I've received only 4 speeding tickets in my 40+ years of driving. None below 9 mph over the limit. There are supposed to be several small towns in the area that will ticket you for 2-3 miles over but I don't personally know anyone that has been bit for such a minor infraction. In my experience, your 8-10/4-5 seems about right. I've been pulled over twice and told it was for going 3-4 miles over the limit but no ticket was issued so I'm assuming they just wanted to check me out. I usually set the cruise at 7-8 over. When my Dad is in the car, I set it a 3-4 over because he'll point it out if I go faster. :)

Edit: I found out that I do know someone that got a ticket for 3 mph over the limit. A friend of mine got that ticket in Minden, LA.

I have no quota for tickets. Lots of things can determine if we will ticket more people or not. Largely due to who the supervisors are.

Good overall numbers can sometimes lead to a better position than a beat cop.

I personally don't give out many tickets. Only tickets I would give are things like expired plates and no city sticker. This is because people have that responsiblity to have there documents updated. Just like most cops, I wouldn't give out a citation unless you were a total *** or just plain deserve it. If you were an *** then I would hit you up for as many tickets as possible. I have even let people go for acting up and saying sorry for it.

sometimes cops pull people over for the smallest things because it might lead to finding a gun that was used in a murder. We just never know what we will get everytime we pull someone over.

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Possibly a dumb question but....

When you see a speed limit sign, where does that speed limit come into play? Immediately at the sign, or as soon as you can see it?

I've also always wondered about left turn on red, onto a one way street. What's the deal with that?

Do "Zs" attract more attention?
 

As a PR guy, I think you've taken an interesting rout to engage your "stakeholders" and, possibly, deliver a few key messages of your own. Reaching out is a good thing.

Having said that, I've never had any issues with our uniformed brothers/sisters. But I am curious as to whether driving the type of car I do attracts a bit more attention than others.

The police are humans too. If you see a nice car, what would you do? Look at it right? We do the same thing.

I mean, if you drive a car that attracts people in general, don't expect the police to just ignore you. They may look and go on with there day or if there is probable cause to pull you over then you might get pulled over depending on the severity of the probable cause.

Who do you work for?

Who do I work for or the OP?

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Just want to throw my 2 cents in here: I'm absolutely tired of people saying "fck the cops". Although I wear a military uniform instead, I see them as my brothers and I respect them performing a public service that is a thankless job.

Just wanted to say, thanks for what you guys do, and keep up the good work.

The OP.

I ask only because I have engaged with officers that believe they are the law (or above the law) and then those that believe they work for the people. I meet the latter far more often than the former and highly respect them for the job they do. :)

I agree with this. There are exceptions to the rule but more often than not police do the job because they want to serve the community.

For the most part, my encounters with LEOs have gone very well. With but a few exceptions, the officer was polite, efficient, and helpful. I've run into a few bad cops (usually county, for some reason), but you find that in any profession or large group of ppl. I'm glad you guys are there. Can't say I was glad to get the tickets but I was speeding. ;)

In most jobs, if you don't do something right it's not that big of a deal. You might make life inconvenient for a few ppl but nobody is going to jail or getting shot. When you have the power that LEOs have, it can be a big problem. The bar for LEOs has to be set very high. Just as a few poor drivers reflect badly on the sports car community, so too do the few bad cops affect how the public views LEOs in general.

The main thing about cops that I don't like is the prevalent attitude that exercising one's rights means you're hiding something. No, I'm not hiding anything. I just don't see any need to give up my rights merely because you are curious. If you have reasonable cause to search my car then, by all means, do so - you don't need my permission.


Now for something completely different. What's with "Do you have any illegal guns, drugs, ... in your car?" Has anybody ever answered "Yes" to that question?

People will answer yes to those questions. Some will answer no. I am not joking either.

Why do the police always ask "Do you know why I pulled you over?".

Looking for admission of guilt, probably.

^This.

But my unequivically ridiculous imagination runs wild. I think of having a good laugh after telling the cop, "Because of my devilishly handsome looks"...then I get a ticket anyway :icon17:

1) What position do you have for people who legally carry a handgun in their car? Good idea, risky? Should that fall under conceal carry, since I doubt anyone should leave a gun in an unattended car? Are there better alternatives for personal safety? My personal opinion is that a gun is a situation escalator, not a situation diffuser.

2) When I see a cop in a car either while driving, stopped at a stoplight, or just sitting along the road, should I wave? I know cops are people, too, and I want to be friendly and supportive, but I also don't want to draw unnecessary attention to myself (not that I'm doing anything bad) nor want to have a wave be mistaken for a more rude gesture or plea for attention/help. (Yeah, I'm in introvert!)

