Release date is still Nov.24, Pre-orders I think are still available.. You can try amazon or gamestop.. Walmart should have it ready on wednesday the 24th at midnight and a midnight release at gamestop

Wasn't what I was asking but good info anyway.

For show

GT5 woot woot!

Sounds like fun! If I get a chance to play, I'll see what I can do.
Should shoot for 1:19.7, as that was the Stig's time...

nice...im in

GT5 is here!!! WARNING SPOILERS if u are not interested in box art and unboxings

Gran Turismo 5 Delivered to Retailers Around the World

http://www.gtplanet.net/gran-turismo...ideo-pictures/

I wish I lived in Europe. You get a lot more stuff with the signature edition than the collector's edition here.

Do you know if GT5 will require to use the latest PS3 firmware ? I dont care about the PSN, but I would like to keep the "Install OS" option, so I dont want to flash the PS3.

A lot of people are speculating that the reason for the delay was to make the game require the current firmware because of the recent hack that came out. I can let you know if its going to ask me to update my ps3 when I get it though.

You won't be able to play GT5 with that firmware.

Oh ya...forgot that other OS was in 3.14...that's way old
Even if the reason for the delay was NOT to require higher firmware. I'm sure the firmware on GT5 would at least be 3.41

Yep, I read that the sole reason for the latest delay was so that the game discs could be made with v. 3.50.

I'm not sure about this but you might be able to play it with firmware 3.14 since you don't care about playing online.
There's a payload for the Jailbreak that spoofs firmware 3.50.
Might be worth looking into. I'm not entirely sure though.