maybe you need to relax, you sound like an upset fanboy.

Preorders are expected in September, words from Polyhony's mouth. There's no release, because they are waiting to announce it at TGS in September. People make three years a big *** deal, chill out and just wait it out a couple of months. We are seeing the game which means it's going to come out. When it does everyone will jump the bandwagon and say it was always good. The only release I heard was on Gamestop.com saying Feb.2, but GT5p was announced at TGS in 2007 and was released a couple of months later in December. I'm going off that.

Official release date is Dec. 22, 2012.

NIICE, finally. and a slim already?!1 oh well, the more the merrier

Just a couple months back one of Polyphony/Sony's reps released a riddle that hinted at the US release for March 2010. I'm going to keep banking on that and if it comes in December(which would kill in the Christmas rush) I'll just be that much happier.

And to the poster who said the PS3 is not a system that's worth it, please tell me how well your XBOX plays Bluray discs...At least you can watch King Kong in HD to your hearts' content. :-P

PS3 slim is $299.99 for Bluray, free online, web browsing, wifi, 120 gb, Dualshock 3 li ion battery, blutooth, and smaller product. Why would anyone buy a 360 at the same price of a PS3? Halo? Gears? Forza? Fable? Viva Pinata? lol

Those games aren't enough to close people. 360 is sitting at 30 million units shipped with a 54% failure rate and a year jump start, while PS3 is at 24 million considering price with a good number of exclusives. With the price drop at even for both consoles, 360's failure rates, and PS3's upcoming exclusives which outnumber 360, Microsoft shot themselves in the foot. Anyway your right though a christmas release would be brilliant. I just started a console war thread lmaoooo, I couldn't help the amazement of some people's opinions.

This article explains PS3 slim's impact on the market.

Sony's Yoshida talks PS3 Slim impact - PlayStation 3 News at GameSpot

can someone tell me what all the racing games are that are coming out this fall/winter ? I don't have a PS3 so guessing this one's not an option... how about for PC and xb360 ? what's the run-down ?

need for speed shift is out sept 15. looks pretty good im getting it

Forza 3 is out oct 27th

then you got blur and dirt 2 but i have no idea about release dates on those really

here is my opinion on both forza3 and gt5 (note i have every gt game ever made and both forza games). they will both be great games and gt5 will probably look better than forza3 but forza3 has better mechanics. i have come to like forza alot more because of one simple fact, the controller. now assuming you aren't using a steering wheel to play either game then forza definatley wins. this is because on an xbox controller you can actually feather the throttle by using the triggers for gas and brake, where as on a ps3 controller all you have is an x and b button and its either press button on don't no half way there. another thing i should say is i feel that forza is much easier to pick up for someone new to the simulator genre, with the racing line and whatnot, plus no stupid driving test you have to do. i would also like to say i have tried the steering wheels on both games (forza2 and gt4) and seem to always go back to the controllers. my xbox steering wheel seemed to be calibrated wrong so i took it back and got another only to have the same problem. the logitech wheel i had for the ps2 worked better than the xbox one but i could always do better using the controller. one other note i would like to add is that gt5 will have nascar in it.

What exclusives does PS3 even have? Final Fantasy? on Xbox! Tekken 6 on XBOX. Metal Gear solid? Xbox getting an original Metal Gear game!

Every important exclusive from the PS2 days is on xbox now minus GT. Xbox has there own version and its done quite well! Xbox did not need Forza to survive at all are serious.

Last numbers to come from Xbox 360 units shipped was from March 09 at 30 million. Last update about PS3 numbers shipped worldwide was from this Month at 24 million. THAT IS A 5 MONTH GAP. The HD format war hurt microsoft. The failure rate really didnt 54% with 100% return rate the service is so fast you get your another console back in 2 weeks.


Taken from GT Planet!
No porsche? :thumbsdown:

Technically you can use R2/L2 for gas/brake if you want digital control. But that being said, I totally agree that the 360 controller rocks the socks off the PS3. THAT being said, I don't use controllers on racing games. Wheel FTW.

I am waiting to see how well the Slim does performance-wise while playing Bluray. I am not in the market for it, seeing as I already have the 80gig backwards compatible unit, but for some reason I don't feel like it will have 100% of the processing power that the big brother does...Maybe I'll be wrong.

And seriously, the XBOX 360 is not a God System. It is needed by an avid gamer just as much as the PS3 and the PC.

That estimate was Xbox last's submit of shipped consoles, I wonder why they refused to submit the same month as Sony did? 54% failure my friend plays a part, shipping new consoles and replacing parts costs a lot when half your systems you sell get sent back :bowrofl:

Of course most exclusives that Sony had are on Xbox, because Xbox can't make any exclusives so all they do is buy into multi-platform games. It is such a pathetic system you get charged to play online those multi-platform games your xbox is holding on to. MGS, FF12, Tekken 6 you can have them all, the sales rates will show they sell better on PS3. PS3 really doesn’t have any exclusives your right on that. Here’s why they don’t just to name a few.

Rating User Score

Resistance 8.6/10 8.7/10
Resistance 2 9.0/10 8.8/10
Killzone2 9.0/10 9.1/10
Little Big Planet 9.0/10 9.2/10
MGS4 "goty" 10/10 9.4/10
MLB 07 the show 8.2/10 8.4/10
MLB 08 the show 8.5/10 8.8/10
MLB 09 the show 9.0/10 8.9/10
Infamous 9.0/10 9.0/10
Uncharted 8.0/10 9.0/10
GT5p 7.5/10 8.0/10
Ratchet and Clank 7.5/10 8.8/10
Ratchet and ClankQB 7.5/10 8.2/10
Warhawk 8.5/10 8.6/10
Socom 6.5/10 7.7/10
Heavenly Sword 8.0/10 8.4/10
Disgea 3 7.5/10 8.6/10
Ridge Racer 7 8.0/10 7.6/10
Ninja Gaiden Sigma 9.0/10 8.6/10
Motor Storm 7.9/10 8.1/10
Motor Storm Pacific 8.0/10 8.6/10

soon to come
God of War 3
Demon's Soul
Heavy Rain
Uncharted 2
Little Big Planet 2
Gran Turismo 5
Final Fantasy 13 versus
Fianl Fantasy 14
MAG
Agent
Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2
Kingdom Hearts 3
Jak and Daxter
Ratchet and Clank CIT

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Porsche is indeed not in GT5, but RUF is in it.

Im talking blockbusters not MLB The Show. Viva Counters Little big planet

Halo counters every shooter there if that doesnt satisfy Gears does. Im talking the exclusives that make people want to buy the system. The blockbusters are multi-platform now. Madden will probably sell more on Xbox its the sports console.

As for online and playing many will tell you that they would rather play for a more stable online experience over laggy. Just check Tekken Zaibatsu Many people bought the PS3 initially for Tekken I am a tekken fan but I have no reason to go over to PS3 as I can get it for my Xbox. If you look around that forum you will see that many say they will get it for both systems or just xbox for the more stable online play.

Free doesnt always equal better. These kinda of debats pop up all the time when talking about the Z versus cayman. GT-R versus 911 is the price worth it to me it is.