3) Thank you for keeping us safe. :) Law enforcement is too often heralded as an annoyance, but it's the rules and keeping people in them that backbones our culture and morals.

My buddy wants to be a police officer, he just graduated college with degree in criminal justice, any tips for him to get his start in the field?

:icon17: As long as you're not here in Fargo during the "Bar Closing Hours". Cops are like Pumas (yes, the large, vicious cat): Just looking at them while you pass by prompts them to turn around and at the least ask you, "How's everything tonight? You headed home?"

Can't really blame them though. The drunk driving fatalities here in Fargo are rare because our cops OWN the night. Personally, I just go about my business. Small-town North Dakota is different though. Cops/sheriffs out in the south/southwest will wave and honk and smile all the time. :tup:

That is a technique to see the kind of reaction the person gives. Sometimes they will throw grenades or weapons of mass destruction in there as well. A normal person with nothing to hide will generally laugh a little or give a smart remark. Someone with something to hide will be dead serious and answer no or repeat the question.

Its not full proof but it is a good technique.

Ah. Makes sense. Thanks. Yeah, the two times I've been asked, I couldn't help but laugh - it was still funny the second time.

Sorry but you're incorrect here. If it is a Traffic violation you have the right to face your accuser in front of a judge before you pay any type of fine. Of course California wants you to pay and shut up and take your point. Paying the ticket is NOT mandatory and IS an admission of guilt if you pay.

That hasn't been my experience at all. I regularly fight my tickets and court clerks WILL NOT schedule you a court date before you pay your fine. If you win your case the money is then mailed back to you in the form of a check. Ofcourse that check comes roughly 8-10 months after you win because our system is just that efficient.

I've contested the notion of paying my ticket first on several occasions. All of which ending in - pay and see a judge OR don't pay and be delinquent.

So in this case, sir, you are wrong. As far as LA county is concerned anyway, it might be different up north.

Actually he's right, my last ticket (speeding) I HAD to pay the fine upfront prior to my court date, it was Mandatory. However the judge dismissed my charges because the officer didn't show :tup: approx. 2 months after the trial I received a refund check :shakes head:

Edit: I'm in Orange County, so maybe different laws where you're at.

2 months!? I still haven't received my check from beating a speeding ticket last february. They keep saying any day now :shakes head:

This MUST be a Orange county thing then (which is fucked up) but i have gotten tickets by CHP and they also give you a court date. One is from CHP and the other is city both dont impose a fine.

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^that is for your arraignment, sir. You can waive the arraignment hearing - it does nothing for you. What you CAN use the arraignment hearing for, however, is to establish your right to traffic school BEFORE you plead not guilty.

Once you plead "not guilty" then you are required to pay the bail amount first, which is your traffic fine, before a judge will actually see for your trial. I suppose this could be where the break down in communication is. What zbrah and I are talking about is the actual trial hearing, not the arraignment hearing - which are two different things.

The point of the arraignment court is to quickly process everyone who wants to plead guilty so they can pay their fine and attend traffic school. They will not hear your case if you wish to plead not guilty. What they'll do in that instance is give you a separate court date to make your case - essentially wasting about 3 hours of your time.

A U.S. suprime court set a federal law on ticket quotas. It is up to the officer to cite you or not.

Good question,
I am always on my toes. LEOS dont have the safest job in the world. When Im working im always scanning for violations. There is not set distance. But when I'm around people I try to keep a reactionary gap of 4-6 feet when Im dealing with people.

Diffrent Law Enforcement agencies have diffrent policys, My agencie had a very liberal policy, check with your local agency and ask what the persuit policy is also it depends on the charges, I.E. if the person just walked into a store and shot lets say 5 people then there is a very good chance he will do it again. Police will persue no matter what speeds are. When im running radar I normally dont even look at a car unless they are doing 15MPH over the limit, I might stop you but more then likely not give you a ticket, some people just need a wake up call to be more aware of there speed.

Line of sight, if I can see your car the radar will pick you up.

Speed limit will change as soon as you pass the sign. I dont get your second question.

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Yes, dont know why but yes they have, and BC of that I have cut them a brake one time it was for a little bit of weed. I put it in as found property so it could be destroid. Honesty goes along way with me.

