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VABAM 11-29-2021 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 4014862)
I don't know anything about the case. But talking with some state troopers years ago. In something like you descripted. Your size matters. You're a little guy with the gun, and he's a big guy charging you. It's easier for you to claim self-defense. Reverse that and it becomes somewhat more muddle. But if he has something in his hand and ready to strike you. It becomes a lot easier.

Texas has some looser laws when it comes to self defense on one’s property and more importantly in one’s house. That’s why I brought up the porch and that it is considered part of the house in Texas law. Legally, Read entered Carruth’s house when he approached Carruth on the porch. When Read flung Carruth off the porch he was basically kicking Carruth out of his house, legally. If you read Texas law Carruth was legal with in the letter of the law. Doesn’t mean I like it and question Carruth motives in this situation. I feel there is more to this that the public doesn’t know but the impression I’m getting is Carruth probably will not get charged and even if he does no jury in that part of Texas will convict him.

redondoaveb 11-29-2021 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by VABAM (Post 4014869)
Texas has some looser laws when it comes to self defense on one’s property and more importantly in one’s house. That’s why I brought up the porch and that it is considered part of the house in Texas law. Legally, Read entered Carruth’s house when he approached Carruth on the porch. When Read flung Carruth off the porch he was basically kicking Carruth out of his house, legally. If you read Texas law Carruth was legal with in the letter of the law. Doesn’t mean I like it and question Carruth motives in this situation. I feel there is more to this that the public doesn’t know but the impression I’m getting is Carruth probably will not get charged and even if he does no jury in that part of Texas will convict him.

I watched the video. I agree with the self defense part of it. The only iffy part is that Carruth didn't turn and shoot in one motion after being thrown off the porch and Read didn't come after him after he threw him. Carruth actually hesitated and took aim before pulling the trigger. But I'm sure I would have done the same thing. Heat of the moment.

VABAM 11-29-2021 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 4014872)
I watched the video. I agree with the self defense part of it. The only iffy part is that Carruth didn't turn and shoot in one motion after being thrown off the porch and Read didn't come after him after he threw him. Carruth actually hesitated and took aim before pulling the trigger. But I'm sure I would have done the same thing. Heat of the moment.

Supposedly Read was taking a step towards Carruth when he shot him. Carruth hesitating, the “warning” shot, him getting a gun when Read wasn’t being violent, them standing casually after the shooting, while legal makes the situation feel slimy.

redondoaveb 11-29-2021 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by VABAM (Post 4014873)
Supposedly Read was taking a step towards Carruth when he shot him. Carruth hesitating, the “warning” shot, him getting a gun when Read wasn’t being violent, them standing casually after the shooting, while legal makes the situation feel slimy.

They were probably 8 to10' apart when Carruth took the shot. I agree, all of what you say is exactly how it played out in the video making it look real slimy.

Hotrodz 11-30-2021 06:30 PM

It was a bad shooting in my opinion. He would have been more justified when he did first bump him. Second firing a warning shot never plays well. It makes him the aggressor. The guy grabs his gun and tosses him but does not continue to pursue him. There is time and opportunity for him to retreat and move away from the threat. He does not!

AZ law states that you can threaten to use deadly force if someone is on your property and will not leave but you cannot use such force until you are fearing for your life. I suspect that will be what this case will hing on!

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ZeeingAround 12-01-2021 09:35 AM

Just ordered a Glock 22 service pistol off of GunBroker. Something to mess with and get a 9mm barrel for it too.
The BF sale shipped. Got the AR500 torso and stand. Now I can compete with the church for ringing bells.

On another note. School shooting across the state from me. 4 day old hand gun in the hands of a 15yr old. sad

VABAM 12-01-2021 10:31 AM

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On another note. School shooting across the state from me. 4 day old hand gun in the hands of a 15yr old. sad

Very sad indeed. Sucks that these kids died but like usual the media started talking about gun control before the bodies were even cold. The same media that is still calling the Christmas Parade attack a “car accident”. :shakes head:

Considering that the gun was 4 days old makes me wonder if the father was a new gun owner. I’m guessing if the kid had access to a gun before then he might have done the shooting sooner. If the father was new to guns then he might have not had proper storage and/or he didn’t realize how troubled his son was. Either way that father must be devastated.

Rusty 12-03-2021 11:37 AM

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Got a new anti cant level for my RPR. :tup:

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Rusty 12-03-2021 11:47 AM

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For Christmas, I told the wifey. Either a Lab Radar or a Primal Rights priming tool. Which one that was in stock. The Lab Radar is out of stock and no back order for now. So she got me the Primal Rights priming tool. :tup:

https://www.primalrights.com/reloading-equipment

Hotrodz 12-03-2021 11:51 AM

Gotta love Chris!

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Rusty 12-03-2021 12:00 PM

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Gotta love Chris!

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For Christmas. We give each other a list with the items we want with links. Takes the guess work and disappointment out of it. The list may have 10 items on it. And I say pick 4 or 5 things off of it to get for me. Everyone is happy now. :tup:

Hotrodz 12-03-2021 12:03 PM

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For Christmas. We give each other a list with the items we want with links. Takes the guess work and disappointment out of it. The list may have 10 items on it. And I say pick 4 or 5 things off of it to get for me. Everyone is happy now. :tup:

That is perfect!

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Rusty 12-03-2021 12:07 PM

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That is perfect!

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I do this with my daughter too. She does this with her BF now. :tup:

Hotrodz 12-03-2021 12:14 PM

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I do this with my daughter too. She does this with her BF now. :tup:

Like you said, it takes the guess work and disappointment out of the equation.

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Rusty 12-03-2021 12:22 PM

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I'm working on my Rem 700 with a Bell & Carson carbon stocked 7mm Rem Mag. It decided to start doing some vertical stringing. So I free floated the barrel. Now I'm going to pillar bed the action. I'm going to use The Score High pillar bedding kit. It's my Christmas present from my daughter. :tup:

Score High Gunsmithing

I'm buying the jigs to drill the stock for the pillars myself since they're a bit pricy. I'll see how this turns out. Then I'll do my 243 BDL.


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