When guns are outlawed, only the outlaws will have guns.

I was looking at getting a pair of tactical type pants, any recommendations? I'd like them to accomodate my IWB holster for a compact 9.

Cliff comes through with another good gun post/quote.

511's seem to be really popular. That company is always coming up with something new. They have soom great gear.

Yeah they came up in my searches. Seem pretty good. I'm not sure whether I should order a larger waist size or not. If the pants are made to accomodate a holster should I get my normal size? :confused:

Hard to say. My wife jokes that I have no hips or a$$, so if I'm wearing a lot of gear on my waist or belt, it tends to pull just a little bit. I usually get the same size as I normally wear and just use the belt to cinch it up.

+rep for the good information. I'll wait til Semtex and a few others chime in with their thoughts too. :tup:

Thanks! I have a pair of 511's that come in handy, but I switched to a thigh rig and don't have that problem on my waist.

Now that I think about it, getting a pair of pants 1 size bigger might be a good idea. You don't want it too tight. At least I don't.

You might also want to look at EOTAC. EOTAC ? Tactical Clothing and Accessories
I can't personally recommend one brand over any other though, because I don't own any tactical pants.

Sort of OT, but interesting anyway.
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13 Things Your Burglar Won't Tell You


1. Of course I look familiar. I was here just last week cleaning your carpets, painting your shutters, or delivering your new refrigerator.

2. Hey, thanks for letting me use the bathroom when I was working in your yard last week. While I was in there, I unlatched the back window to make my return a little easier.

3. Love those flowers. That tells me you have taste ... and taste means there are nice things inside. Those yard toys your kids leave out always make me wonder what type of gaming system they have.

4. Yes, I really do look for newspapers piled up on the driveway. And I might leave a pizza flyer in your front door to see how long it takes you to remove it.

5. If it snows while you're out of town, get a neighbor to create car and foot tracks into the house. Virgin drifts in the driveway are a dead giveaway.

6. If decorative glass is part of your front entrance, don't let your alarm company install the control pad where I can see if it's set. That makes it too easy.

7. A good security company alarms the window over the sink. And the windows on the second floor, which often access the master bedroom-and your jewelry. It's not a bad idea to put motion detectors up there too.

8. It's raining, you're fumbling with your umbrella, and you forget to lock your door-understandable. But understand this: I don't take a day off because of bad weather.

9. I always knock first. If you answer, I'll ask for directions somewhere or offer to clean your gutters. (Don't take me up on it.)

10. Do you really think I won't look in your sock drawer? I always check dresser drawers, the bedside table, and the medicine cabinet.

11. Helpful hint: I almost never go into kids' rooms.

12. You're right: I won't have enough time to break into that safe where you keep your valuables. But if it's not bolted down, I'll take it with me.

13. A loud TV or radio can be a better deterrent than the best alarm system. If you're reluctant to leave your TV on while you're out of town, you can buy a $35 device that works on a timer and simulates the flickering glow of a real television. (Find it at faketv.com..)

8 MORE THINGS A BURGLAR WON'T TELL YOU:

1. Sometimes, I carry a clipboard. Sometimes, I dress like a lawn guy and carry a rake. I do my best to never, ever look like a crook.

2. The two things I hate most: loud dogs and nosy neighbors.

3. I'll break a window to get in, even if it makes a little noise. If your neighbor hears one loud sound, he'll stop what he's doing and wait to hear it again. If he doesn't hear it again, he'll just go back to what he was doing. It's human nature.

4. I'm not complaining, but why would you pay all that money for a fancy alarm system and leave your house without setting it?

5. I love looking in your windows. I'm looking for signs that you're home, and for flat screen TVs or gaming systems I'd like. I'll drive or walk through your neighborhood at night, before you close the blinds, just to pick my targets.

6. Avoid announcing your vacation on your Facebook page. It's easier than you think to look up your address.

7. To you, leaving that window open just a crack during the day is a way to let in a little fresh air. To me, it's an invitation.

8. If you don't answer when I knock, I try the door. Occasionally, I hit the jackpot and walk right in.
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Here's another:

If you injure me or I somehow get injured in the process of breaking and entering, I'll sue the hell out of you.

Mr Badguy. You break into my place & you won't be able to sue.

Bought myself this today (my idea of a pocket pistol).
http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/t...0/P1010339.jpg

very nice man, I like the Kahrs, but they are Waaaaay overpriced.

I had a PM9, nice little pistol but I didn't care for the trigger so I traded it off. How much was it? $500ish?

Excuse the crappy cell phone pics, but she came in on tuesday. Got to hold her, then they took her away from me until I paid off her ransom of $714 :shakes head:.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...1987/002-3.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...1987/001-3.jpg
Along with Magpul front/rear MBUS
http://sgcusa.com/images/Rookie_Reviews_Magpul_MBUS.jpg

Also on the way via UPS are:
YHM light specter handguard which is a little over 9" so it covers the GB
http://www.specopstactical.com/image...631_screws.jpg
and YHM lo-pro GB
http://blackrifleworks.com/images/YHM-9383.jpg

Also a box of these little guys
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...1987/001-2.jpg

I think I've come down with the horrible BRD.....:tup: cause I already have a long list of stuff after i get her like:
Magpul CTR stock and MIAD grip
http://westernsportonline.com/images...rk%20Earth.jpg
Magpul pmags
http://sgcusa.com/images/large/MagPu...ack_Gen2_A.jpg
Magpul AFG
http://www.alliedarmory.com/images/p...s/MPIAG411.jpg
Magpul XTM rail cover
http://www.bowerstactical.com/store/images/MAG410.jpg
....and I'm kinda deciding between an eotech 512 or trijicon 1x42 4.5 MOA reflex 2
http://www.norcalblackriflegear.com/...EOTech_512.jpg
http://www.trijicon.com/whats_new/RX30-23-whatsnew.jpg

thats all for now