Who REALLY KNOWS about diamonds
 

So... The retard brother is going to marry the retard gf.

He wants to spend $30-40k JUST on the diamond.


Now, we got the 4C's or whatever, but lets not BS each other, a NORMAL person doesn't REALLY know what they're looking at. (I DO know that you're supposed to buy the diamond NOT in a ring.)

He WILL be buying a certified diamond, but is it easy to fake a cert? Do you NEED to take a scale with you? Do you need to take a diamond tester?

And he's either buying it from one of these brokers that comes to you and meets you up with 50 stones or a shop in Downtown where we have a family friend...



ANY help would be awesome and greatly appreciated!




Thanks again!
Andrew

Visit this website and go there, if your brother has 40K on just a diamond, this is where you should go, they will educate you on what to look for and help you find the best for your money. Their office is in downtown Long Beach. I used to work there few years back. Ask for Mark Schneider himself, a very good honest man, he is the owner and he will take care of your brother.

Engagement Rings and Fine Colored Gemstone Jewelry | Mark Schneider Design

I recommend the legitimate business with store front, especially if it's a family friend.

Is there a particular reason for the budget? Does it just need to be large? Or does he want absolutely flawless characteristics? You can get a huge diamond with a lot of flaws for that much or you can get a much more reasonable sized one that is damn near perfect.

Also, the grades are very subjective. While you might look at two diamonds that are the graded identically, depending on the individual grading them, they might be very different in price because one has far more flaws. My experience with this is that the legitimate guys grade a lot tougher, so a gem that at first look appears to be lower quality might actually have fewer and/or smaller flaws than one from a traveling salesman that is graded higher.

wow $30-40K just on the diamond!

is he making an oil rig drill or something with it?

LMAO!!! We ARE Iranian, so you never know

We're with a broker right now and yeah, the headings so far seem retarded... No rhyme or reason behind them.

As for the budget, the guy's a dentist... Now, he COULD go by the 3 months of the salary rule... But I told him that I'd kill him if he did that, and thank god he said that was too much too

Oh, and he's wants 2.5-4 karots I think

:iagree:DEpointfive0 My congrats to your brother for the committment:tup:. I'm sorry I can't provide more input on the diamond particulars, friend. For what it's worth, each time I do business any amount over $1000 with retailers, I conduct a sit-down with the store manager and specialist at the same time. I am a crude, heartless, uncharacteristically aggressive businessman. I just don't like people trying to pull the rape with my money:mad::mad::mad:.

My only recommendation is to grill your salesman and his boss. Even if you are not a diamond expert, be a "BS" expert and make them sweat. That much money for diamonds should have you at the top of their priority list, as opposed to a "next in line" kind of customer.:rolleyes:

I don't know anything about diamonds sorry

30-40k for a rock... hmm.... :wtf2:

A 4 carat princess cut should look huge, and for the budget, you should be able to find one with good color and no noticeable flaws (to the untrained eye). An emerald or asscher cut will cost more (or be smaller) and may not look quite as large because of the chamfered edges, but they will have a much better sparkle due to more facets.

Wow! she’s going have a Z on her finger. That’s amazing.

lol i was thinking should just buy her a Z and a $40 ring

at least you'd have a Z when she leaves you :icon17:

is that like a golf ball sized hail? :tup:

Psychiatric help would be my advice.

IMHO that is frickin' ridiculous. I've got a 1.7 karat ring (it was my grandpa's, my dad's and now mine) on my fat hand and it still looks huge.

A ring that huge is just asking to get rolled.