Those are rookies... lol I always introduce my self and explain why I stopped you. I.E. you ran a stop sign.

actually the second ticket for the stop sign I pled not guilty hoping that the police officer wouldn't show up. they then scheduled my court date for another 2 months out. two months later I show up for court and as they're getting prepared for trials video of me going through the stop sign comes up on the screen. they gave us one more option to plead guilty or no contest before the judge came out. So since the cop was there with the video of me going through the stop sign I ended up pleading no contest then that is when they fined me $240

unfortunately I'm quite the veteran when it comes to the traffic court system here in Sacramento. The several times over the years that I've pled not guilty I've never had to pay a fine before going in front of a judge.

Here in Michigan (well at least in my city) you are allowed to turn left on red when turning onto a one way street.

I wish all poeple who are able to carry would carry. Guns are safe people hurt people. Always follow your local laws on gun carry. And a weapon should only be pulled and used if it is a life or death situation. I could go into this for ever but trying to keep it short and simple. 2nd amendment is for good.:tup:

Wave or stop and say hello if you want to, we are people too. I ahve people wave and stop me to say hi all the time, Its kinda nice to get that some times from people. And your welcome.

He has a degree thats a good thing. Its probly one of the hardest jobs to get. Just tell him not to give up he will get it. It took my 3 years of trying before I got in.



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Really? Tell this to a Texas State Trooper aka Highway Road Rapers. They will cite you for having rocks stuck in your tire treads. You sir, are quite nice. Rep for you!!

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Then it seems we're both right in our respective areas of the state. :tup:

sucks that they make you pay up front there though...that is not right at all.

I agree with you, In TN I set a court date and you can show up or pay it out of court.

Its against the law in the state of TN to have a quota. Many of my friends ask me if I have a quota. When I tell them no, they think im lying to them lol. Some departments have performance standards, which will compare one officers numbers to the shift average.

Im not a big speeding ticket writer unless I feel you are putting public safety at a risk. If youre hauling through a school zone or residential area, Ill probably give you a ticket. If you dont have insurance, you will be getting a ticket. If you run a stop sign (blatantly run it, not a slow rolling stop) or a red light, you will be getting a ticket. Anything that I feel can put others at risk. I will also give tickets for state registration. However, a slow rolling stop at a stop sign, lights (tail light, brake light, headlights), window tint, speeding on the interstate (as long as its not 100 mph lol), slight speeding on city streets (10-15 mph depending on conditions), etc, I usually do not give tickets for. Unless youre an a-hole of course lol.

Most of my traffic stops are to check for warrants, drugs, weapons, DUI, etc.

My department only pursues for a violent fleeing felon. Even for most of those, our supervisors break it off.

Given that, some officers still do it lol. They will chase off the radio. If you wreck out, the officer will turn his lights off and haul *** the opposite direction lol. We had one guy that chased a guy on a motorcycle for speeding and somehow ended up running over the motorcycle in the back yard of someones residence lol. I have no idea how that happened lol....

That is just the typical thing to say. There really isnt a specific reason most officers say that. I usually say "Hey how are you doing? The reason im stopping you is...." If you say "Do you know why I pulled you over?" that gives people the oppurtunity to say "Because im black", "Because you think im hot", and whatever other crazy stuff people can conjure up.

I would make the assumption that you are asked this when you are pulled over is to incriminate yourself. Most cops will write a small note on the back of the ticket about the stop just in case they end up going to court. When I got a recent speeding ticket the CHP asked if i knew how fast I was going? Again being a veteran here, I said "No i was going with traffic." He then proceeded to tell me I was going 85. he then asked me on 2 separate occasions if I was running late? And both times i said "No", just heading to the office. This would be an example of trying to get me to incriminate myself.

In the past when you would go to your initial court date they would ask how you plead and you could either plead; not guilty, guilty with an explanation, no contest or guilty. If you pled one of the last 2 you were sentenced (or fined) right then and sent on your way. if you Pled to the others they would send you back with an assistant DA and they would negotiate with you unless the cop noted the ticket then they would use that against you and get you to accept their deal. Maybe its budget cuts or what have you but they no longer do that. You plead not guilty they set you a court date and you are on your way.

Is there more leeway when it comes to speed in the carpool lane? When it's not too busy I constantly find myself and others going 80-90mph in the carpool lane compared to 60-70mph main traffic. And yet I don't think I've ever seen anyone pulled over from the carpool lane.

I got pulled over for speeding/excessive lane change and he said "you should have just drove in the carpool lane it would have just been a fine."

Man this thread is so fckin boss! Im sayin if I had to recount all the times cops pulled me, I mean just the other day. They literally try to find something on your car to bust u on when there is literally nothing! I just sit back and laugh, a trooper I took off on the other day later told me "I had no chance of catching u". Slow vics :rofl2:

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Wonka please verify this is your patrol car :icon17:
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