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Florida_GATOR 07-26-2009 05:14 PM

Im a bit confused...
 
So i was flipping through the channels and saw some people debating a topic. The question that was asked was: "Would you die to save mankind?"
Now i know if you were really faced with this dilemma you might not follow through on your response because nobody wants to die...but my response was yes. One life to save 6 billion seems like a worthy cause. The part that confuses me though was after i saw this i asked some friends and family through myspace, facebook, text and the majority of response was no.... I thought more people would say yes than no. So i posted this seeing what you all thought, and what your response would be.

NewlyIMPORTed 07-26-2009 05:17 PM

idk why one person would do that saved everyone and why this would be an issue but if they made a 1000 foot statue made of gold of me and put it in the heart of washington dc hell ya i would do it haha

MC 07-26-2009 05:21 PM

hell no

frost 07-26-2009 05:22 PM

Mankind needs a serious "housecleaning." I don't consider myself a tree-hugger or a member of PETA, but humans are just trashing the earth and killing everything.

dad 07-26-2009 05:24 PM

Define, mankind?

Florida_GATOR 07-26-2009 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by NewlyIMPORTed (Post 126740)
idk why one person would do that saved everyone and why this would be an issue but if they made a 1000 foot statue made of gold of me and put it in the heart of washington dc hell ya i would do it haha

its a hypothetical question bro, i know in reality one persons death couldnt save the entire world...bu then again it could if they were threatening to blow up the planet with Nukes and someone took them out. But its a conversation starter...not a "real" question.

Florida_GATOR 07-26-2009 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dad (Post 126752)
Define, mankind?

The entire human race.

smurfblu13 07-26-2009 05:26 PM

Well I'll take this approach. Either way your gonna die lol.. So sure why the hell not.

Florida_GATOR 07-26-2009 05:27 PM

:iagree:

dad 07-26-2009 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 126749)
Mankind needs a serious "housecleaning." I don't consider myself a tree-hugger or a member of PETA, but humans are just trashing the earth and killing everything.

Holy ****! That is what I tell the wife! She gets pissed when I say, "A meteor needs to come and give this place a good cleansing! I'll take animals over humans!

dad 07-26-2009 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Florida_GATOR (Post 126754)
The entire human race.

Nope!

frost 07-26-2009 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dad (Post 126763)
Holy ****! That is what I tell the wife! She gets pissed when I say, "A meteor needs to come and give this place a good cleansing! I'll take animals over humans!

I get the same crazy look when I say stuff like that. Glad to find a like mind.

dad 07-26-2009 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 126768)
I get the same crazy look when I say stuff like that. Glad to find a like mind.

Yep, I get that look also. I love that shocked look on a person's face! But I'm just being honest!

cow 07-26-2009 07:19 PM

I would. I'm not important.

frost 07-26-2009 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cow (Post 126883)
I would. I'm not important.

Who really is?

cow 07-26-2009 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 126885)
Who really is?

Very few people are. That's why I don't have a problem with dying.

That whole thing about "growing up & being someone" was a bit of a load of crap.

frost 07-26-2009 07:24 PM

In much the same way your work continues to move along just fine when youre on vacation, the world will still plug along just fine with the absence of any one one individual, no matter how important they may seem.

CBRich 07-26-2009 07:28 PM

Wow. You guys watched too much "The Day the Earth Stood Still." But I agree with SmurfBlu, I'm gone either way so I might as well.

frost 07-26-2009 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CBRich (Post 126903)
Wow. You guys watched too much "The Day the Earth Stood Still." But I agree with SmurfBlu, I'm gone either way so I might as well.

Not sure what that is, but if it agrees with my point, then it's obviously correct :D

cow 07-26-2009 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 126892)
In much the same way your work continues to move along just fine when youre on vacation, the world will still plug along just fine with the absence of any one one individual, no matter how important they may seem.

Agreed completely.

dad 07-26-2009 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cow (Post 126890)
Very few people are. That's why I don't have a problem with dying.

That whole thing about "growing up & being someone" was a bit of a load of crap.

Everyone has a purpose or mission to accomplish. Plus we all have goals! No one is you, your the individual!
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Originally Posted by frost (Post 126892)
In much the same way your work continues to move along just fine when you're on vacation, the world will still plug along just fine with the absence of any one one individual, no matter how important they may seem.

Importance is in yourself, that's all that counts. Your better than the other guy.
You were missed, weather they tell you or not!

Florida_GATOR 07-26-2009 08:58 PM

:iagree:

StLRedrider 07-26-2009 09:22 PM

I'd do it. Single no family of my own, sure.

BanningZ 07-26-2009 10:37 PM

I'd do it.

Like smurfblu13 said, we're all going it just matters how you leave.

XwChriswX 07-26-2009 10:48 PM

Didn't this already happen? Jesus anyone???

(I'm not religous at all... but there is a point in that lol)

rreign 07-27-2009 01:16 PM

I agree with Frost on this one. He couldn't have said it more perfect than "we need a good house cleaning" Let's be real, it's in our nature to destroy ourselves and everything in our paths. We are parasites on this earth and eventually we WILL finally finish the job that we have already started and destroy it. I'm gonna live my life to it's fullest while I can, so screw dying for thousands that are gonna destroy themselves anyway.

awesomez 07-27-2009 02:16 PM

This question is really the same as have you ever loved anybody more than yourself. If you have, there is a good chance that you would die for that person and therefore you'd do it. Don't get me wrong there is a decent amount from the 6 billion that the earth could do without, heck some of you are on this form right now :) but it's very unrealistic and it's not going to happen so it's ok to lie too.

To answer your question, yes, I have loved someone else more then myself.

edeeZee 07-27-2009 05:07 PM

Here's some snippets from one of my favorite books, 48 Laws of Power:

For every famous martyr there are 1000's more who have inspired NEITHER a religion nor a rebellion, so that if martyrdom does sometimes grant a certain power, it does so unpredictably. More important, you will not be around to enjoy that power, such as it is. And there is finally something selfish and arrogant about martyrs, as if they felt their followers were less important than their own glory.

Martyrdom serves no purpose--better to live on in an oppressive world, even to thrive in it. ;)

dad 07-27-2009 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by StLRedrider (Post 127065)
I'd do it. Single no family of my own, sure.

Who will take care of Sawyer and Brass ? They are family!

FricFrac 07-27-2009 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dad (Post 126763)
Holy ****! That is what I tell the wife! She gets pissed when I say, "A meteor needs to come and give this place a good cleansing! I'll take animals over humans!

Nice idea - one human's life saving humanity.... but in reality the only real change we can make is ourselves individually. A meteor isn't going to change human nature....

frost 07-27-2009 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by FricFrac (Post 128146)
Nice idea - one human's life saving humanity.... but in reality the only real change we can make is ourselves individually. A meteor isn't going to change human nature....

No, but a housecleaning to all but a handful of humans would set us back 200,000 years. Give animals a chance to build themselves up again and the earth time to make some repairs.

dad 07-27-2009 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 128163)
No, but a housecleaning to all but a handful of humans would set us back 200,000 years. Give animals a chance to build themselves up again and the earth time to make some repairs.

Precisely.

StLRedrider 07-27-2009 10:33 PM

Your right dad i forgot about my bloodhounds!!!!!!!!!

AARC51 07-27-2009 10:40 PM

Saying and doing are two VERY different things. Actually I would be willing to bet that the percentage of people that say "I don't know" and would actually do it would likely be higher than the percentage of people who say "Yes" and would actually do it.

dad 07-27-2009 10:44 PM

Sacrificial suicide is against the law!

StLRedrider 07-27-2009 10:45 PM

Don't drink the kool aid

sloterg 07-28-2009 11:02 AM

For me its a rather complicated issue that i have thought about since the thought of death came to mind many many years ago. I saw how ppl would put their life on the line for faith, family, or something dear to them and i admired them for it. I think it would be hard to give up ur own life if you dont feel anything else in the world is of equal importance to ur life, thats why I totally agree that if you have loved something more than you love yourself you would understand that if the opportunity came to decide their life lost or urs, more than likely ull choose ur life lost. I get it from ppl all the time that tell me i made a mistake joining the army and that i dont know what im fighting for , etc. but for me it became very simple. I'd rather deploy and suffer physically and see things that would damage me mentally than to have any of my family that i care about see it personally, meaning id rather help keep the fight over there than let it spread to our own backyard. I know im only one person and i alone cant end wars but knowing that im putting in effort towards it is good enough for me. That's why for me the answer is simple, yes i would, in a heartbeat give my life to save the world.

rreign 07-28-2009 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by sloterg (Post 128603)
For me its a rather complicated issue that i have thought about since the thought of death came to mind many many years ago. I saw how ppl would put their life on the line for faith, family, or something dear to them and i admired them for it. I think it would be hard to give up ur own life if you dont feel anything else in the world is of equal importance to ur life, thats why I totally agree that if you have loved something more than you love yourself you would understand that if the opportunity came to decide their life lost or urs, more than likely ull choose ur life lost. I get it from ppl all the time that tell me i made a mistake joining the army and that i dont know what im fighting for , etc. but for me it became very simple. I'd rather deploy and suffer physically and see things that would damage me mentally than to have any of my family that i care about see it personally, meaning id rather help keep the fight over there than let it spread to our own backyard. That's why for me the answer is simple, yes i would, in a heartbeat give my life to save many others.

See, you have to take a step back and analyze this statement. I'm an infantry Marine and have personally "been there, done that" so to speak. This statement has nothing to do with giving you life to save mankind. Rather it's a statement that I have personally made many times. I don't fight for everyone over here in the US or anywhere else for that matter. I fight for only the people that are fighting beside me and to make it back to my family.

So in short, you wouldn't die for mankind either. Just the people that are directly in your life that you care for and love.

sloterg 07-29-2009 10:06 AM

well see its the big picture ur not seeing.. if i have to save mankind to keep the ppl i love alive then ill do it.. i shoulda said that in the begining.. and i understand and i know what u mean about fighting for the ppl beside u cuz i would do the same too i guess its just the way i phrased everything that might have made it unclear


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