:pics:

Here's the thing, if you made $500k~ a year, would you ONLY buy a $10-20k ring? (Using the traditional method he'd have to buy her a $125k ring, so thank god he isn't completely retarded)

So far we've narrowed it down to a 2.7 and a 3.11 karot diamond. $33k~

if i made ~$500k a year i'd still buy a $40 ring :icon17:

e: and she wouldn't know i made $500k a year, she'd think i made $50k a year ;)

e2: never mind now that i think about it... it'd be kinda hard to hide your job/salary from someone you're marrying

DE, that sounds about right price wise from when I was buying. I did not get a 2.7/3.11 karot diamond, I got the misses a 1.0 almost flawless and was in just below 10k for the diamond. As you move up to the 1.5 to 2.0 area you start to add 3 or 4 times the price just for a little bump in size. I think at the time a 2.0 was going for just over 20k per the price sheet.

My grandpa paid like $800 for this stone a long time ago.

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/g...ada/null-1.jpg

Makes sense I guess. I'd definitely go far quality as opposed to size when spending that kind of money. I saw a 1.5 karat IF, D color stone about 20 years ago and they were asking $25k at the time. It looked huge because it was so white and literally spotless. Plus it was an emerald cut.

Is CA one of those states where he legally gets the ring back if the whole deal falls apart before the wedding?

LMAO! If God willing that happens, I'll sacrifice my car, my job, my guns, and everything in between to give him the $40-45k back (after the wedding band)

And honestly, I don't know where he'll get married, and he lives in TX if that makes a difference(?)

Yeah, I believe that 3.11 was H/I color cut was great, A flourescent, and 33k, the 2.7 was E/G, no fluorescents or ANYTHING and they wanted $36k~

At the end of the day, he can't do a 1.5 carot stone no matter how nice it is because it's just too small for someone with his job to buy (even if it IS $20k), we WERE looking at an even better 2.4, but it looked a bit too small for his liking.

I'm not sure about the rules in TX. Mario Williams is suing his ex for the ring back at the moment. There are places that consider it a breach of contract. He should have it written into the pre-nup. That's a lot of coin to drop on a rock.

If this is his decision, ok. If that's her opinion and she's going to have a problem with a "too small" diamond he needs to do some serious thinking.

Lol, his decision

Ok, that's better than the alternative.

I guess this must be a first wedding? My first wife was very materialistic and I am very glad to be rid of that one! If the future wife would have a problem with the size of any ring he buys her then she is not the right one to begin with. My second wife of 13 years doesn't even have a ring.

I can't wait for synthetic diamonds to really take over, it will break the price of diamonds worldwide

Again she really isn't the materialistic one, he is. And he wants to show off. Rightly so I guess(?)

It is his money, and he should be able to flaunt it how he wants. I say we stop asking WHY he wants to spend it and focus more on what we can do to make sure he doesn't get screwed...

That's why the ring needs to be mentioned specifically in the pre-nup. If he's making the kind of income that's been hinted at in the this thread, a pre-nup is a requirement.

Agreed. My dad didn't pre-nup. Ugh..... Don't get me started on that.

Thank you, lol

I don't know why everyone is really interested in cost of the stone itself

Honestly, the more you make, the more intense everything becomes.
You make 50k a year, you buy a 370Z, you make 150k a year, you buy a GTR, you make 500k a year, you buy a 458.

I have a LOT of shoes, $100-150 a piece lets say... But since he's making 10X more than me, his sneakers are Jimmy Choos, Feragamos, and Guccis (literally)

Same goes with a house, choice of restaurant, etc.

Then again, a pre nup ONLY helps you keep everything you had BEFORE the marriage. If he opens 5 practices in 5 years after he gets married, she's gonna own half of them no matter what

(But yeah, I guess he'd keep the ring if the shít hit the fan)

To some extent, yes. Spousal support can be pre negotiated. The existing business could be sheltered, but expansion would most likely be community property. He needs a GOOD lawyer to take him through this before the wedding.

:werd: Everything is relative.

My uncle is the retarded one that flies out to England to get custom made suits and shoes and stuff. And he's gotta have 400 ties and like 200 sets of cuff links in every shade of every color imaginable. And my house is 2500 square feet for 4 people, his is 16,000 for 4 people, LOL!!! :roflpuke2: